All or Nothing... Or spamming L1

DiabolixideDiabolixide Member Posts: 23 ★
in Bugs and Known Issues
What's up with The Thing spamming L1 on the All or Nothing node in AW?
Not cool, cost me my Vision.

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  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Diabolixide said:

    What's up with The Thing spamming L1 on the All or Nothing node in AW?
    Not cool, cost me my Vision.

    All or nothing nodes with vision has a trick. If you power drain the target when he reaches sp3 then he starts firing off sp1, how it always has been.
  • DiabolixideDiabolixide Member Posts: 23 ★
    I hit him with power drain when he reached L1? So I'm not understanding... And where is that listed about the All or Nothing node? :/
  • DiabolixideDiabolixide Member Posts: 23 ★
    *power burn, rather. In fact, I didn't even build the L1 until he had already used his L1.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    It also happens at lower levels too. It is a function of all or nothing. It never states that it ONLY throws specials at an sp3, it just says it wont throw special until it reaches 3 bars of power. So if you burn him after say 1.5 bars of power down to nothing then he gains another 1.5 bars of power, technically he has gained 3 bars of power and can start throwing specials.
  • DiabolixideDiabolixide Member Posts: 23 ★
    edited August 2019
    @Kabam Miike or other mods, can you provide some clarity here? Maybe some transparency about underlying node relationships?

    *Disregard, mods.
  • DiabolixideDiabolixide Member Posts: 23 ★
    @Lormif.... That's dirty, lmao. Thanks for clearing that up man.
  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,598 ★★★★★
    Lormif said:

    It also happens at lower levels too. It is a function of all or nothing. It never states that it ONLY throws specials at an sp3, it just says it wont throw special until it reaches 3 bars of power. So if you burn him after say 1.5 bars of power down to nothing then he gains another 1.5 bars of power, technically he has gained 3 bars of power and can start throwing specials.

    He said thing used his s1 before vision used any special so it must be a bug
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,104 ★★★★★
    I noticed the same happening once with me. I assume some champions are coded to have higher chance to throw a special attack under a certain criteria. That additional chance to throw a special attack would be kinda like a Taunt mechanic, which then would make it possible for those champions to release a special attack when placed on a All or Nothing node.

    Same thing happens with Thor Ragnarok, when he gets his power gain. I assume Thing was at 15 rock stacks or so when he threw his special attack
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Lvernon15 said:

    Lormif said:

    It also happens at lower levels too. It is a function of all or nothing. It never states that it ONLY throws specials at an sp3, it just says it wont throw special until it reaches 3 bars of power. So if you burn him after say 1.5 bars of power down to nothing then he gains another 1.5 bars of power, technically he has gained 3 bars of power and can start throwing specials.

    He said thing used his s1 before vision used any special so it must be a bug
    he did not, he said he used it when he hit his sp1
  • OrdalcaOrdalca Member Posts: 543 ★★★
    edited August 2019
    I've heard in chats that Thing and Thor Rag have a hidden increased chance to throw specials outside the normal amount: Thing based on his rock stacks, but I don't recall what Thor Rag's was based on.
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