Act 6 needs more nerfs

I genuinely think act 6 is the worst content in the game. Before anyone calls me a noob or tells me to get good, I have explored all of the variants (except for the newest one, but I will) and 7.1. I truly believe that act 6 is still genuinely terrible content. I just did the cosmic path in 6.2.5 and I used more items on that single path than I did in the entirety of some of the quests in 7.1.

It’s just so so bad, and I’m contemplating never exploring it. Act 7 was fun and made me want to do it. Act 6 makes me feel like I’m being punished for playing this game.

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Teh_gulla

Of my 40 6 stars, only one of them is tech. If I do abyss and pull a tech catalyst and have to r3 civil warrior, I will probably quit the game.

That’s why I don’t want to do abyss.

Teh_gulla

I’m not scared of abyss. Apparently you guys missed the part where I’ve already completed most of the endgame content.

Of my 40 6 stars, only one is tech. If I go through all of the trouble of doing abyss, and pull a tech catalyst and have to r3 civil warrior, I will probably quit.

Worknprogress

Then sit back and wait until you form the cat you want. Just stop acting like the problem isn't you and the game is what needs to change.

Teh_gulla

I have enough frags to have formed 3 different t5c.

Worknprogress

Well variants and 7.1 are really easy. You haven't done abyss. You're complaining about Act 6. What end game content have you actually finished bc act 6 was pretty much the only challenging thing you've touched and you're complaining about the Fischer Price version of it

Teh_gulla

What is wrong with you

The_Sentry06

Abyss of Approval

IKON

If you do abyss, and get a tech t5cc, you can start tailoring your crystal opening decisions to that. Do you want Ghost or a different tech, basic or featured 6* crystals will be the way to go based on that answer. I'm not sure if you ever buy cavs, but you can start purchasing only Tech featured cavs.

Bad news today will always be better than bad news tomorrow.

Octoberstack

Whilst I tend to avoid generalising in most cases, I think you’re right. Either that, or people are genuinely unaware that Map 7 no longer requires any extra time commitment comparative to Map 6.

danielmath

I mean he’s right....you’re unwilling to do any endgame content (abyss, act 6, map 7)

Teh_gulla

I think you’re missing my point. I’ll get it done. I’m not a scrub. I’m complaining about how it isn’t fun. Act 6 is a chore to do. This is a game. It should be fun.

ItsDamien

Fun is subjective. What you deem fun or not will differ from what others find fun.

While I have no plans on 100% Act 6 any time soon because honestly it's more to do with the energy requirement than the difficulty for me, you cannot objectively say that it is not fun. You can have your subjective opinion that it isn't.

I personally find the SoulsBorne games fun, a lot of people don't because they find them too hard. That doesn't objectively make them bad games because they're too hard for others to complete.

Teh_gulla

You’re 100% right that it’s subjective. I’d be willing to bet that the majority of the community thinks it’s bad, though. As the end consumers of the product, subjective opinions matter.

ItsDamien

But you can't say for certain that the majority of the community thinks it's bad. Yet again that is a subjective opinion with zero factual evidence. Unless you're going to ask every single player who has done Act 6, or is currently doing Act 6, for their feedback on Act 6 as it currently is the best you can do is give an extrapolated answer which isn't representative of an entire community of players.

AouxWoux

Abyss- Don't have an Aegon and specific counters and thousands of units.
Map 7- No Map 7 ally would take in members having less than 12k prestige.
Act 6- Reason explained in the post.

-sixate-

I will never explore Act 6 or any content in the future that is as horrible as Act 6. I explored 7.1 and variants. I looked at a couple paths in Act 6 recently and just quit out. Act 6 doesn't exist to me. I did an Abyss run, but don't have the motivation to explore that mess either.

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Octoberstack

A lot of lower- to mid-prestige alliances are transitioning to Map 7, since the bulk of the T5CC come from Honour Rewards, which are awarded independently of prestige.

So in short, if you can run 7x5 with Epic modifiers, your entire alliance is guaranteed a 10% T5CC crystal per cycle.

Octoberstack

For example, I’m currently in the process of helping one of my old alliances transition to Map 7. So far they’re managing to complete it on all 5 days, running Epic modifiers on 3 of them.

They have 10.2k average prestige, with no minimum prestige requirement to join.

In fact, it’s arguably beneficial for lower prestige alliances to run Map 7 as soon as they are ready to, since AQ map difficulty scales with prestige. So you can still earn your 10% T5CC per week, but running an easier version of Map 7 compared to more competitive alliances.

Teh_gulla

When did I assert that as a fact? I said I’d be willing to bet. I am stating an opinion.

ItsDamien

Fine, if we're going down the pedantic route, you have some degree of certainty if you're willing to make a bet. You're entitled to your opinion, but you are also entitled to be wrong about your opinion too.

Teh_gulla

That is how bets work.

Karatemike415

Act 6 is my favorite content in the game, personally, and it's not even close.

Teh_gulla

Respect your opinion, however I don’t agree.

Side note, thanks for all of the content. I appreciate your channel and the work you do.

TyEdge

It needs the needs that we’re promised to 6.1 and 6.2, because the end of 6.2 blows and keeping your word should mean something.

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Worknprogress

I'm not sure that's completely accurate but regardless, this idea that all content in game should be explored by every player itemless is absurd to me. If consumables were gated behind a pay wall, then sure. They're not though, literally every consumable type is grindable for free. There's a middle ground between needing thousands of units worth of items per path and every path ran itemless.

If people are having to use things they're getting in the game for free to progress, I fail to see the issue with it or why any other player should either.