**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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Except 4/6 of those aren't overlooked.
I don't see them Ranked or used much these days at all.
It could be because of their low PI. I'm not going to argue the fact that CB, CM, YJ and Ultron have faded into the background, but I would hardly say they are overlooked.
In fact, I still see Ultrons and YJs in AW.
I don't see them Ranked or used much these days at all. [/quote]
Really? Crossbones is still highly viable. Other champions simply out utility him and where r4 is becoming “easier” to get but still rare you’ll naturally see more Blade/GP/KM in profiles or in PvP as there are champs straight better than him 9.9 times out of 10. I’m also sure that Iceman/Proxima/Curvus and recently Venom hurt him a bit as well but that’s harder to prove
I’ll show you my profile with r4 Ultron. He competes for resources directly with SL and Sparky and for utility directly with Iceman. Again it took 2 god tiers and Nebula mostly killing 546 and having Proxy synergy to even push him down THIS far. Not overlooked just again faces a LOT of competition.
The Marvel Twins are only 100% outclassed by Hyperion and Medusa (and Black Bolt on a technicality that his wife holds his hand). AGAIN, they haven’t lost anything not has anything been added that makes it harder for them it’s just that they face literal GODS! Don’t forget this is COSMIC class. Drax getting “fixed” drastically puts him below then again, Angela/Hela have timing to consider as well as poison vulnerable, Proxy/Hiemdal are specific counters to a VERY amazing defender as well as Proxy being a LOL option, Carnage is another NEW LOL option, Venom has different utility, and Corvus is a special case. In terms of 1-on-1 only 2.5 can actually push her down and she still competes with Hiemdal/Angela/Hela in Damage while keeping her own utility, Venom is a different kind of damage&utility, and then she also directly competes with 2 LOL options for resources. But a backup for Hyperion directly and indirectly for Medusa (who technically is mostly a different kind of damage unless we involved her husband as well as packing very great utility) she’s still amazing. The only real issue is that of what Crossbones deals with except MUCH worse
YJ… again I was pushing it by saying he was a maybe a soft-check to IMIW but you saying he can go against Hyperion shows you’re actually joking. Unless you’re in Heroic or pre-maestro (which has no Hyperions) shows as much. 300% Sp1 OR a free-opening which most AI will usually eat the stun. Which in the case of Hyperion just means you die to te Sp3 only a single combo later. Was it worth it? Never!
Cyclops… inferior to even Colossus thanks to Omega. I can at least say that both magneto are mildly annoying defenders and that OML is decent with drawn out fights and Sabertooth helping him and NC is a terror no matter if used or against. Cyclops having an unboosted critical after losing his the negative armor interactions took him from “eh” to “meh”. ROCKET AND FIXIT also have guaranteed crits with their combo meters. But Fixit again has no damage and Rocket is barely better than the both of them through naturally higher base attacj and his Sp2 that has a high base damage modifier. Hell even Karnak is better thanks to the utility he brings and he’s still trash
Jane… at least she’s better than cyclops. Her boosted crits are slightly better than Cyclops as she can at least abuse them way more often. But those are generally soft hits overall and her chain stun lacks:
Locks, Kills, Safety. It’s a glorified “easy bait” which again any decent player shouldn’t worry about and use a champion that doesn’t have her training wheels on.
55 hit difference you have wat appears to be a r3 WS <6000Pi
compared to a r5 SL almost 10000Pi
If Ws is only 55 hits less that is amazing hats off to WS....... that sahow WS has amazing damage potential. Makes me think a r5 WS may be able to do it less hits....
You're not exactly welcoming discussion yourself.
No-one said she was bad; but she's definitely mid-tier behind Hypes, Corvus, Medusa, arguably behind Angela, Venom Hela, Proxima and so on. That's exactly the scenario you were talking about with Blade and Gwenpool overshadowing the other Skill champions.
Can you explain this statement, GW? To my knowledge, that's never been part of his power set. Unless you're talking about some synergy I'm unaware of. Corvus and Ghost have guaranteed crits. Cyclops doesn't - he has Precision buffs, and he can crit through a block. That's not the same.
From my perspective, you could make a better case for Blue Cyclops being overlooked - he has passive power gain, his armour breaks last long enough to actually be useful, and his Sig can make his beam attacks Unblockable. All round better than Red Cyclops, I'd say.
I wasn’t arguing he was 😅
I was trying to see how well he stacked up to Star Lord and considering outside of RoL/LoL SL never really gets to 100 hits anyways WS actually keeps up perfectly in step
i got ultron and cm at rank 4 and i use them both ultron was one of my act 5 MVPS
I'm talking overall. I'm sure the same could be said of many Champs. Someone Ranks them and uses them. I don't see many used of the list I mentioned anymore.
The OP specified they didn't want the Thread to become a situation where people were claiming their views were more overlooked than others, and that's exactly what it is turning into, on their own part, so I'm out.