Everyone forgets that Corvus with his evade charge and Prox synergy is a True Strike option. Once an opponent evades, they’ll never evade again.
First off they won’t never evade again.. he has to have charges to keep true strike active. Second..... Everyone forgets?!😂😂😂😂😂 trust me you didn’t remember some little gem. Everyone remembers he gets true strike off proxima synergy with mission completion... it’s a widely known and used mechanic. It also was already mentioned 3-4 times in this thread!😂😂😂😂😂 People always forget Corvus gets true strike😂😂😂 oh oh and don’t forget gwenpool inflicts bleed damage!😂😂😂😂 Any other gems the community always forgets you can enlighten us with?😂😂😂😂
KM is the best anti-evade. Easy to trigger TS and he's not useless like Karnak.
My 6* Karnak disagrees. Good for everything from Evade to Auto-Block. Every L1.
My Corvus with PM further disagrees.
There may be better options, but I don't agree that he's useless. He's quite useful when you need to deal with Evade. That's what I was disagreeing with. Not useless.
Not useless, but not a popular choice. Why choose someone with a mediocre True Strike and low damage when you can choose someone with a long True Strike and high damage? I get that not everyone has high damage true strike people. but still
If you don't have a better option, he does just fine. I don't consider him useless because there are other options in the game. Obviously people will usually choose better options if they have them. Damage output isn't the highest, but if you're trying to deal with stubborn Evade or Auto-Block, he does just fine. There's a tendency to call any Champ that isn't Top Tier useless. They're not necessarily so.
You shouldn't strive for just fine. You should strive for greatness
KM is the best anti-evade. Easy to trigger TS and he's not useless like Karnak.
My 6* Karnak disagrees. Good for everything from Evade to Auto-Block. Every L1.
My Corvus with PM further disagrees.
There may be better options, but I don't agree that he's useless. He's quite useful when you need to deal with Evade. That's what I was disagreeing with. Not useless.
Not useless, but not a popular choice. Why choose someone with a mediocre True Strike and low damage when you can choose someone with a long True Strike and high damage? I get that not everyone has high damage true strike people. but still
If you don't have a better option, he does just fine. I don't consider him useless because there are other options in the game. Obviously people will usually choose better options if they have them. Damage output isn't the highest, but if you're trying to deal with stubborn Evade or Auto-Block, he does just fine. There's a tendency to call any Champ that isn't Top Tier useless. They're not necessarily so.
You shouldn't strive for just fine. You should strive for greatness
If I don't have a high enough Ranked greatness, fine is better than frustration. Lol.
KM is the best anti-evade. Easy to trigger TS and he's not useless like Karnak.
My 6* Karnak disagrees. Good for everything from Evade to Auto-Block. Every L1.
My Corvus with PM further disagrees.
There may be better options, but I don't agree that he's useless. He's quite useful when you need to deal with Evade. That's what I was disagreeing with. Not useless.
Not useless, but not a popular choice. Why choose someone with a mediocre True Strike and low damage when you can choose someone with a long True Strike and high damage? I get that not everyone has high damage true strike people. but still
If you don't have a better option, he does just fine. I don't consider him useless because there are other options in the game. Obviously people will usually choose better options if they have them. Damage output isn't the highest, but if you're trying to deal with stubborn Evade or Auto-Block, he does just fine. There's a tendency to call any Champ that isn't Top Tier useless. They're not necessarily so.
You shouldn't strive for just fine. You should strive for greatness
Declaring some champs great and the rest useless is not striving for greatness. Learning how every champ works and learning how to use them to the best of their capability is striving for greatness.
Great advice is not telling people who's the best champ, and if they don't have that then tough. Great advice is telling people every champ who works, and in what way, no matter how popular the choice is.
I don't see people calling other players great because of what they can do with Corvus. The great ones show us things we didn't think could be done with champions we didn't think it could be done with: unpopular, unobvious, unusual choices.
KM is the best anti-evade. Easy to trigger TS and he's not useless like Karnak.
My 6* Karnak disagrees. Good for everything from Evade to Auto-Block. Every L1.
My Corvus with PM further disagrees.
There may be better options, but I don't agree that he's useless. He's quite useful when you need to deal with Evade. That's what I was disagreeing with. Not useless.
Not useless, but not a popular choice. Why choose someone with a mediocre True Strike and low damage when you can choose someone with a long True Strike and high damage? I get that not everyone has high damage true strike people. but still
If you don't have a better option, he does just fine. I don't consider him useless because there are other options in the game. Obviously people will usually choose better options if they have them. Damage output isn't the highest, but if you're trying to deal with stubborn Evade or Auto-Block, he does just fine. There's a tendency to call any Champ that isn't Top Tier useless. They're not necessarily so.
You shouldn't strive for just fine. You should strive for greatness
Declaring some champs great and the rest useless is not striving for greatness. Learning how every champ works and learning how to use them to the best of their capability is striving for greatness.
Great advice is not telling people who's the best champ, and if they don't have that then tough. Great advice is telling people every champ who works, and in what way, no matter how popular the choice is.
I don't see people calling other players great because of what they can do with Corvus. The great ones show us things we didn't think could be done with champions we didn't think it could be done with: unpopular, unobvious, unusual choices.
Amen. Sometimes you gotta work with the things you have. As this game is still nothing more than spinning a wheel of fortune, you don't always have the best option at hand.
If you've CG and PM, good for you, but no need to look down on people who use something else.
Besides, CG's TS is only given after the fight so moot point if you only need it for one fight.
To get back on-topic: while most evade champions are passive, some like symbiote spidey are buffs that can be nullified, fate sealed or soul entrapped.
And don't forget parry with pacify mastery. Fully maxed gives -30% AAR and thus lower evade chance. This is nice in combination with AAR champions like Blade, Elektra, Black Widow, Taskmaster, Crossbones, Archangel and Void.
KM is the best anti-evade. Easy to trigger TS and he's not useless like Karnak.
My 6* Karnak disagrees. Good for everything from Evade to Auto-Block. Every L1.
My Corvus with PM further disagrees.
There may be better options, but I don't agree that he's useless. He's quite useful when you need to deal with Evade. That's what I was disagreeing with. Not useless.
Not useless, but not a popular choice. Why choose someone with a mediocre True Strike and low damage when you can choose someone with a long True Strike and high damage? I get that not everyone has high damage true strike people. but still
If you don't have a better option, he does just fine. I don't consider him useless because there are other options in the game. Obviously people will usually choose better options if they have them. Damage output isn't the highest, but if you're trying to deal with stubborn Evade or Auto-Block, he does just fine. There's a tendency to call any Champ that isn't Top Tier useless. They're not necessarily so.
You shouldn't strive for just fine. You should strive for greatness
Declaring some champs great and the rest useless is not striving for greatness. Learning how every champ works and learning how to use them to the best of their capability is striving for greatness.
Great advice is not telling people who's the best champ, and if they don't have that then tough. Great advice is telling people every champ who works, and in what way, no matter how popular the choice is.
I don't see people calling other players great because of what they can do with Corvus. The great ones show us things we didn't think could be done with champions we didn't think it could be done with: unpopular, unobvious, unusual choices.
Amen. Sometimes you gotta work with the things you have. As this game is still nothing more than spinning a wheel of fortune, you don't always have the best option at hand.
If you've CG and PM, good for you, but no need to look down on people who use something else.
Besides, CG's TS is only given after the fight so moot point if you only need it for one fight.
Not correct. He gains both the charge and the true strike ability as soon as the mission is competed during the fight you’re in. The other three missions are the ones that you get upon starting the next fight. True strike he gains immediately.
To get back on-topic: while most evade champions are passive, some like symbiote spidey are buffs that can be nullified, fate sealed or soul entrapped.
And don't forget parry with pacify mastery. Fully maxed gives -30% AAR and thus lower evade chance. This is nice in combination with AAR champions like Blade, Elektra, Black Widow, Taskmaster, Crossbones, Archangel and Void.
Pretty sure Symbiote Spidey's Evade buff is a passive now
Something I didn’t remember until I pulled him a few days ago is that Agent Venom cuts all evade chances by 50%. Also, while using his sp1, that rises to a 70% decrease.
Champs that have ability accuracy reduction (AAR) can also prevent evade. Awakened Archangel with enough neuros, massacre and Elektra so long as your opponent has a debuff, awakened voodoo with brother Daniel on your opponent, are just a few examples.. There are probably a lot more here, that's just whom jumps to my head. But any base or defensive AAR helps against evade. Offensive AAR does not.
One that I don't hear mentioned often is Void: one of his intimidating presence debuffs is an agility debuff: -30% evade ability accuracy per debuff. The max you can stack is two, but fear of the void counts as two so once you have that you can theoretically stack this debuff to four, or -120% evade. There is a ramp up of course, and once you have FotV you'll be bouncing between -60% and -120%, but its there.
You're right, I don't know how I forgot about void I've even got him at r5 lol.. Though to be fair he is my newest one.
Thanks for the extra addition! Knew there were going to be some that I missed.
does human torch counter evade champs? i believe at certain temperature (i think 10) his attacks cannot miss, not sure if this also applies for same scenario
To get back on-topic: while most evade champions are passive, some like symbiote spidey are buffs that can be nullified, fate sealed or soul entrapped.
And don't forget parry with pacify mastery. Fully maxed gives -30% AAR and thus lower evade chance. This is nice in combination with AAR champions like Blade, Elektra, Black Widow, Taskmaster, Crossbones, Archangel and Void.
Pretty sure Symbiote Spidey's Evade buff is a passive now
Max level Black widow paired with quake is a great evade counter, not 100% but it's the easiest to deal with cause she just has the ability to shut it down without having to do anything. A lot of other evade counters have to do something to get that ability like using a special or punishing an opponents special
does human torch counter evade champs? i believe at certain temperature (i think 10) his attacks cannot miss, not sure if this also applies for same scenario
I don't have Torch, but I believe when an ability says that an attack cannot miss, they mean literally Miss. "Miss" is an effect in the game; it is what happens when you attack Hood when he is invisible, for example. Miss is not the same thing as Evade. Attacks that cannot miss can be evaded and vice versa.
@TheBestinTuakau what is your roster and we can make suggestions about that rather than theories of best evade counter
Thats my roster right now
Well Venom is the best evade counter as far as Spider-people go, other than that, Dom I guess.
(DOM SQUAD)
Do you have Proxima Midnight? Corvus + PM works. If you haven’t used that generic AG from the SA Calendar, you could pop it on that AA and he can shut down evade with enough Neurotoxins on the opponent. As far as your roster goes, I think that’s about it for evade counters.
Also, what exactly are you looking for a counter for? A specific fight, or just evade in general?
@TheBestinTuakau what is your roster and we can make suggestions about that rather than theories of best evade counter
Thats my roster right now
Well Venom is the best evade counter as far as Spider-people go, other than that, Dom I guess.
(DOM SQUAD)
Do you have Proxima Midnight? Corvus + PM works. If you haven’t used that generic AG from the SA Calendar, you could pop it on that AA and he can shut down evade with enough Neurotoxins on the opponent. As far as your roster goes, I think that’s about it for evade counters.
Also, what exactly are you looking for a counter for? A specific fight, or just evade in general?
Warden out ~
I do have a proxima, but she's 3 star r1. I used my 4* ag on starlord because I didn't have archangel at the time. And I'd prefer an evade counter without needing synergies.
Heimdall has already been brought up, but I just wanna say I love him haha. I usually carry him on my team for true strike and synergies. Can't tell you how many fights I've won because he came in and gave me life again. The armor break/s on SP1 is useful as well.
I used my 4* ag on starlord because I didn't have archangel at the time.
For future reference, if you're at a point in the game where 4* awakening gems are rare or precious, I would save them for a champ that can bail you out of trouble. Many if not most players awaken and rank up the "best" champ, either the best champ on someone's list of best champs, or whatever they think the best champ in their roster is. But sometimes the best thing to do with rare resources is to hold onto them until you can get the most mileage out of them. And when ranking or awakening champs you should think about the ones that can get you past content that is otherwise troublesome for you. It sounds like evade champs are a trouble spot for you.
If Starlord is currently getting you through content that you couldn't get through without a lot of difficulty before, if he's saving you potions or units, or if he's made the impossible possible, then that was a good choice for the 4* AG. If he's just a little more damage than you used to have, that was probably not the optimal choice.
The game puts barriers between you and progress, and the goal is to progressively get past those barriers. Some of those barriers are obvious, like the 5* gate in Act 6. Some are less obvious, like champs you need special skills to get past like MODOK or IMIW. Sometimes certain champs can get you past those barriers: those are the champs you want to invest in.
That's why ultimately no one can tell you what the best thing to rank up or awaken is. What matters is what your current problems are, and what you need to best solve them. That's different for everyone. And sometimes the best thing to do is hold on to your resources and wait for one of those solutions to appear.
I used my 4* ag on starlord because I didn't have archangel at the time.
For future reference, if you're at a point in the game where 4* awakening gems are rare or precious, I would save them for a champ that can bail you out of trouble. Many if not most players awaken and rank up the "best" champ, either the best champ on someone's list of best champs, or whatever they think the best champ in their roster is. But sometimes the best thing to do with rare resources is to hold onto them until you can get the most mileage out of them. And when ranking or awakening champs you should think about the ones that can get you past content that is otherwise troublesome for you. It sounds like evade champs are a trouble spot for you.
If Starlord is currently getting you through content that you couldn't get through without a lot of difficulty before, if he's saving you potions or units, or if he's made the impossible possible, then that was a good choice for the 4* AG. If he's just a little more damage than you used to have, that was probably not the optimal choice.
The game puts barriers between you and progress, and the goal is to progressively get past those barriers. Some of those barriers are obvious, like the 5* gate in Act 6. Some are less obvious, like champs you need special skills to get past like MODOK or IMIW. Sometimes certain champs can get you past those barriers: those are the champs you want to invest in.
That's why ultimately no one can tell you what the best thing to rank up or awaken is. What matters is what your current problems are, and what you need to best solve them. That's different for everyone. And sometimes the best thing to do is hold on to your resources and wait for one of those solutions to appear.
This is possibly the best advice you will ever get for this game.
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Everyone forgets?!😂😂😂😂😂 trust me you didn’t remember some little gem. Everyone remembers he gets true strike off proxima synergy with mission completion... it’s a widely known and used mechanic. It also was already mentioned
3-4 times in this thread!😂😂😂😂😂 People always forget Corvus gets true strike😂😂😂 oh oh and don’t forget gwenpool inflicts bleed damage!😂😂😂😂 Any other gems the community always forgets you can enlighten us with?😂😂😂😂
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Great advice is not telling people who's the best champ, and if they don't have that then tough. Great advice is telling people every champ who works, and in what way, no matter how popular the choice is.
I don't see people calling other players great because of what they can do with Corvus. The great ones show us things we didn't think could be done with champions we didn't think it could be done with: unpopular, unobvious, unusual choices.
If you've CG and PM, good for you, but no need to look down on people who use something else.
Besides, CG's TS is only given after the fight so moot point if you only need it for one fight.
He's been mentioned like 4 times in this conversation already
And don't forget parry with pacify mastery. Fully maxed gives -30% AAR and thus lower evade chance. This is nice in combination with AAR champions like Blade, Elektra, Black Widow, Taskmaster, Crossbones, Archangel and Void.
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Warden out ~
Thanks for the extra addition! Knew there were going to be some that I missed.
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Thats my roster right now
(DOM SQUAD)
Do you have Proxima Midnight? Corvus + PM works. If you haven’t used that generic AG from the SA Calendar, you could pop it on that AA and he can shut down evade with enough Neurotoxins on the opponent. As far as your roster goes, I think that’s about it for evade counters.
Also, what exactly are you looking for a counter for? A specific fight, or just evade in general?
Warden out ~
I used my 4* ag on starlord because I didn't have archangel at the time.
And I'd prefer an evade counter without needing synergies.
I hope that answers all of your questions
If Starlord is currently getting you through content that you couldn't get through without a lot of difficulty before, if he's saving you potions or units, or if he's made the impossible possible, then that was a good choice for the 4* AG. If he's just a little more damage than you used to have, that was probably not the optimal choice.
The game puts barriers between you and progress, and the goal is to progressively get past those barriers. Some of those barriers are obvious, like the 5* gate in Act 6. Some are less obvious, like champs you need special skills to get past like MODOK or IMIW. Sometimes certain champs can get you past those barriers: those are the champs you want to invest in.
That's why ultimately no one can tell you what the best thing to rank up or awaken is. What matters is what your current problems are, and what you need to best solve them. That's different for everyone. And sometimes the best thing to do is hold on to your resources and wait for one of those solutions to appear.
Warden out ~