What is (or was) the Switch Trick Against Nightcrawler?

FreeToPlay_21FreeToPlay_21 Member Posts: 1,594 ★★★★
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I've heard a lot of people talk about this 'switch trick'. I never bothered looking into it for some reason. What is this trick and how does it work? Is it still viable?

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  • TerraTerra Member Posts: 8,511 ★★★★★
    You did a dash back and if he did the same you dash back and do a light hit and hold block. He used to stay there and hold block and then switched mode. That "bug" has now been fixed.
  • Liss_Bliss_Liss_Bliss_ Member Posts: 1,779 ★★★★★
    Terra said:

    You did a dash back and if he did the same you dash back and do a light hit and hold block. He used to stay there and hold block and then switched mode. That "bug" has now been fixed.

    Terra said:

    You did a dash back and if he did the same you dash back and do a light hit and hold block. He used to stay there and hold block and then switched mode. That "bug" has now been fixed.

    That “bug” has not been fixed. I just managed to do it in a War.
  • ChampioncriticChampioncritic Member Posts: 3,347 ★★★★
    Liss_Bliss_ said:

    Terra said:

    You did a dash back and if he did the same you dash back and do a light hit and hold block. He used to stay there and hold block and then switched mode. That "bug" has now been fixed.

    Terra said:

    You did a dash back and if he did the same you dash back and do a light hit and hold block. He used to stay there and hold block and then switched mode. That "bug" has now been fixed.

    That “bug” has not been fixed. I just managed to do it in a War.
    Its definitely way less likely to happen, so unlikely to happen that you would be better off playing legit than risk trying it.
  • TerraTerra Member Posts: 8,511 ★★★★★
    ^^^
  • NTT6688846993NTT6688846993 Member Posts: 37 ★
    Yea he's not as bateable as before. Digging dorky daves video on how to switch NC like a ninja and i followed that. The very next fight i did. Nc wasnt nothing. And no all of a sudden he seems harder to switch than ever before
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  • iRetr0iRetr0 Member Posts: 1,253 ★★★★
    Liss_Bliss_ said:

    Terra said:

    You did a dash back and if he did the same you dash back and do a light hit and hold block. He used to stay there and hold block and then switched mode. That "bug" has now been fixed.

    Terra said:

    You did a dash back and if he did the same you dash back and do a light hit and hold block. He used to stay there and hold block and then switched mode. That "bug" has now been fixed.

    That “bug” has not been fixed. I just managed to do it in a War.
    It used to work for me so often, doesn't work anymore as often :(
  • Ultra8529Ultra8529 Member Posts: 526 ★★★
    It is a current bug in the same vein as all the other AI issues. He should be reverted to his switch-able self soon with the next update.

    Current AI is glitchy and twitchy and jittery. That is what is causing NC to not be switched anymore.
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★
    Liss_Bliss_ said:

    Terra said:

    You did a dash back and if he did the same you dash back and do a light hit and hold block. He used to stay there and hold block and then switched mode. That "bug" has now been fixed.

    Terra said:

    You did a dash back and if he did the same you dash back and do a light hit and hold block. He used to stay there and hold block and then switched mode. That "bug" has now been fixed.

    That “bug” has not been fixed. I just managed to do it in a War.
    Kabam said they fixed it
  • Liss_Bliss_Liss_Bliss_ Member Posts: 1,779 ★★★★★
    Kobster84 said:

    Liss_Bliss_ said:

    Terra said:

    You did a dash back and if he did the same you dash back and do a light hit and hold block. He used to stay there and hold block and then switched mode. That "bug" has now been fixed.

    Terra said:

    You did a dash back and if he did the same you dash back and do a light hit and hold block. He used to stay there and hold block and then switched mode. That "bug" has now been fixed.

    That “bug” has not been fixed. I just managed to do it in a War.
    Kabam said they fixed it
    Link? Because I did it today.
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  • Liss_Bliss_Liss_Bliss_ Member Posts: 1,779 ★★★★★
    Still not seeing them saying it was unintentional and they fixed it.
  • Liss_Bliss_Liss_Bliss_ Member Posts: 1,779 ★★★★★
    https://youtu.be/RwWL-0wV2HI

    That’s from a duel today. So it does still work. I would have gotten it first try but my thumbs decided to go wonky.
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★
    Liss_Bliss_ said:

    Still not seeing them saying it was unintentional and they fixed it.

    Kabam literally says they wouldnt change it back (it was broken one update)
  • Liss_Bliss_Liss_Bliss_ Member Posts: 1,779 ★★★★★
    Kobster84 said:

    Liss_Bliss_ said:

    Still not seeing them saying it was unintentional and they fixed it.

    Kabam literally says they wouldnt change it back (it was broken one update)
    I literally just did it today @Kobster84 so.......
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★
    Liss_Bliss_ said:

    Kobster84 said:

    Liss_Bliss_ said:

    Still not seeing them saying it was unintentional and they fixed it.

    Kabam literally says they wouldnt change it back (it was broken one update)
    I literally just did it today @Kobster84 so.......
    If you read the thread you’d see that it’s much more irregular now
  • BenQcSlayerBenQcSlayer Member Posts: 867 ★★★
    Why do people want to learn the swith bug trick when switching NightCrawler to swordsman mode is pretty easy.

    When he dashes back and the gray timer icon is running, dash in 4 hit combo and he will switch!
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★
    BenQcSlayer said:

    Why do people want to learn the swith bug trick when switching NightCrawler to swordsman mode is pretty easy.

    When he dashes back and the gray timer icon is running, dash in 4 hit combo and he will switch!

    Yes but he can evade your attacks restarting the timer
  • BenQcSlayerBenQcSlayer Member Posts: 867 ★★★
    Kobster84 said:

    BenQcSlayer said:

    Why do people want to learn the swith bug trick when switching NightCrawler to swordsman mode is pretty easy.

    When he dashes back and the gray timer icon is running, dash in 4 hit combo and he will switch!

    Yes but he can evade your attacks restarting the timer
    When he does, wait untill the opportunity strikes again.... might take 2-3 shot, but he his still easy to switch

  • Liss_Bliss_Liss_Bliss_ Member Posts: 1,779 ★★★★★
    Kobster84 said:

    Liss_Bliss_ said:

    Kobster84 said:

    Liss_Bliss_ said:

    Still not seeing them saying it was unintentional and they fixed it.

    Kabam literally says they wouldnt change it back (it was broken one update)
    I literally just did it today @Kobster84 so.......
    If you read the thread you’d see that it’s much more irregular now
    I’ll chalk this up to a PEBKAC error. I can still swap him every fight, it’s clearly still easy to switch him.
  • belli300belli300 Member Posts: 704 ★★★
    BenQcSlayer said:

    Kobster84 said:

    BenQcSlayer said:

    Why do people want to learn the swith bug trick when switching NightCrawler to swordsman mode is pretty easy.

    When he dashes back and the gray timer icon is running, dash in 4 hit combo and he will switch!

    Yes but he can evade your attacks restarting the timer
    When he does, wait untill the opportunity strikes again.... might take 2-3 shot, but he his still easy to switch

    I respectfully disagree. I’ve had aq/aw fights where I’ve used up the entire timer trying to get him to switch because he would just evade mid combo. There also seems to be a glitch where the timer will disappear when I am still punching into his block.
  • BenQcSlayerBenQcSlayer Member Posts: 867 ★★★
    belli300 said:

    BenQcSlayer said:

    Kobster84 said:

    BenQcSlayer said:

    Why do people want to learn the swith bug trick when switching NightCrawler to swordsman mode is pretty easy.

    When he dashes back and the gray timer icon is running, dash in 4 hit combo and he will switch!

    Yes but he can evade your attacks restarting the timer
    When he does, wait untill the opportunity strikes again.... might take 2-3 shot, but he his still easy to switch

    I respectfully disagree. I’ve had aq/aw fights where I’ve used up the entire timer trying to get him to switch because he would just evade mid combo. There also seems to be a glitch where the timer will disappear when I am still punching into his block.
    Yeah he can be a pain, but the sooner in the fight you can find that oppening, the better for you.

    As the fight goes on, and time passes, he activates his evade buffs and fury buffs, which make him very hard to switch, and with his fury buffs, he makes you pay for your misses.

    Anyway, Even with his evade, the thing with Night Crawler, is that you gotta dance with him... don’t know if I can describe this really, but once you understand how his animation works.... you just move with him.... and can counter attack, with 3 hits combo max... rince and repeat, bait the specials.

    Unless he his on a stun immune node, you can still parry him.

    So that’s my take on Night Crawler, try to switch him before the evade buffs kicks in.
  • BeginthEndBeginthEnd Member Posts: 334 ★
    I thought it was about forcing him to block for a few seconds, simply by dash attack, dash back and mid atk, he should be holding block until you see “swashbuckler” on screen. Useful in many situations.
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