Everyone likes using the word counter. If I us KM with true strike to counter medusa's auto block that's a counter. She can still kill me very easiy.
To completely shut down the ability of an opponent to attack for the remainder of a fight such as Ultron, elektra,being left with no option but to light hit with corvus for entirety of fight takes the concept of counter to an obsurd level. To sit their and tell people to just use other champs is cute for event quest or tier 15 wars but for those of us that play higher level wars where lanes and nodes matter more than just guessing at your opponent due to class it sucks.
And my bigger concern is that Kabam thinks it's cute to keep introducing unhittable champs. And finding different scenarios to have champs being unhitable.
Then start ranking up new champs. You know who would be a GREAT counter to all these champs that seem to have some sort of "Crit Negation" like Ebony Maw and Mr Sinister? Crossbones.
Everyone likes using the word counter. If I us KM with true strike to counter medusa's auto block that's a counter. She can still kill me very easiy.
To completely shut down the ability of an opponent to attack for the remainder of a fight such as Ultron, elektra,being left with no option but to light hit with corvus for entirety of fight takes the concept of counter to an obsurd level. To sit their and tell people to just use other champs is cute for event quest or tier 15 wars but for those of us that play higher level wars where lanes and nodes matter more than just guessing at your opponent due to class it sucks.
And my bigger concern is that Kabam thinks it's cute to keep introducing unhittable champs. And finding different scenarios to have champs being unhitable.
Then start ranking up new champs. You know who would be a GREAT counter to all these champs that seem to have some sort of "Crit Negation" like Ebony Maw and Mr Sinister? Crossbones.
Great suggestion. I will just r4 a new 5 star every month to deal with a newly released obnoxious mechanic. Cause the game gives out t2as like that
Everyone likes using the word counter. If I us KM with true strike to counter medusa's auto block that's a counter. She can still kill me very easiy.
To completely shut down the ability of an opponent to attack for the remainder of a fight such as Ultron, elektra,being left with no option but to light hit with corvus for entirety of fight takes the concept of counter to an obsurd level. To sit their and tell people to just use other champs is cute for event quest or tier 15 wars but for those of us that play higher level wars where lanes and nodes matter more than just guessing at your opponent due to class it sucks.
And my bigger concern is that Kabam thinks it's cute to keep introducing unhittable champs. And finding different scenarios to have champs being unhitable.
Then start ranking up new champs. You know who would be a GREAT counter to all these champs that seem to have some sort of "Crit Negation" like Ebony Maw and Mr Sinister? Crossbones.
Great suggestion. I will just r4 a new 5 star every month to deal with a newly released obnoxious mechanic. Cause the game gives out t2as like that
It's not every month that a new champ comes out with a mechanic that forces you to rank up someone. Did you need to rank up someone new to counter Human Torch and Annihilus? How about Nick Fury and Captain Marvel Movie? Havok and Sinister? I doubt it. You're being melodramatic because you can't use your usual champs to defeat a single champion in a game with over 100 different champs in it.
Everyone likes using the word counter. If I us KM with true strike to counter medusa's auto block that's a counter. She can still kill me very easiy.
To completely shut down the ability of an opponent to attack for the remainder of a fight such as Ultron, elektra,being left with no option but to light hit with corvus for entirety of fight takes the concept of counter to an obsurd level. To sit their and tell people to just use other champs is cute for event quest or tier 15 wars but for those of us that play higher level wars where lanes and nodes matter more than just guessing at your opponent due to class it sucks.
And my bigger concern is that Kabam thinks it's cute to keep introducing unhittable champs. And finding different scenarios to have champs being unhitable.
Then start ranking up new champs. You know who would be a GREAT counter to all these champs that seem to have some sort of "Crit Negation" like Ebony Maw and Mr Sinister? Crossbones.
Great suggestion. I will just r4 a new 5 star every month to deal with a newly released obnoxious mechanic. Cause the game gives out t2as like that
It's not every month that a new champ comes out with a mechanic that forces you to rank up someone. Did you need to rank up someone new to counter Human Torch and Annihilus? How about Nick Fury and Captain Marvel Movie? Havok and Sinister? I doubt it. You're being melodramatic because you can't use your usual champs to defeat a single champion in a game with over 100 different champs in it.
I have corvus r5. Never use him in War though, not a good choice for my lane. Always bring Void too. Will go right through him if I do meet him.
It's not as much melodramatic as I am trying to argue against people who think this a good idea and complain about this to avoid future champs being introduced who have unhittable mechanics.
Everyone likes using the word counter. If I us KM with true strike to counter medusa's auto block that's a counter. She can still kill me very easiy.
To completely shut down the ability of an opponent to attack for the remainder of a fight such as Ultron, elektra,being left with no option but to light hit with corvus for entirety of fight takes the concept of counter to an obsurd level. To sit their and tell people to just use other champs is cute for event quest or tier 15 wars but for those of us that play higher level wars where lanes and nodes matter more than just guessing at your opponent due to class it sucks.
And my bigger concern is that Kabam thinks it's cute to keep introducing unhittable champs. And finding different scenarios to have champs being unhitable.
Then start ranking up new champs. You know who would be a GREAT counter to all these champs that seem to have some sort of "Crit Negation" like Ebony Maw and Mr Sinister? Crossbones.
Great suggestion. I will just r4 a new 5 star every month to deal with a newly released obnoxious mechanic. Cause the game gives out t2as like that
It's not every month that a new champ comes out with a mechanic that forces you to rank up someone. Did you need to rank up someone new to counter Human Torch and Annihilus? How about Nick Fury and Captain Marvel Movie? Havok and Sinister? I doubt it. You're being melodramatic because you can't use your usual champs to defeat a single champion in a game with over 100 different champs in it.
I have corvus r5. Never use him in War though, not a good choice for my lane. Always bring Void too. Will go right through him if I do meet him.
It's not as much melodramatic as I am trying to argue against people who think this a good idea and complain about this to avoid future champs being introduced who have unhittable mechanics.
But there will ALWAYS be a counter, that's the thing about game design. Even if Kabam does the absolute least amount of Testing, (which I do believe is probably accurate based on my own Games Testing experience that they do not test things for more than a month), they'll know to test if a champion is beatable to some degree. Just because the meta champs aren't the best option for the newest champs that are coming out, doesn't mean that there isn't any other option out of over 100+ champs that can be a counter.
I am all for certain champs taking away things that other champs can do well. That’s called balance. But to not allow some champs to beat them at all? To decide the fight before it begins? That’s going too far
Everyone likes using the word counter. If I us KM with true strike to counter medusa's auto block that's a counter. She can still kill me very easiy.
To completely shut down the ability of an opponent to attack for the remainder of a fight such as Ultron, elektra,being left with no option but to light hit with corvus for entirety of fight takes the concept of counter to an obsurd level. To sit their and tell people to just use other champs is cute for event quest or tier 15 wars but for those of us that play higher level wars where lanes and nodes matter more than just guessing at your opponent due to class it sucks.
And my bigger concern is that Kabam thinks it's cute to keep introducing unhittable champs. And finding different scenarios to have champs being unhitable.
Then start ranking up new champs. You know who would be a GREAT counter to all these champs that seem to have some sort of "Crit Negation" like Ebony Maw and Mr Sinister? Crossbones.
Great suggestion. I will just r4 a new 5 star every month to deal with a newly released obnoxious mechanic. Cause the game gives out t2as like that
It's not every month that a new champ comes out with a mechanic that forces you to rank up someone. Did you need to rank up someone new to counter Human Torch and Annihilus? How about Nick Fury and Captain Marvel Movie? Havok and Sinister? I doubt it. You're being melodramatic because you can't use your usual champs to defeat a single champion in a game with over 100 different champs in it.
I have corvus r5. Never use him in War though, not a good choice for my lane. Always bring Void too. Will go right through him if I do meet him.
It's not as much melodramatic as I am trying to argue against people who think this a good idea and complain about this to avoid future champs being introduced who have unhittable mechanics.
But there will ALWAYS be a counter, that's the thing about game design. Even if Kabam does the absolute least amount of Testing, (which I do believe is probably accurate based on my own Games Testing experience that they do not test things for more than a month), they'll know to test if a champion is beatable to some degree. Just because the meta champs aren't the best option for the newest champs that are coming out, doesn't mean that there isn't any other option out of over 100+ champs that can be a counter.
Okay, so answer this one, wise guy.
What do you do when you can't see what champ you're fighting until you fight them? I.E. Alliance War in the top level? Are you just supposed to LOL I LOSE THAT'S FAIR when you have NO idea that the champ you literally can't beat is sitting there? You can prep for a node, but if it's a 50/50 on the champ, how is that intuitive, fair gameplay?
Everyone likes using the word counter. If I us KM with true strike to counter medusa's auto block that's a counter. She can still kill me very easiy.
To completely shut down the ability of an opponent to attack for the remainder of a fight such as Ultron, elektra,being left with no option but to light hit with corvus for entirety of fight takes the concept of counter to an obsurd level. To sit their and tell people to just use other champs is cute for event quest or tier 15 wars but for those of us that play higher level wars where lanes and nodes matter more than just guessing at your opponent due to class it sucks.
And my bigger concern is that Kabam thinks it's cute to keep introducing unhittable champs. And finding different scenarios to have champs being unhitable.
Then start ranking up new champs. You know who would be a GREAT counter to all these champs that seem to have some sort of "Crit Negation" like Ebony Maw and Mr Sinister? Crossbones.
Great suggestion. I will just r4 a new 5 star every month to deal with a newly released obnoxious mechanic. Cause the game gives out t2as like that
It's not every month that a new champ comes out with a mechanic that forces you to rank up someone. Did you need to rank up someone new to counter Human Torch and Annihilus? How about Nick Fury and Captain Marvel Movie? Havok and Sinister? I doubt it. You're being melodramatic because you can't use your usual champs to defeat a single champion in a game with over 100 different champs in it.
I have corvus r5. Never use him in War though, not a good choice for my lane. Always bring Void too. Will go right through him if I do meet him.
It's not as much melodramatic as I am trying to argue against people who think this a good idea and complain about this to avoid future champs being introduced who have unhittable mechanics.
But there will ALWAYS be a counter, that's the thing about game design. Even if Kabam does the absolute least amount of Testing, (which I do believe is probably accurate based on my own Games Testing experience that they do not test things for more than a month), they'll know to test if a champion is beatable to some degree. Just because the meta champs aren't the best option for the newest champs that are coming out, doesn't mean that there isn't any other option out of over 100+ champs that can be a counter.
Okay, so answer this one, wise guy.
What do you do when you can't see what champ you're fighting until you fight them? I.E. Alliance War in the top level? Are you just supposed to LOL I LOSE THAT'S FAIR when you have NO idea that the champ you literally can't beat is sitting there? You can prep for a node, but if it's a 50/50 on the champ, how is that intuitive, fair gameplay?
Well let's take into account the champs that Ebony Maw shuts down, for lack of a better term, and apply it to your war scenario.
Corvus - Why would you take a Cosmic against a Mystic champ? Class disadvantage and he doesn't gain any charges against Mystics other than Scarlet Witch as she's classed as an Avenger.
Ghost - You can still beat Maw, you just can't use the normal strategy of getting her guaranteed Critical Hits, she can still beat him.
Elektra - I don't know anyone especially in the higher tier wars, which is where most of these complaints always seem to go to since higher tier players value war more than lower, who will use Elektra. If you know a Tier 5 or higher player that uses Elektra in war a lot, please show me.
Ultron - Same as above. I don't know any Tier 5 player who uses Ultron in war.
Sym Spidey - Same as above, but also it's only his SP2 that's a guaranteed critical.
Gamora - Same as above, but it's her SP1 and SP2.
So out of those, the only ones that are affected in War, especially in the higher tiers, are Corvus who doesn't gain anything from fighting mystics and also has the class disadvantage, and Ghost, who can still fight him just not using the guaranteed critical hit style of play.
Everyone likes using the word counter. If I us KM with true strike to counter medusa's auto block that's a counter. She can still kill me very easiy.
To completely shut down the ability of an opponent to attack for the remainder of a fight such as Ultron, elektra,being left with no option but to light hit with corvus for entirety of fight takes the concept of counter to an obsurd level. To sit their and tell people to just use other champs is cute for event quest or tier 15 wars but for those of us that play higher level wars where lanes and nodes matter more than just guessing at your opponent due to class it sucks.
And my bigger concern is that Kabam thinks it's cute to keep introducing unhittable champs. And finding different scenarios to have champs being unhitable.
Then start ranking up new champs. You know who would be a GREAT counter to all these champs that seem to have some sort of "Crit Negation" like Ebony Maw and Mr Sinister? Crossbones.
Great suggestion. I will just r4 a new 5 star every month to deal with a newly released obnoxious mechanic. Cause the game gives out t2as like that
It's not every month that a new champ comes out with a mechanic that forces you to rank up someone. Did you need to rank up someone new to counter Human Torch and Annihilus? How about Nick Fury and Captain Marvel Movie? Havok and Sinister? I doubt it. You're being melodramatic because you can't use your usual champs to defeat a single champion in a game with over 100 different champs in it.
I have corvus r5. Never use him in War though, not a good choice for my lane. Always bring Void too. Will go right through him if I do meet him.
It's not as much melodramatic as I am trying to argue against people who think this a good idea and complain about this to avoid future champs being introduced who have unhittable mechanics.
But there will ALWAYS be a counter, that's the thing about game design. Even if Kabam does the absolute least amount of Testing, (which I do believe is probably accurate based on my own Games Testing experience that they do not test things for more than a month), they'll know to test if a champion is beatable to some degree. Just because the meta champs aren't the best option for the newest champs that are coming out, doesn't mean that there isn't any other option out of over 100+ champs that can be a counter.
Okay, so answer this one, wise guy.
What do you do when you can't see what champ you're fighting until you fight them? I.E. Alliance War in the top level? Are you just supposed to LOL I LOSE THAT'S FAIR when you have NO idea that the champ you literally can't beat is sitting there? You can prep for a node, but if it's a 50/50 on the champ, how is that intuitive, fair gameplay?
Well let's take into account the champs that Ebony Maw shuts down, for lack of a better term, and apply it to your war scenario.
Corvus - Why would you take a Cosmic against a Mystic champ? Class disadvantage and he doesn't gain any charges against Mystics other than Scarlet Witch as she's classed as an Avenger.
Ghost - You can still beat Maw, you just can't use the normal strategy of getting her guaranteed Critical Hits, she can still beat him.
Elektra - I don't know anyone especially in the higher tier wars, which is where most of these complaints always seem to go to since higher tier players value war more than lower, who will use Elektra. If you know a Tier 5 or higher player that uses Elektra in war a lot, please show me.
Ultron - Same as above. I don't know any Tier 5 player who uses Ultron in war.
Sym Spidey - Same as above, but also it's only his SP2 that's a guaranteed critical.
Gamora - Same as above, but it's her SP1 and SP2.
So out of those, the only ones that are affected in War, especially in the higher tiers, are Corvus who doesn't gain anything from fighting mystics and also has the class disadvantage, and Ghost, who can still fight him just not using the guaranteed critical hit style of play.
So tell me, in War, where is the issue?
Lol you literally just said, “endgame players don’t use those champs, it’s not an issue”
Everyone likes using the word counter. If I us KM with true strike to counter medusa's auto block that's a counter. She can still kill me very easiy.
To completely shut down the ability of an opponent to attack for the remainder of a fight such as Ultron, elektra,being left with no option but to light hit with corvus for entirety of fight takes the concept of counter to an obsurd level. To sit their and tell people to just use other champs is cute for event quest or tier 15 wars but for those of us that play higher level wars where lanes and nodes matter more than just guessing at your opponent due to class it sucks.
And my bigger concern is that Kabam thinks it's cute to keep introducing unhittable champs. And finding different scenarios to have champs being unhitable.
Then start ranking up new champs. You know who would be a GREAT counter to all these champs that seem to have some sort of "Crit Negation" like Ebony Maw and Mr Sinister? Crossbones.
Great suggestion. I will just r4 a new 5 star every month to deal with a newly released obnoxious mechanic. Cause the game gives out t2as like that
It's not every month that a new champ comes out with a mechanic that forces you to rank up someone. Did you need to rank up someone new to counter Human Torch and Annihilus? How about Nick Fury and Captain Marvel Movie? Havok and Sinister? I doubt it. You're being melodramatic because you can't use your usual champs to defeat a single champion in a game with over 100 different champs in it.
I have corvus r5. Never use him in War though, not a good choice for my lane. Always bring Void too. Will go right through him if I do meet him.
It's not as much melodramatic as I am trying to argue against people who think this a good idea and complain about this to avoid future champs being introduced who have unhittable mechanics.
But there will ALWAYS be a counter, that's the thing about game design. Even if Kabam does the absolute least amount of Testing, (which I do believe is probably accurate based on my own Games Testing experience that they do not test things for more than a month), they'll know to test if a champion is beatable to some degree. Just because the meta champs aren't the best option for the newest champs that are coming out, doesn't mean that there isn't any other option out of over 100+ champs that can be a counter.
Okay, so answer this one, wise guy.
What do you do when you can't see what champ you're fighting until you fight them? I.E. Alliance War in the top level? Are you just supposed to LOL I LOSE THAT'S FAIR when you have NO idea that the champ you literally can't beat is sitting there? You can prep for a node, but if it's a 50/50 on the champ, how is that intuitive, fair gameplay?
Well let's take into account the champs that Ebony Maw shuts down, for lack of a better term, and apply it to your war scenario.
Corvus - Why would you take a Cosmic against a Mystic champ? Class disadvantage and he doesn't gain any charges against Mystics other than Scarlet Witch as she's classed as an Avenger.
Ghost - You can still beat Maw, you just can't use the normal strategy of getting her guaranteed Critical Hits, she can still beat him.
Elektra - I don't know anyone especially in the higher tier wars, which is where most of these complaints always seem to go to since higher tier players value war more than lower, who will use Elektra. If you know a Tier 5 or higher player that uses Elektra in war a lot, please show me.
Ultron - Same as above. I don't know any Tier 5 player who uses Ultron in war.
Sym Spidey - Same as above, but also it's only his SP2 that's a guaranteed critical.
Gamora - Same as above, but it's her SP1 and SP2.
So out of those, the only ones that are affected in War, especially in the higher tiers, are Corvus who doesn't gain anything from fighting mystics and also has the class disadvantage, and Ghost, who can still fight him just not using the guaranteed critical hit style of play.
So tell me, in War, where is the issue?
Lol you literally just said, “endgame players don’t use those champs, it’s not an issue”
In the reply to the person who asked me, they stated higher tier wars, so I gave my examples in terms of higher tier wars. Don't try and twist it to fit your own narrative.
Everyone likes using the word counter. If I us KM with true strike to counter medusa's auto block that's a counter. She can still kill me very easiy.
To completely shut down the ability of an opponent to attack for the remainder of a fight such as Ultron, elektra,being left with no option but to light hit with corvus for entirety of fight takes the concept of counter to an obsurd level. To sit their and tell people to just use other champs is cute for event quest or tier 15 wars but for those of us that play higher level wars where lanes and nodes matter more than just guessing at your opponent due to class it sucks.
And my bigger concern is that Kabam thinks it's cute to keep introducing unhittable champs. And finding different scenarios to have champs being unhitable.
Then start ranking up new champs. You know who would be a GREAT counter to all these champs that seem to have some sort of "Crit Negation" like Ebony Maw and Mr Sinister? Crossbones.
Great suggestion. I will just r4 a new 5 star every month to deal with a newly released obnoxious mechanic. Cause the game gives out t2as like that
It's not every month that a new champ comes out with a mechanic that forces you to rank up someone. Did you need to rank up someone new to counter Human Torch and Annihilus? How about Nick Fury and Captain Marvel Movie? Havok and Sinister? I doubt it. You're being melodramatic because you can't use your usual champs to defeat a single champion in a game with over 100 different champs in it.
I have corvus r5. Never use him in War though, not a good choice for my lane. Always bring Void too. Will go right through him if I do meet him.
It's not as much melodramatic as I am trying to argue against people who think this a good idea and complain about this to avoid future champs being introduced who have unhittable mechanics.
But there will ALWAYS be a counter, that's the thing about game design. Even if Kabam does the absolute least amount of Testing, (which I do believe is probably accurate based on my own Games Testing experience that they do not test things for more than a month), they'll know to test if a champion is beatable to some degree. Just because the meta champs aren't the best option for the newest champs that are coming out, doesn't mean that there isn't any other option out of over 100+ champs that can be a counter.
Okay, so answer this one, wise guy.
What do you do when you can't see what champ you're fighting until you fight them? I.E. Alliance War in the top level? Are you just supposed to LOL I LOSE THAT'S FAIR when you have NO idea that the champ you literally can't beat is sitting there? You can prep for a node, but if it's a 50/50 on the champ, how is that intuitive, fair gameplay?
Well let's take into account the champs that Ebony Maw shuts down, for lack of a better term, and apply it to your war scenario.
Corvus - Why would you take a Cosmic against a Mystic champ? Class disadvantage and he doesn't gain any charges against Mystics other than Scarlet Witch as she's classed as an Avenger.
Ghost - You can still beat Maw, you just can't use the normal strategy of getting her guaranteed Critical Hits, she can still beat him.
Elektra - I don't know anyone especially in the higher tier wars, which is where most of these complaints always seem to go to since higher tier players value war more than lower, who will use Elektra. If you know a Tier 5 or higher player that uses Elektra in war a lot, please show me.
Ultron - Same as above. I don't know any Tier 5 player who uses Ultron in war.
Sym Spidey - Same as above, but also it's only his SP2 that's a guaranteed critical.
Gamora - Same as above, but it's her SP1 and SP2.
So out of those, the only ones that are affected in War, especially in the higher tiers, are Corvus who doesn't gain anything from fighting mystics and also has the class disadvantage, and Ghost, who can still fight him just not using the guaranteed critical hit style of play.
So tell me, in War, where is the issue?
Lol you literally just said, “endgame players don’t use those champs, it’s not an issue”
In the reply to the person who asked me, they stated higher tier wars, so I gave my examples in terms of higher tier wars. Don't try and twist it to fit your own narrative.
The problem is when you let them start introducing stuff like this, where does it end? It literally made someone unkillable regardless of the node they are on if you use the wrong champ. Not hard to kill, not takes long to kill, not hurt yourself while trying to kill.....just impossible to kill. If you don't see why that's a horrible road to start heading down then you just want to be different.
And if they didn't introduce anything different how long before the game becomes stagnant and boring? How many champs have they added that do the same thing as Maw does and shuts down a few champs?
Adapt and evolve, or stay the same and stagnate, which is the better of these two evils?
Everyone likes using the word counter. If I us KM with true strike to counter medusa's auto block that's a counter. She can still kill me very easiy.
To completely shut down the ability of an opponent to attack for the remainder of a fight such as Ultron, elektra,being left with no option but to light hit with corvus for entirety of fight takes the concept of counter to an obsurd level. To sit their and tell people to just use other champs is cute for event quest or tier 15 wars but for those of us that play higher level wars where lanes and nodes matter more than just guessing at your opponent due to class it sucks.
And my bigger concern is that Kabam thinks it's cute to keep introducing unhittable champs. And finding different scenarios to have champs being unhitable.
Then start ranking up new champs. You know who would be a GREAT counter to all these champs that seem to have some sort of "Crit Negation" like Ebony Maw and Mr Sinister? Crossbones.
Great suggestion. I will just r4 a new 5 star every month to deal with a newly released obnoxious mechanic. Cause the game gives out t2as like that
It's not every month that a new champ comes out with a mechanic that forces you to rank up someone. Did you need to rank up someone new to counter Human Torch and Annihilus? How about Nick Fury and Captain Marvel Movie? Havok and Sinister? I doubt it. You're being melodramatic because you can't use your usual champs to defeat a single champion in a game with over 100 different champs in it.
I have corvus r5. Never use him in War though, not a good choice for my lane. Always bring Void too. Will go right through him if I do meet him.
It's not as much melodramatic as I am trying to argue against people who think this a good idea and complain about this to avoid future champs being introduced who have unhittable mechanics.
But there will ALWAYS be a counter, that's the thing about game design. Even if Kabam does the absolute least amount of Testing, (which I do believe is probably accurate based on my own Games Testing experience that they do not test things for more than a month), they'll know to test if a champion is beatable to some degree. Just because the meta champs aren't the best option for the newest champs that are coming out, doesn't mean that there isn't any other option out of over 100+ champs that can be a counter.
Okay, so answer this one, wise guy.
What do you do when you can't see what champ you're fighting until you fight them? I.E. Alliance War in the top level? Are you just supposed to LOL I LOSE THAT'S FAIR when you have NO idea that the champ you literally can't beat is sitting there? You can prep for a node, but if it's a 50/50 on the champ, how is that intuitive, fair gameplay?
Well let's take into account the champs that Ebony Maw shuts down, for lack of a better term, and apply it to your war scenario.
Corvus - Why would you take a Cosmic against a Mystic champ? Class disadvantage and he doesn't gain any charges against Mystics other than Scarlet Witch as she's classed as an Avenger.
Ghost - You can still beat Maw, you just can't use the normal strategy of getting her guaranteed Critical Hits, she can still beat him.
Elektra - I don't know anyone especially in the higher tier wars, which is where most of these complaints always seem to go to since higher tier players value war more than lower, who will use Elektra. If you know a Tier 5 or higher player that uses Elektra in war a lot, please show me.
Ultron - Same as above. I don't know any Tier 5 player who uses Ultron in war.
Sym Spidey - Same as above, but also it's only his SP2 that's a guaranteed critical.
Gamora - Same as above, but it's her SP1 and SP2.
So out of those, the only ones that are affected in War, especially in the higher tiers, are Corvus who doesn't gain anything from fighting mystics and also has the class disadvantage, and Ghost, who can still fight him just not using the guaranteed critical hit style of play.
So tell me, in War, where is the issue?
Lol you literally just said, “endgame players don’t use those champs, it’s not an issue”
In the reply to the person who asked me, they stated higher tier wars, so I gave my examples in terms of higher tier wars. Don't try and twist it to fit your own narrative.
The problem is when you let them start introducing stuff like this, where does it end? It literally made someone unkillable regardless of the node they are on if you use the wrong champ. Not hard to kill, not takes long to kill, not hurt yourself while trying to kill.....just impossible to kill. If you don't see why that's a horrible road to start heading down then you just want to be different.
Just think about how fun it will be to put a whole AWD line of defenders that literally can't be beat by the top attackers. Seems like great game design.
Everyone likes using the word counter. If I us KM with true strike to counter medusa's auto block that's a counter. She can still kill me very easiy.
To completely shut down the ability of an opponent to attack for the remainder of a fight such as Ultron, elektra,being left with no option but to light hit with corvus for entirety of fight takes the concept of counter to an obsurd level. To sit their and tell people to just use other champs is cute for event quest or tier 15 wars but for those of us that play higher level wars where lanes and nodes matter more than just guessing at your opponent due to class it sucks.
And my bigger concern is that Kabam thinks it's cute to keep introducing unhittable champs. And finding different scenarios to have champs being unhitable.
Then start ranking up new champs. You know who would be a GREAT counter to all these champs that seem to have some sort of "Crit Negation" like Ebony Maw and Mr Sinister? Crossbones.
Great suggestion. I will just r4 a new 5 star every month to deal with a newly released obnoxious mechanic. Cause the game gives out t2as like that
It's not every month that a new champ comes out with a mechanic that forces you to rank up someone. Did you need to rank up someone new to counter Human Torch and Annihilus? How about Nick Fury and Captain Marvel Movie? Havok and Sinister? I doubt it. You're being melodramatic because you can't use your usual champs to defeat a single champion in a game with over 100 different champs in it.
I have corvus r5. Never use him in War though, not a good choice for my lane. Always bring Void too. Will go right through him if I do meet him.
It's not as much melodramatic as I am trying to argue against people who think this a good idea and complain about this to avoid future champs being introduced who have unhittable mechanics.
But there will ALWAYS be a counter, that's the thing about game design. Even if Kabam does the absolute least amount of Testing, (which I do believe is probably accurate based on my own Games Testing experience that they do not test things for more than a month), they'll know to test if a champion is beatable to some degree. Just because the meta champs aren't the best option for the newest champs that are coming out, doesn't mean that there isn't any other option out of over 100+ champs that can be a counter.
Okay, so answer this one, wise guy.
What do you do when you can't see what champ you're fighting until you fight them? I.E. Alliance War in the top level? Are you just supposed to LOL I LOSE THAT'S FAIR when you have NO idea that the champ you literally can't beat is sitting there? You can prep for a node, but if it's a 50/50 on the champ, how is that intuitive, fair gameplay?
Well let's take into account the champs that Ebony Maw shuts down, for lack of a better term, and apply it to your war scenario.
Corvus - Why would you take a Cosmic against a Mystic champ? Class disadvantage and he doesn't gain any charges against Mystics other than Scarlet Witch as she's classed as an Avenger.
Ghost - You can still beat Maw, you just can't use the normal strategy of getting her guaranteed Critical Hits, she can still beat him.
Elektra - I don't know anyone especially in the higher tier wars, which is where most of these complaints always seem to go to since higher tier players value war more than lower, who will use Elektra. If you know a Tier 5 or higher player that uses Elektra in war a lot, please show me.
Ultron - Same as above. I don't know any Tier 5 player who uses Ultron in war.
Sym Spidey - Same as above, but also it's only his SP2 that's a guaranteed critical.
Gamora - Same as above, but it's her SP1 and SP2.
So out of those, the only ones that are affected in War, especially in the higher tiers, are Corvus who doesn't gain anything from fighting mystics and also has the class disadvantage, and Ghost, who can still fight him just not using the guaranteed critical hit style of play.
So tell me, in War, where is the issue?
Lol you literally just said, “endgame players don’t use those champs, it’s not an issue”
In the reply to the person who asked me, they stated higher tier wars, so I gave my examples in terms of higher tier wars. Don't try and twist it to fit your own narrative.
The problem is when you let them start introducing stuff like this, where does it end? It literally made someone unkillable regardless of the node they are on if you use the wrong champ. Not hard to kill, not takes long to kill, not hurt yourself while trying to kill.....just impossible to kill. If you don't see why that's a horrible road to start heading down then you just want to be different.
Just think about how fun it will be to put a whole AWD line of defenders that literally can't be beat by the top attackers. Seems like great game design.
Then new "top attackers" will start appearing. The meta will change. I don't see that as a bad thing.
Apologies for the delayed reply. With relation to the specific issue here with Ultron, the below fix was applied yesterday.
- Fixed an issue where Ultron would no longer be able to hit Ebony Maw after Missing the 5th hit, which has a 100% Critical chance.
Holy cow. Progress made. I guess this type of quick fix would seem to indicate that unhittable scenarios weren't completely intended. So much for natural progression argument
Exactly. FIXED. Thanks for agreeing. That means Maw being unhittable was wrong. And if him being unhittable is wrong he shouldnt be unhittable by anybody
Exactly. FIXED. Thanks for agreeing. That means Maw being unhittable was wrong. And if him being unhittable is wrong he shouldnt be unhittable by anybody
Well that means the ONLY champ he's unhittable by now at 15% or 25% awakened, is Elektra. If they fix that, then you'll be happy right?
Actually the maw thing against corvus isnt my biggest problem. I actually care very little about that. It's the idea of an unwinnable match mechanic being introduced. I hate the concept and dont want it repeated on future characters.
The bigger stink made now by as many people as possible hopefully discourages this in the future.
Exactly. FIXED. Thanks for agreeing. That means Maw being unhittable was wrong. And if him being unhittable is wrong he shouldnt be unhittable by anybody
Well that means the ONLY champ he's unhittable by now at 15% or 25% awakened, is Elektra. If they fix that, then you'll be happy right?
It may still be possible with her. Her natural ability accuracy reduction when debuffs are placed coupled with the pacify mastery should be able to shut down Maw's ability accuracy by 100%. In theory, this means hits while he's stunned won't miss even if he's in Elektra's guaranteed crit range.
Once again, it's not unwinnable. You use different Champs. That's not a travesty.
You love copy and paste dont you. For certain champs its unwinnable. That's what I dont like and what I dont want repeated. I dont want them continuing to introduce champs that are unbeatable by certain other champs.
Not sure why you love seeing that statement clarified so much.
But your cool with that idea. You imagine it's a natural progression of the game. I say it lazy development to just go we will make a champ unbeatable by certain other champs.
Exactly. FIXED. Thanks for agreeing. That means Maw being unhittable was wrong. And if him being unhittable is wrong he shouldnt be unhittable by anybody
Well that means the ONLY champ he's unhittable by now at 15% or 25% awakened, is Elektra. If they fix that, then you'll be happy right?
I’m wil be okay with that but can also make all champ visible in war for make of it so we can make plans better and decided with champ to bring.
Exactly. FIXED. Thanks for agreeing. That means Maw being unhittable was wrong. And if him being unhittable is wrong he shouldnt be unhittable by anybody
Well that means the ONLY champ he's unhittable by now at 15% or 25% awakened, is Elektra. If they fix that, then you'll be happy right?
It may still be possible with her. Her natural ability accuracy reduction when debuffs are placed coupled with the pacify mastery should be able to shut down Maw's ability accuracy by 100%. In theory, this means hits while he's stunned won't miss even if he's in Elektra's guaranteed crit range.
Anyone test this yet?
Just did duped elektra against maw on master. Got him to 18% then she couldnt land another hit.
Once again, it's not unwinnable. You use different Champs. That's not a travesty.
You love copy and paste dont you. For certain champs its unwinnable. That's what I dont like and what I dont want repeated. I dont want them continuing to introduce champs that are unbeatable by certain other champs.
Not sure why you love seeing that statement clarified so much.
But your cool with that idea. You imagine it's a natural progression of the game. I say it lazy development to just go we will make a champ unbeatable by certain other champs.
Agree to disagree.
I say it's not lazy at all. I say it's smart. When you have 150 Champs or so, 2-3 more added every month, it's a smart challenge that you can have some that are immune to others. At least when it's carefully designed and limited so that it's not mapping the entire game out for you. Having a few Champs that are untouchable by 2 or 3 others is not a dramatization with the amount of Champs avaiable. What we disagree on is you should be abke to take any Champ into any Fight and win, and that's never been the case. There are various other limitations within the game. This would be another type.
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It's not as much melodramatic as I am trying to argue against people who think this a good idea and complain about this to avoid future champs being introduced who have unhittable mechanics.
What do you do when you can't see what champ you're fighting until you fight them? I.E. Alliance War in the top level? Are you just supposed to LOL I LOSE THAT'S FAIR when you have NO idea that the champ you literally can't beat is sitting there? You can prep for a node, but if it's a 50/50 on the champ, how is that intuitive, fair gameplay?
Corvus - Why would you take a Cosmic against a Mystic champ? Class disadvantage and he doesn't gain any charges against Mystics other than Scarlet Witch as she's classed as an Avenger.
Ghost - You can still beat Maw, you just can't use the normal strategy of getting her guaranteed Critical Hits, she can still beat him.
Elektra - I don't know anyone especially in the higher tier wars, which is where most of these complaints always seem to go to since higher tier players value war more than lower, who will use Elektra. If you know a Tier 5 or higher player that uses Elektra in war a lot, please show me.
Ultron - Same as above. I don't know any Tier 5 player who uses Ultron in war.
Sym Spidey - Same as above, but also it's only his SP2 that's a guaranteed critical.
Gamora - Same as above, but it's her SP1 and SP2.
So out of those, the only ones that are affected in War, especially in the higher tiers, are Corvus who doesn't gain anything from fighting mystics and also has the class disadvantage, and Ghost, who can still fight him just not using the guaranteed critical hit style of play.
So tell me, in War, where is the issue?
Adapt and evolve, or stay the same and stagnate, which is the better of these two evils?
- Fixed an issue where Ultron would no longer be able to hit Ebony Maw after Missing the 5th hit, which has a 100% Critical chance.
The bigger stink made now by as many people as possible hopefully discourages this in the future.
Anyone test this yet?
Not sure why you love seeing that statement clarified so much.
But your cool with that idea. You imagine it's a natural progression of the game. I say it lazy development to just go we will make a champ unbeatable by certain other champs.
Agree to disagree.
Correction her SP3 hit. But sp1 and 2 will miss