Upcoming Cull Obsidian and Ebony Maw Balance Changes

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  • Justin2524Justin2524 Member Posts: 1,626 ★★★★
    Kade7175 said:

    To all you people saying that people are just whining that they arent getting their way. Were you on here saying cull had way too much power? Were the whiners on here begging for cull to have more damage? F no. Kabam MARKETED this champ. They SOLD crystals that a lot of us worked hard for money to BUY. I dont care about the tos points people want to make this is horrible business practice. Its deceptive marketing, then they take all the money they can get and within a week of him being in the basic pool they announce hes getting reworked. That is close to fraud if not fraud. And screw the courts, the public courts will be the one to shut this company down. News is hurting for hard hitting content. Enough people make some noise and let the court of people decide. Im sure the news would love to warn future customers about the horrible business practices and to protect their children from money grabbing lick based games like this. Look at EA. I hope kabam look at the out pouring of the community on this and leave him alone.

    Are you Kade from the Summoner Showdown?
  • RoninManRoninMan Member Posts: 747 ★★★★
    IDoge said:

    Notice how I said about equal and not perfectly equal? They are very similar.
    18% is not really close in most aspects. It can be the difference between passing and failing....
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,656 Guardian
    poppapavo said:

    I’d wager Kabam prefers that the players who spend money on this game feel generally safe that their investments aren’t going to depreciate at any given moment. What you describe does not seem like a business model that would encourage more spending.
    What I'm describing is all MMOs everywhere, and it also describes this game from the moment it launched. For a business model that isn't supposed to encourage spending, it sure does get a lot of spending.
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  • ZaddyV11ZaddyV11 Member Posts: 2
    And what if you absolutely mess up Cull Obsidian? What happens to the individuals that spent a nice chunk of change just to get this champ.. I’m assuming nothing
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,656 Guardian
    Mixalis said:

    I agree they would void their rights to play this game, but their would be a negative precedent that follows and I don't believe Kabam wants this to happen.
    I'm not sure it would set a negative precedent that doesn't already exist, but if you're correct that Kabam doesn't want this to happen, that would encourage them to not sue a player, and they generally don't. They just kick them off the service. But if a player attempted to sue Kabam, Kabam would have no choice but to use this defense. They would most definitely not attempt to settle out of court. That would set a far worse precedent, not just for Kabam but for other game companies as well. You'd probably have the entire game industry pressuring Kabam to not settle.
  • CaykoCayko Member Posts: 111


    4 fights done in 3.2 time after time.

    Not a parry missed and like 2 inevitable block hits from routing.
  • G0311G0311 Member Posts: 913 ★★★
    Lormif said:

    Question, if he is so bad why did you take him to rank 5 sig 184. You should have known how bad he was long before you pumped all those resources into him.
    Did you read what I wrote?? I said his block proficiency was bad. Not the champ. I also said that I would be ok with the lowered damage out put in exchange for a much better block proficiency. I believe you are just trying to troll me. I will not be responding to any nonsense from trolls. So say what u want, go find someone else to bait a fight with 😄
  • CaykoCayko Member Posts: 111
    Oh I also did use him in variant.
    It was really fun but believe me it was an expensive way to play
  • slayer6slayer6 Member Posts: 377 ★★
    There would have to be some sort of way to get money back for spent crystals getting him, i havn’t spent but if you have id be seriously looking into messaging apple or someone because once they release and leave for a fair amount of time get people to spend then nerf. And even giving a ticket for the likes of she hulk you still didn’t get $ back some spent chasing her in crystals or the gold and iso
  • ATotalBeardoATotalBeardo Member Posts: 1
    I don't argue changes much.. but here are my two cents on the Cull Obsidian changes:

    1. Block proficiency is bad.. for a character blocking with a shield.. it's abismal.
    2. Ramp up takes a lot of time. The first fight is useless and painful. Corvus ramp up makes sense because you can get a charge during the match itself. Even Morningstar works that way. The compensation for the ramp up effort is justifiable by the damage output.
    3. Balance needs to be across then. Increase Block proficiency, damage output by the energy can be a fair compensation IF AND ONLY IF the block damage values are justified.

    In isolation, you may consider a ramped up Cull dangerous. But with namor, corvus, ghost, omega red, all doing great damage without a ramp up... the promise of out damaging them may justify the utility of the champion.
  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Member Posts: 2,463 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    What I'm describing is all MMOs everywhere, and it also describes this game from the moment it launched. For a business model that isn't supposed to encourage spending, it sure does get a lot of spending.
    They do get a little tiny bit of mileage out of that Marvel license. That golden egg laying goose is quite strong. Their gaffes are annoying but not usually dealbreakers for most players. Even this is just annoying and makes me wish they would stop being Goofus for once. Their tactics are just so painful they've almost swung around to become art. Nearly everything is bad from statements to timing to public reasoning to quality assurance. At least everything customer facing. They could be performing acts of heroism bts to put out stuff this bad. God, that would be sad.
  • Justin2524Justin2524 Member Posts: 1,626 ★★★★
    Cayko said:



    4 fights done in 3.2 time after time.

    Not a parry missed and like 2 inevitable block hits from routing.

    OP
  • PHJfinPHJfin Member Posts: 60
    edited September 2019
    Ebony Maw's power steal is garbage. Opponent SHOULDN'T gain power from this attack. Now opponents don't have any negative effects from Ebony's heavy attack, as they gain as much power back, or even more.
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  • DaMunkDaMunk Member Posts: 1,883 ★★★★
    PHJfin said:

    Ebony Maw's power steal is garbage. Opponent SHOULDN'T gain power from this attack. Now opponents don't have any negative effects from Ebony's heavy attack, as they gain as much power back, or even more.

    Yeah I'd like to see them lose a little bit more. Hopefully he will get a nice little buff. He's sort of fun to use but not very helpful. He could be a decent champ if the new numbers come out right.
  • Justin2524Justin2524 Member Posts: 1,626 ★★★★
    DaMunk said:

    Yeah I'd like to see them lose a little bit more. Hopefully he will get a nice little buff. He's sort of fun to use but not very helpful. He could be a decent champ if the new numbers come out right.
    He is VERY fun to play. His animation is some of the best, ... all they really need to do is up his basic damage and maybe increase the degen on the specials and he'll be an above average champ.

    I for one am very excited to see what he can do.
  • DaMunkDaMunk Member Posts: 1,883 ★★★★

    He is VERY fun to play. His animation is some of the best, ... all they really need to do is up his basic damage and maybe increase the degen on the specials and he'll be an above average champ.

    I for one am very excited to see what he can do.
    Yeah I use him just for fun in the easier content because he's fun. I'm looking forward to his buff too.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,179 ★★★★★
    Mixalis said:

    You're going to sit their and tell me people in this game that spends tens of thousands of dollars won't find loopholes? I can't comment everything I wanted to say because I'm in kabam jail. It limits how many words I can write. Hundreds of cases have won regardless of tos. Ok, for example if they have the right to modify a champion, but then they must give back all the monies and resources spent and do far they have not. A rank down ticket doesn't cost thousands of dollars. Wake up.
    They haven't given money back. Their policy has been quite clear. Up until recently, there were NO refunds allowed. A loophole is what the negative balance has come from. Platforms were honoring those Refunds as a part of their own internal policies, and causing problems between themselves and Kabam. It is indeed fraudulent, regardless of how wronged someone feels. People want to argue for Refunds owing? Sure. They also run the risk of losing access to their Accounts. At least they did until recently. Now you can't make purchases until the balance is cleared. I'm unclear what you're debating, the legality of the TOS, or loopholes.....if you're arguing how the TOS will hold up, loopholes are not very sturdy in a Court of Law where the legality of it is everything.
  • Patchie93Patchie93 Member Posts: 1,898 ★★★★
    Midnite93 said:

    I am getting flashbacks of 12.0 really badly

    So 1 adjustment along with what 5 buffs is somehow comparable to 12.0? Considering no one currently knows the details of this adjustment that sounds like a pretty big stretch.

    This community cries wolf at every change yet if all their decisions were that bad I'm pretty sure the game wouldn't still be around and popular 4+ years later
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  • RoninManRoninMan Member Posts: 747 ★★★★
    IDoge said:

    Lol I like how you said rage and then brought up corvus lol. Have you forgotten you can also... back up and hold block for a rout buff? He can still outdamage most champs in stun immune/limber fights if he is at 10 charges with rout buff. If you think his armor break is his key damage output then maybe they will just put a cap on it for all we know
    You got me. I said rage and brought in Corvus and Ghost. So now my entire argument is invalid. Good job. You must be the debate champion of your middle school.

    Point still remains that Cull has far more counters than Corvus or Ghost.
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