**UPDATE - iPAD STUCK FLICKERING SCREEN**
The 47.0.1 hotfix to address the issue of freezing & flashing lights on loading screens when trying to enter a fight, along with other smaller issues, is now ready to be downloaded through the App Store on IOS.
More information here.
The 47.0.1 hotfix to address the issue of freezing & flashing lights on loading screens when trying to enter a fight, along with other smaller issues, is now ready to be downloaded through the App Store on IOS.
More information here.
Upcoming Changes to Mystic Dispersion and Dexterity - Discussion Thread
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It is a good analogy, just wrongly applied. When you receive a gift, and you return it, you don't get the original tender back, nor would the person gifting it. You would get store credit for the purchase price, which in this case is loyalty.
No it is not because this exchange is not being initiated by the consumer. This is much more like a manufacturer recalI in which case the reciever of the gift would be entitled to the refund. I understand that some may not be affected by this so they are choosing to play devil's advocate. My point is valid and I am awaiting a response from a Kabam representative on why they would single out those who participated in their gifting events to obtain their cores to recieve a different currency than what was used to purchase.
Do you want the core purchaser or recipient to receive the refund?
Because you didn’t buy them with units on THAT account. It’s not fair to give you basically free units. This is the most fair way to refund these cores.
The person who recieved the core. The gifter would not be entilted to anything extra. Just like in real life if a manufacturer recalled a product. Regardless if gifted or not it was purchased with units and should be refunded the same way. Kabam encourages gifting with these events and is now puting those who participated at a disadvantage because i could have just bought them and would be recieving the unit refund as proper.
In all honesty it would be more ok with me if kabam had refunded everyone loyalty. There would be no issue. Kabam decided to refund based on how it was purchased. All i am asking that If they want to refund the way it was purchased, then actually refund how it was purchased.
It's not like giving free units at all. The person who gifted it paid units right. I'm not sure if you are familiar with the gifting events around Christmas but then tend to cause a gifting commerce. You usually gift on an equal basis. Someone had to pay units whether gifted or not. These items were paid for and they are now being recalled by the manufacturer. I know you may not be affected by this but it is a big deal. We could have just purchased the cores but kabam has an event that encourages gifting.
In no way should the function of gifting change the value of the item. The item was purchased with units
I have been around for both Christmas gifting events as well as the Chinese new year’s ones. You’re missing the point. It would be unfair to give someone units for a gift. It would be impossible to tell if the recipient of the cores gifted back the same exact of items to units. This is the most fair way to do it.
You are missing the point. Units were spent so units should be refunded.it is irrelevant whether or not the gifting was equal. It was purchased with units. Kabam encourages gifting with these events. Those who participated by recieving gifting cores are being penalized by not being refunded in the same currency as purchased. Even if some one gifted a core just 'because' it was still purchased with units. The item is being recalled and they are discriminating against people who use a function put in the game. I'm sure no one who has given a gift would desire or expect its value to change.
If someone was gifted Cores, that's what they were given. Not Units.
They were gifted cores purchased with units. Kabam is recalling their product and refunding peoples mystic cores with the currency they were purchased with the exception of those that came in gifts. 'Why is that' is the question. Why are these people who were gifted being punished. Why are the value of gifts given being changed. Gifting is a function of the game that is further encouraged with events so there should be no change in value. The refund should be as if i myself paid for the cores from the store.
No. When someone makes a purchase of Cores and Gifts them, that's not the same as giving Units.
You are correct it is not the same as gifting units. That is not the matter at hand. They are gifting an item they purchased for you for 30 units. If kabam is recalling the cores and giving people the currency it was purchased with, shouldn't it still be worth the 30 units that were spent to purchase it. I didnt ask for mystic dispersion to change. This is a change and recall that it out of my hands. Shouldn't i get the value of the item at the purchase price just like everyone else. I never would have gifted otherwise so why should i or anyone who recieved a gifted core not be given the same currency as it was purchased with.
No it shouldn't. It's not a Return at a Department Store. It's a Gift. If you're given Cores, that's not the same as you making a purchase.
Correct again! I can tell you are full of insight on this matter. It is not like a return to a department store. It is like a mass recall on a product. I have talked about this in other posts and If you would like more information i suggest going back and reading them. Whether the core was gifted or purchased it cost units and it should be refunded units. The function of gifting should not change the value of the item.
It's not a Recall. They changed the way it functions. They're allowing people the opportunity to have what they put in back. If you yourself received a Gift of Cores, that doesn't entitle you to Units just because they were purchased with Units. If anything, it could POSSIBLY apply that the sender would be entitled to the Units back. However, I'm not sure that's even feasible. I understand quite well what you're saying. Receiving a Gift is not a purchase.
Why would the sender get units? I am not entitled to anything and no one is. The fact that kabam is refunding units to people who purchased with units is why i am advocating for this. Gifted cores were purchased with units. Why is the value being changed to loyalty Just because it was gifted. You are also right that recieving a gift is not a purchase. Some one purchases a gift for someone else to recieve. I'm sure it is the intent of any gifter that the full value of the item stay intact. Kabam is recalling the cores. When someone takes everything back which is what kabam is doing by relocking the masteries and refunding us, that is a recall.
You're on a roll! Gifting is not a returnable process in the game but kabam is making changes that warrant a recall and refund outside of normal game operation. There is no intent to use this as some transfer of units between accounts. This is about the value of an item and why gifts are being valued differently. Units were spent on them and units should be refunded for them. They recieve cores that were purchased With units.
The sender spent Units. Not the recipient. That's not hard to understand.
The spender purchased the item to give to the recipient. The value of that item should be the cost of the sender. It is not that hard to understand. It is a gift that is purchased. The intent of a gift is to give that full value to the recipient. This is kabams recall and change. The cost of the gift should be observed.
No, it shouldn't. It was a Gift. Not a purchase. If someone receives a Gift, that's not the same as receiving the Units used to purchase it. All Gifts are received as-is. It's not a Christmas Present that you can return with Receipt for the full value. If you're the recipient, YOU didn't spend anything.
You keep calling it a Recall, but that's not what it is. It's not as if it's a defective product being recalled. They're making changes to how it functions. In turn, they're allowing people to be compensated and decide for themselves if they want to continue using it or not. The means that someone purchased the Gift does not matter to the person who received it.
I'm over trying to explain it because it's just getting nowhere. It's not the same as you buying the Cores for Units.
Again you are correct it is not like christmas present you can return to the store. It is like a recall when it is being force refunded and changed. They agreed to refund people the way it was purchased. Except if someone purchased it for you as a gift. Why are the gifts changing value. They cost units. Whether the recipient purchased them with units or not that item cost units paid by someone. Its refund should therefore be in units. Yes they are relocking the masteries and changing how it functions . It is a recall they are taking back things and refunding them. The old md was defective and kabam relocked everything and is giving refunds.
Of course it was defective why else would they change it. They decided it was not good for the game and had to be modified ergo it was defective. There was something wrong with itand it unbalanced the game. People who had it gifted to them had someone spend money for them. Would you really give a gift and then be ok with someone arbitrarily devalueing the gift You gave.would you not intend for the person you sent the gift to to be entitled to the full purchase price value.