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PLEASE either nerf Hyperion or give Strange his power gain back
CammonRo
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Total double standard. Hyperion gains power unlike anyone else in the whole game. But Doctor Strange was too OP? Now you've made DS - formerly one of the most powerful champs in the game - feeble and weak. I don't buy the reasoning on it, think the way it was handled was done very poorly and I think something needs to change here. Who agrees?
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Strange was created with low base stats and amazing abilities. PI is based on base stats, which is why he has low PI. His abilities were nerfed to mediocre at best, but his base stats weren't brought up at all. Now he's a sucky champ with a mediocre ability use. His Armor is about as good as Iron Man's, which is bad. His Fury is about as good as Winter Soldier's, which is bad. His Regeneration is okay, but a champ like Wolverine or X-23 could easily outdo him. Counterspell is okay, but it's not as good as Nullify like SW has. He's mediocre in all his abilities, but that's where he's supposed to excel. It's be like if you took Wolverine and made his Regen trigger half as often, or made Spider-Man evade half as much, or made Magik's Limbo trigger only on SP3 moves. They'd all suck. You can't take the only good part of a champ and make it bad, yet expect people to keep using them. Kabam needs to avoid doing that in the future, and fix the times they did it in the past.
So #MakeDoctorStrangegreatagain
Yeah exactly. It makes no sense. That's my whole point.
I'm sure no one wants to hear it but based on past precedent, honestly, I will not be surprised in the least if they nerf Hyperion within a year. Which makes me not want to spend on this game for the next generation of supposed "great champs".
Fixing characters like DS would go a long way towards restoring some of that trust. (Let's not forget how heavily Strange was marketed only months before the nerf.)
Also having a hard time understanding why B and C-list characters are outshining the classic iconic characters in almost every way. The contest just feels "off" to me because of it. The only positive I've seen in that area is Hulk's recent elevation in status. Now THAT made sense.
I don't get it either. Many unknown and unpowerful champs outshine the amazing ones. Why is Phoenix worse than Gwenpool? Why is Luke Cage worse than Red Hulk? Why is Carnage worse than Rocket Raccoon? This stuff doesn't make sense. If Kabam is going to make some champs awesome and some horrible, it needs to at least be flipped. But Kabam can't nerf anyone, because then we'll all lose our minds. Everyone needs to be at least usuable. The worst champ, with their current usefulness, should be someone like Gamora. She's got good crit damage and an amazing Awakened Ability, but is by no means great. No one should be much worse than that. Instead, we have champs with bad base stats and bad abilities, such as Strange and Spidergwen, running rampant. Something needs to change.
Well said.
And, for the record, I agree. Nerfing is the worst. I'd much rather see weak champs improved than existing strong champs intentionally weakened.
Otherwise we'll end up with another Dr. Strange case.
Have you checked out youtube or any other streaming service to see how to beat Hyperion without losing massive amounts of health? If you do that I guarantee you will no longer fear his power gain.
Hyperion has two defining characteristics. Increased Power Gain, and stackable Incinerate. Both of which can be countered with the right Champs and skill. It is not reasonable to say that Hyperion shouldn't have PG because Strange lost his. Two different Champs, two different mechanics at play. PG is not the only aspect or reason for the nerf.
So you're fine with him being awful as he is?
That's not what I said. The topic was that Strange should have Power Gain because Hyperion does. Apples and oranges.
The topic was that Strange was nerfed for his Power Gain but Hyperion gets to run free. I don't necessarily agree with that, but you made it sound like, with all his aspects, he DESERVED the nerf.
Strange wasn't nerfed for his PG. That's what you guys are missing.
I don't think he was either. I'm just wondering whether you thought he deserved the nerf or not. His PG was never that good.
He was nerfed cause they noticed that he was being used by so many people for AQ/AW. The classic "we don't want this game to be about one champ or certain teams" defense.
And yes, I am still a little salty about it.
And then they make content where you pretty much have to have ability reduction to survive. Because that's not contradictory.
I mean, they could've nerfed him a bit, I agree, but I feel like this was WAY over the top. He was one of the best, yet now his in the bottom third of champs. You don't think that was overkill?
The more complex a Champ's Buffs, the lower their Base Stats and output will be. Otherwise, they become OP. For example, Carnage. If his Stats were raised given the complexity of his existing Buffs, he would become OP. That's why they do it. To maintain balance while still keeping the integrity of their mechanics.
You didn't answer my question. DS went from one end of the spectrum to the other. Awesome to awful. Do you think that was too far or not?
I've already answered. The severity of it was necessary for what they had to do. He's not awful. That's subjective. He's just not what he was. That was the whole point.