Ultron Can't hit Ebony Maw

I tried this fight a few times with my Ultron and he just keeps missing. I've used other champions and I haven't had this problem. This is a video I took fighting the master difficulty boss. Its acting like I basically have the falter debuff on the whole time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNWXMRndQfI

Comments

Kabam Zibiit

Hey there, we'll pass this question on to the rest of the team.

Dtl7714

It would be great if there could be some type of response from Kabam on how big/how many charcaters were meant to be shut down by the unhittable mechanic. Sorry, hard to hit mechanic (hopefully that addition will keep certain trolls from copying and pasting). And if they will continue to introduce champs like this.

Hulksmasshh

Thank you. It seems like an unintended consequence that Ultron gets affected in this manner. Perhaps a simple change to Ultron and not Maw, if the guarenteed critical misses then it skips that critical hit in his ability.

MSRDLD

Making 4 champions unable to kill him is rather stupid design imo.

ItsDamien

Then start ranking up new champs. You know who would be a GREAT counter to all these champs that seem to have some sort of "Crit Negation" like Ebony Maw and Mr Sinister? Crossbones.

Dtl7714

Great suggestion. I will just r4 a new 5 star every month to deal with a newly released obnoxious mechanic. Cause the game gives out t2as like that

ItsDamien

It's not every month that a new champ comes out with a mechanic that forces you to rank up someone. Did you need to rank up someone new to counter Human Torch and Annihilus? How about Nick Fury and Captain Marvel Movie? Havok and Sinister? I doubt it. You're being melodramatic because you can't use your usual champs to defeat a single champion in a game with over 100 different champs in it.

Dtl7714

I have corvus r5. Never use him in War though, not a good choice for my lane. Always bring Void too. Will go right through him if I do meet him.

It's not as much melodramatic as I am trying to argue against people who think this a good idea and complain about this to avoid future champs being introduced who have unhittable mechanics.

ItsDamien

But there will ALWAYS be a counter, that's the thing about game design. Even if Kabam does the absolute least amount of Testing, (which I do believe is probably accurate based on my own Games Testing experience that they do not test things for more than a month), they'll know to test if a champion is beatable to some degree. Just because the meta champs aren't the best option for the newest champs that are coming out, doesn't mean that there isn't any other option out of over 100+ champs that can be a counter.

MSRDLD

I am all for certain champs taking away things that other champs can do well. That’s called balance. But to not allow some champs to beat them at all? To decide the fight before it begins? That’s going too far

Savio444

His abilities should be rethinked or just adjusted to guarantee crit special attacks miss.

Austin555555

Use science champs

YoMoves

Okay, so answer this one, wise guy.

What do you do when you can't see what champ you're fighting until you fight them? I.E. Alliance War in the top level? Are you just supposed to LOL I LOSE THAT'S FAIR when you have NO idea that the champ you literally can't beat is sitting there? You can prep for a node, but if it's a 50/50 on the champ, how is that intuitive, fair gameplay?

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ItsDamien

Well let's take into account the champs that Ebony Maw shuts down, for lack of a better term, and apply it to your war scenario.

Corvus - Why would you take a Cosmic against a Mystic champ? Class disadvantage and he doesn't gain any charges against Mystics other than Scarlet Witch as she's classed as an Avenger.

Ghost - You can still beat Maw, you just can't use the normal strategy of getting her guaranteed Critical Hits, she can still beat him.

Elektra - I don't know anyone especially in the higher tier wars, which is where most of these complaints always seem to go to since higher tier players value war more than lower, who will use Elektra. If you know a Tier 5 or higher player that uses Elektra in war a lot, please show me.

Ultron - Same as above. I don't know any Tier 5 player who uses Ultron in war.

Sym Spidey - Same as above, but also it's only his SP2 that's a guaranteed critical.

Gamora - Same as above, but it's her SP1 and SP2.

So out of those, the only ones that are affected in War, especially in the higher tiers, are Corvus who doesn't gain anything from fighting mystics and also has the class disadvantage, and Ghost, who can still fight him just not using the guaranteed critical hit style of play.

So tell me, in War, where is the issue?

Mitchell35

Lol you literally just said, “endgame players don’t use those champs, it’s not an issue”

ItsDamien

In the reply to the person who asked me, they stated higher tier wars, so I gave my examples in terms of higher tier wars. Don't try and twist it to fit your own narrative.

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ItsDamien

And if they didn't introduce anything different how long before the game becomes stagnant and boring? How many champs have they added that do the same thing as Maw does and shuts down a few champs?

Adapt and evolve, or stay the same and stagnate, which is the better of these two evils?

RagamugginGunner

Just think about how fun it will be to put a whole AWD line of defenders that literally can't be beat by the top attackers. Seems like great game design.

ItsDamien

Then new "top attackers" will start appearing. The meta will change. I don't see that as a bad thing.

Kabam Lyra

Apologies for the delayed reply. With relation to the specific issue here with Ultron, the below fix was applied yesterday.

- Fixed an issue where Ultron would no longer be able to hit Ebony Maw after Missing the 5th hit, which has a 100% Critical chance.

Gamer

What with Elektra when below 15 procent ?

Dtl7714

Holy cow. Progress made. I guess this type of quick fix would seem to indicate that unhittable scenarios weren't completely intended. So much for natural progression argument

GroundedWisdom

Not exactly. One Champ was fixed.

Dtl7714

Exactly. FIXED. Thanks for agreeing. That means Maw being unhittable was wrong. And if him being unhittable is wrong he shouldnt be unhittable by anybody

ItsDamien

Well that means the ONLY champ he's unhittable by now at 15% or 25% awakened, is Elektra. If they fix that, then you'll be happy right?

Dtl7714

Actually the maw thing against corvus isnt my biggest problem. I actually care very little about that. It's the idea of an unwinnable match mechanic being introduced. I hate the concept and dont want it repeated on future characters.

The bigger stink made now by as many people as possible hopefully discourages this in the future.

GroundedWisdom

Once again, it's not unwinnable. You use different Champs. That's not a travesty.

Mirage_Turtle

It may still be possible with her. Her natural ability accuracy reduction when debuffs are placed coupled with the pacify mastery should be able to shut down Maw's ability accuracy by 100%. In theory, this means hits while he's stunned won't miss even if he's in Elektra's guaranteed crit range.

Anyone test this yet?