Regarding the recent champion additions.

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You aren't even uncollected yet. You, yourself haven't even reached 5.3 yet. If you say those people have no business commenting, neither do you.

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You aren't even uncollected yet. You, yourself haven't even reached 5.3 yet. If you say those people have no business commenting, neither do you.

Hey! Stop it! You don’t know much about the game!

TomBrady12

I get that not every champ can be god tier but it really sucks that they are totally killing the Mystic class. 3 champs in the last 2 years and 2 are utter garbage.

You aren't even uncollected yet. You, yourself haven't even reached 5.3 yet. If you say those people have no business commenting, neither do you.
Nice try. That is not my main account.

Doubtful. I bet its your only account.

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I get that not every champ can be god tier but it really sucks that they are totally killing the Mystic class. 3 champs in the last 2 years and 2 are utter garbage.

Yeah I agree, and one class has to be the worst. There is actually the potential for a lot of new mystics (Mysterio—iffy, Doom, etc)

Show Act 6 and 5.3 gameplay of HT please. While you are at it, show him in high tier AW and Variant
So your idea of a useable champ is endgame content and Tier 1-3 AW only?

Says more about your unreasonable expectations of what every champ should be than anything else.
A majority of summoners are at that level in the game. Of course it will apply to those areas of the game. Even if people are not at that level yet they will need to use certain champs in order for them progress
Just curious how many summoners are in Tier 1-3? I'd also be interested to know if that number constitutes 51%+ of the player base.

As to Seatin's point about how Ebony Maw is so far behind, I have the opposite opinion. Namor seems incredibly OP. They should've nerfed him, instead of buffed the Maw. There are many things Kabam could do - Say 1 of each "new" champ for the month will be one of the 100+ existing champs that are in dire need of buffs. They could take a deep look at the already insane power creep and tone things back a bit. I do like what they are doing with synergies and encouraging players to have older champs on the roster in some cases. The way that CapIW, Nick Fury and Heimdall help out the team is pretty cool, also. Of course, the goal of any business is to make $$$ and Kabam REAAAAAAALLLLLY wants you to feed the casino-style addiction and spend as much of that money as you can each month so I doubt my points would be considered.
Lol you're not on 5.3 or higher? If you aren't you don't really have a say in this
Why would 5.3 be the measuring stick? Is that where you are others that aren't there are inferior?
5.3 kinda is a measuring stick because it means you have become uncollected and are able to acquire 6* champs and participate in Uncollected EQs. You miss out on a lot of the game's content if you aren't uncollected so you would have less experience.

Doesn't mean people cant have input. If they get these champs they can use them in their current content they are only. Its all subjective.

Bottomline- not every new champ is going to be beyond God tier. Most champs are well rounded and are only good for certain things. Take Cull Obsidian for instance-
Can't use him on defense.
Not good for LoL.
Can't use him on debuff immune nodes.
Takes tons of block damage.
Yet he's on seatins beyond god tier list.

You aren't even uncollected yet. You, yourself haven't even reached 5.3 yet. If you say those people have no business commenting, neither do you.
Nice try. That is not my main account.
Doubtful. I bet its your only account.

Dude send me some sick gameplay of that r4 Phoenix in act 6. That is like the only content that matters, right? That gold 3 ally lookin pretty top tier as well. I assume you’ve done easy path LoL with that IMIW. And— oh my gosh, 174k rating? Insane!

The point is that everyone has a valid opinion, and you can’t tear down others because there’s always someone bigger than you.

You aren't even uncollected yet. You, yourself haven't even reached 5.3 yet. If you say those people have no business commenting, neither do you.
Nice try. That is not my main account.
Doubtful. I bet its your only account.

Not much better. You don't have the expierence to make the comments you are making. Especially towards harder content. You have no idea what that content is even like.

Snizzbar

Show Act 6 and 5.3 gameplay of HT please. While you are at it, show him in high tier AW and Variant
So your idea of a useable champ is endgame content and Tier 1-3 AW only?

Says more about your unreasonable expectations of what every champ should be than anything else.
A majority of summoners are at that level in the game. Of course it will apply to those areas of the game. Even if people are not at that level yet they will need to use certain champs in order for them progress

I don't think you know what majority actually means.

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TomBrady12

I get that not every champ can be god tier but it really sucks that they are totally killing the Mystic class. 3 champs in the last 2 years and 2 are utter garbage.
How do they kill a class when there are still a lot of viable options? Introducing relatively bad champs doesn’t mean that they are killing a class

By adding god tier champs in every other class over the last 2 years. Mystic went from being one of the best to one of the worst classes.

You aren't even uncollected yet. You, yourself haven't even reached 5.3 yet. If you say those people have no business commenting, neither do you.
Nice try. That is not my main account.
Doubtful. I bet its your only account.

Not much better. You don't have the expierence to make the comments you are making. Especially towards harder content. You have no idea what that content is even like.

You aren't even uncollected yet. You, yourself haven't even reached 5.3 yet. If you say those people have no business commenting, neither do you.
Nice try. That is not my main account.
Doubtful. I bet its your only account.

Dude send me some sick gameplay of that r4 Phoenix in act 6. That is like the only content that matters, right? That gold 3 ally lookin pretty top tier as well. I assume you’ve done easy path LoL with that IMIW. And— oh my gosh, 174k rating? Insane!

The point is that everyone has a valid opinion, and you can’t tear down others because there’s always someone bigger than you.
You two are really derailing this post. This is all becoming personal rather than us discussing about these champs that many of you wont rank up yet defend

Dude, a civilized conversation isn’t possible when you mark the other person off immediately when they take their stand.

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If you don’t agree with me, why can’t you just move on?

You aren't even uncollected yet. You, yourself haven't even reached 5.3 yet. If you say those people have no business commenting, neither do you.
Nice try. That is not my main account.
Doubtful. I bet its your only account.

Not much better. You don't have the expierence to make the comments you are making. Especially towards harder content. You have no idea what that content is even like.

You aren't even uncollected yet. You, yourself haven't even reached 5.3 yet. If you say those people have no business commenting, neither do you.
Nice try. That is not my main account.
Doubtful. I bet its your only account.

Dude send me some sick gameplay of that r4 Phoenix in act 6. That is like the only content that matters, right? That gold 3 ally lookin pretty top tier as well. I assume you’ve done easy path LoL with that IMIW. And— oh my gosh, 174k rating? Insane!

The point is that everyone has a valid opinion, and you can’t tear down others because there’s always someone bigger than you.
You two are really derailing this post. This is all becoming personal rather than us discussing about these champs that many of you wont rank up yet defend

Because this post is completely illrelevant. There are good champs and bad champs. You cannot speak to any of their usefulness beyond 5.2 because you haven't made it past that.

Maw can be a good defender.
Invisible Woman isn't even released yet.
Namor is pure offense.
Diablo has some uses. My ally mate pulled him as a 6* and says he's actually pretty fun to play.
Annilihus is a solid champ.

None of them are world beaters and thats fine. That's balance.

Try taking your R4 Pheonix into a tier 1 war. See how well you do.

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But I guess that 5/50 Korg would do way better in t1 war?

You aren't even uncollected yet. You, yourself haven't even reached 5.3 yet. If you say those people have no business commenting, neither do you.
Nice try. That is not my main account.
Doubtful. I bet its your only account.

Not much better. You don't have the expierence to make the comments you are making. Especially towards harder content. You have no idea what that content is even like.

You aren't even uncollected yet. You, yourself haven't even reached 5.3 yet. If you say those people have no business commenting, neither do you.
Nice try. That is not my main account.
Doubtful. I bet its your only account.

Dude send me some sick gameplay of that r4 Phoenix in act 6. That is like the only content that matters, right? That gold 3 ally lookin pretty top tier as well. I assume you’ve done easy path LoL with that IMIW. And— oh my gosh, 174k rating? Insane!

The point is that everyone has a valid opinion, and you can’t tear down others because there’s always someone bigger than you.
You two are really derailing this post. This is all becoming personal rather than us discussing about these champs that many of you wont rank up yet defend
Dude, a civilized conversation isn’t possible when you mark the other person off immediately when they take their stand.
Here we go again. This is how some posts can grow exponentially in pages. If you don't agree with my point why can't you just move on? At this point I want Kabam to shut down this thread

You cant make a post like this and not expect different opinions. You have to take your posts' criticisms when you try to twist things around to make them seem worse than they actually are.

You aren't even uncollected yet. You, yourself haven't even reached 5.3 yet. If you say those people have no business commenting, neither do you.
Nice try. That is not my main account.
Doubtful. I bet its your only account.

Not much better. You don't have the expierence to make the comments you are making. Especially towards harder content. You have no idea what that content is even like.

You aren't even uncollected yet. You, yourself haven't even reached 5.3 yet. If you say those people have no business commenting, neither do you.
Nice try. That is not my main account.
Doubtful. I bet its your only account.

Dude send me some sick gameplay of that r4 Phoenix in act 6. That is like the only content that matters, right? That gold 3 ally lookin pretty top tier as well. I assume you’ve done easy path LoL with that IMIW. And— oh my gosh, 174k rating? Insane!

The point is that everyone has a valid opinion, and you can’t tear down others because there’s always someone bigger than you.
You two are really derailing this post. This is all becoming personal rather than us discussing about these champs that many of you wont rank up yet defend
Because this post is completely illrelevant. There are good champs and bad champs. You cannot speak to any of their usefulness beyond 5.2 because you haven't made it past that.

Maw can be a good defender.
Invisible Woman isn't even released yet.
Namor is pure offense.
Diablo has some uses. My ally mate pulled him as a 6* and says he's actually pretty fun to play.
Annilihus is a solid champ.

None of them are world beaters and thats fine. That's balance.

Try taking your R4 Pheonix into a tier 1 war. See how well you do.
Phoenix is not a war champ but thank you for the suggestion.

She's not a anything champ other than prestige.

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And the whole reason you even thought about this was because of seatin. He’s not god, you know.

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And the whole reason you even thought about this was because of seatin. He’s not god, you know.
Because of seatin? Oh no... these champs have been flawed since their release.

And you and seatin conveniently decided to talk about them at the same time, after their release?

And the whole reason you even thought about this was because of seatin. He’s not god, you know.
Because of seatin? Oh no... these champs have been flawed since their release.

They arent flawed. They aren't what you or the community wants since they can't one shot everything.

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