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Removal of Revive Farming and the Apothecary Discussion

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  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,455 ★★★★★
    Mackey said:

    Mylo_Zyloto said:

    Kabab too scared to answer?!?!?

    If/when they do answer I'd be willing to bet they'll say something in there about not being able to implement the compromise with this next update and that it will be at a later date
    This is what will happen. And then 8.2 will be released.
  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,455 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    Snappin said:

    The best way to protest revive nerfing, is by unsubscribing to the summoner’s sigil. If we collectively hit Kabam in the pocketbook, they will reverse their decision.

    As far as I am aware, there is no way to unsubscribe from the Sigil. You can choose not to renew, but there's no way to make some sort of collective statement by ending it early.

    Boycotts are problematic in general, because they are all or nothing. If you attempt one and it doesn't actually happen, or it fizzles out, the probability that anyone will take the next one seriously drops. As evidenced by the fact that after 12.0, which was itself a failed boycott people got the idea that boycotts actually worked and tried to organize them every time something happened they didn't like. They all fell flat with such definitive regularity that no one takes them seriously anymore.

    Every day thousands of players quit playing the game, and statistically speaking dozens of them will be spenders. For any sort of organized boycott to have any noticeable impact, it has to be sustained and it has to involve orders of magnitude more than regular turnover. When COWhale threatened to quit, he represented several thousand Sigil subscribers worth of revenue, based on his his apparent spending level. And they completely ignored him.

    If you and a thousand of your friends stopped spending, Kabam probably wouldn't notice. If you and a hundred thousand of your friends stopped spending, Kabam probably would notice. Good luck.
    Where have you gotten this data from?
  • MaxGamingMaxGaming Member Posts: 3,211 ★★★★★

  • Eternity0Eternity0 Member Posts: 114 ★★
    So literally no info will be shared? About any changes? You guys will just push it forward? @Kabam Miike
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,723 ★★★★★
    If I had to venture a guess, I'd say they're looking at some options along with the Apothecary, but I don't see this being vetoed. FWIW.
  • DanielRandDanielRand Member Posts: 490 ★★★★
    That’s kind of the problem. None of us have any reliable information if they’re moving forward as is or making an adjustment. Understanding specifics can take time it would just be nice to have an updated sense of direction from someone with inside knowledge.
  • ChobblyChobbly Member Posts: 980 ★★★★
    GroundedWisdom said:

    If I had to venture a guess, I'd say they're looking at some options along with the Apothecary, but I don't see this being vetoed. FWIW.

    I can't either. I think it's highly unlikely (but not impossible) that the changes would be pulled at this stage. Backing out of part of a release so close always risks instability and that's the last thing we want more of.

    My suspicion at this stage is that there'll be a small tweak to the Apothecary, possibly with a level 1 revive on Easy exploration and the revive being upgraded to a level 2 in Hard. Possibly an extra revive in the login calendar maybe, something like that.

    I suspect the backlash was expected but not on the scale it seems to be; the output from the CCP was almost uniformly in disagreement with aspects of the change.

    We'll see what happens.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,723 ★★★★★
    MrFullStop said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Then again, I have no knowledge outside of here.

    Everybody knows that atm, you are Paragon in forum, uncollected in the game
    TB.
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