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Hitting into block being countered by specials. [Merged Threads]
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Issues I came across that seem related:
Aegon vs Modok where Modok dexed out of the middle of my combo 2 hits in (Variant & Arena)
SP2 of all Iron Men not connecting repeatedly because the AI response lets them evade between the 5 chain combo into sp2 - SIM v IM, SIM v Electra, SIM vs IMIW, IM vs SIM, etc (these ones tested specifically in Arena)
Masacre vs multiple champs sp countered (arena + eq)
So this is why while you are hiting a champ while is blocking he can counter with a SA
We need to see the root of the problem.
Maybe a solution for it if you want to be fair with nightcrawler and dont want the people can change it "easy". revert the change of nigthcrawler if you did it and we know because we cant dash back - hit to put in defense the enemy and make a condition to nigthcrawler where he can't be changed in AW or a condition where he start the fight in Neyaphem Mode and cant be changed in defense, so NC could be a great defense and the AI will be the same again without the problem where the enemy can counter you while you are hitting him.
I don't know in what language the game was developed, but you can make the conditions and leave them alone for the champion, so that they don't change the AI or the mechanics of the other characters.
Try it in your beta test game or content creator program (i don't know if it the same for you) and let many players to test it before you release the update on the real server (the game).
Sorry for my english.
Acknowledge the issue. @Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Vydious @Kabam Lyra @Kabam Porthos
Corvus vs quake (uncollected eq 3.1 invade path)
Corvus vs night thrasher (uncollected eq 3.1 invade path)
There are others on this path I can’t remember specifically.
Also numerous cases in ROL in last week normally vs cap marvel and rhino
Corvus vs 5* quake in a duel
All iPhone 7
It’s so erratic, I can go for hours/days of play without it happening and then in ROL I could get it happening 4-5 times on one fight.
Time to sort it out folks, come on.....
iPhone 8+, WiFi, latest updates.
Thanks.
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I think @Tireck20 is on to something regarding the timing of the occurrence and cause. It makes plausible sense. NC has without a doubt had changes to his AI/behavior (switching him is very difficult to accomplish since a while back), and possibly corresponds to this bug appearing across all champions.
Also note these threads.:
1. https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/149855/void-combo-and-quake-combo-versus-imiw-autoblock
@StarNavigator is actually showing the same thing in his videos, but mistakenly thinks it's related to IMIW autoblock. Then he shows another video of fighting IMIW, where simply hitting his block while less than 3 armor ups, and IMIW drops his block multiple times, while @StarNavigator is hitting into his block. The title of the thread is incorrectly labeled, but I immediately recognized it as the same bug we all have reported in this thread. Good video evidence provided. These threads should be merged.
2. Here is another thread that **could** be related(?): https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/147303/nightcrawler-evading-ironman-iw-bug#latest
@Savio444 details NC is evading IMIW repulsor attacks. (oh, how interesting) And another commenter, saying that NC evaded Domino's attack while he was unlucky. Here Ziibit acknowledges and says it'll be passed to dev team.
Summary of potentially related events:
1. NC's behavior changed a couple/few months ago regarding getting him to switch modes while defending. I distinctly remember the start of an AQ week in which he was the mini boss (as he had been rotating in for quite a while), that getting him to switch was nearly impossible. It went from being able to reliably switch him, to it being a rare and lucky chance.
2. Possibly related and occurring at the same time as 1., or after, we began experiencing that hitting into any defenders block has seemingly multiple random outcomes appearing in questing, arena, AQ (and I think AW):
a. They stay blocking (normal, and expected)
b. They drop their block mid our combo, and then based on x condition we see one of these outcomes:
i. we will begin hitting them mid out combo.
ii. If they have power, they can or will launch sp at you while you're mid combo hitting their block.
iii. If they can autoblock/parry, it will be engaged, simply because they are not blocking anymore.
iiii. They simply evade back. (If they are against the wall, they obviously cant, and if they have power, are most likely
to use sp against you.)
3. Another "bug" involving NC is that he is evading under some conditions in which he cannot/should not, as noted by @Savio444 . Not sure when this began occurring.
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This has happened multiple times today, I just don’t have time to document every occurrence. Is this a bug or not? If so, please update the Known Issues thread. If not, close this worthlesss thread and save us the agony of seeing new messages posted only to find more reports of an issue that has plagued the game for months and still no communication from the Company. iPhone 8+, AT&T WiFi, latest updates.
Thanks.
Domino was able to hit me with her special in the middle of my combo which instantly killed me. I had a few boosts active as well.
I know it has been addressed in the forums as something "AI has always been able to do" but somehow, this has never happened to me before v24.0.
I would like to join a long list of players who are begging for a fix to this since THE PLAYERS CAN NEVER DO THIS.
It is really disheartening that we lose resources earned by effort go down the drain due to system bugs.
This just happened to me last week while hitting into IMIWs block with my Corvus Glaive in AQ map 6. He had autoblock and I was hitting into his block to finish the fight and BAM, I get hit with his sp1. PLEASE FIX!
Android 8.0, Asus Mediamate
You can replicate this issue with any fight against a champ that has a dash back and hold ability like Nightcrawler, Xbones, and Hood in any game format. It happens most often where the AI has an aggressive behavior.
You can see that if you hit into the champion’s block after they’ve dashed back to block that the timer is present but then the timer drops mid combo. It’s as if they drop their block for a fraction of a second.
As stated in other posts there is often a different result where the champion either drops their block completely or uses a special.
You can see where this might be an issue when fighting Nightcrawler and Thing because hitting into their block is how you work around their defensive abilities, or at least I think that’s how you guys intended it to work. Hitting into a block is also a great way to back a champion up but this “bug” also makes that difficult.
It isn’t a consistent event but it does happen. I can go through and entire stun immune path in 6.2 and it won’t happen but I can attempt it once in war against a boss and it happens.
iPhone XR
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Arena
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Questing
Happens most often against Nightcrawler and Thing. Has happened against other champs in the contest.
Just right before I started writing this post, i faced the same issue again.
Story quest, act 5.3.2. I was using wasp against Thor Jane Foster. The ability description states that anytime in a model of a combo if was tries to attempt the heavy, a passive stun is applied on the opponent. When i did an m-l-l-heavy chain, Thor did not get stunned. Rather, she activated her special attack.
This is a really frustrating matter when a game we love so much faces issues like these.
I don't understand why a mod or dev can't comment on this thread. It's an easy question to answer: Is this going to stay or are you looking into a fix?
An answer would personally give me some relief, as I could then make a better decision with regard to my in-game purchase decisions moving forward.
Both times I was using Venom the Duck. 1st was during monthly event, War Machine in chapter 1.2 (uncollected). And the 2nd was in AQ map 4 against Loki in the first section left-mid path.