Symbiote Supreme Bugs

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  • buffajrbuffajr Posts: 175
    Over a month since a response to most of the bugs shown in the video
  • I'm still checking in here every few days. Probably got relegated to some list of things they need to fix but never have time to get to. Also I'm worried that whoever tested it and got "different results" doesn't understand the issue.
  • buffajrbuffajr Posts: 175
    any update on this one?
  • buffajrbuffajr Posts: 175
    Anything?
  • becauseicantbecauseicant Posts: 270
    Love the dedication man, keep the torch burning :)
  • EakomoEakomo Posts: 23
    the stagger with parry i've noticed only works some of the time,
    and the issue with doctor vodoo is still a thing and is very weird
  • JMORG1111JMORG1111 Posts: 6
    It's been 3 months since this was brought up. Hopefully it gets fixed soon. He's still a great champ, but he isn't working as intended (or advertised).
  • webtswxwebtswx Posts: 186
    he's still bugged.

    when I use sym supreme against king groot, venom, corvus, howard the duck, etc., he nullifies their buffs at the start of the fight, but doesnt inflict any damage

    interesting though, when it comes to the opposite, when I use corvus, king groot, venoma against sym supreme, I take massive amount of damage at the start of the fight

    @Kabam Miike where's the update on this?
  • webtswxwebtswx Posts: 186




    @Kabam Zibiit

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    0:36 - 0:50 6 parries during Null's Shadow without a single stagger

    1:03 - 1:23 Level 3 doesn't refresh active blessing

    2:35 - 2:40 2 parries during Null's Shadow don't trigger stagger

    3:00 - 3:30 Level 3 doesn't refresh active blessing

    4:25 - 4:40 2 parries during Null's Shadow don't trigger stagger

    5:00 - 5:30 Level 3 doesn't refresh active blessing



    5:51 Vs Unst. Colossus - Start of match unstoppable is nullified and damage is done (correct)

    6:14 Vs Dr.Voodoo - Start of match regen is nullified but no damage is done (bug)

    6:35 Vs Civil Warrior - Start of match armor ups are nullified and damage is done (correct)

    7:02 Vs Howard The Duck - Start of match armor ups are nullified but no damage is done (bug)

    8:02 Vs Venom - Start of match buffs are not nullified at all (bug)


    Hey there, thanks for the video! We've been taking a look into some of this and while we are still looking into some of what you mentioned, we do have some info. First, we are still investigating the issues you reported with Nullifying buffs at the start of the fight. Second, our investigations into Stagger were giving different results than what you shared in your video, but we have passed along the footage you sent in for further review.



    Lastly, in regards to refreshing the blessings on SP3, the SP3 is actually adding a new stack of each blessing, which stacks with the one that is already active. The oldest stack will expire first, but the second stack will still have the same amount of time on it as the other blessings added by the SP3, so it will be active for the same amount of time as the others. If you slow down the video from about 1:18-1:22, you can actually see this happening.



    @Kabam Zibiit what's the update on this "investigation" of yours 3 months ago, specifically nullifying buffs at the start of the fight without inflicting any damage?
  • Hey there, we're still looking into these issues and will update everyone here once we have more updates on them. For those of you who are experiencing these issues, could you please let us know what game mode/quest you experienced these issues in, if there were any node buffs active for that fight, what device you're using, and what version of your OS you are using if you have not posted those already?
  • DrZolaDrZola Posts: 2,163
    edited April 18
    Will give it a try...

    Using XS and iOS 12.2.

    Noticed it in duel mode and in EQ. Champs faced include Venom and Howard in duel mode, Annihilus and others in EQ. For duel
    mode, no buffs or nodes active and for EQ Ch3 the relevant buffs and nodes active.

    This thread showcases some video of SS issues...

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/134535/a-very-interesting-observation-about-symbiote-supreme-as-well-as-kabam#latest

    Dr. Zola
  • DrZolaDrZola Posts: 2,163
    edited April 18
    Schmurgle said:

    I recently took my Symbiote Supreme to 5/65 and have noticed a few things with him as well.



    From what I can tell, Symbiote Supreme's Chthon's Cunning phase is not working properly at the start of fights.

    From his spotlight:

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    I've been playing around with him a lot and have noticed that at the beginning of the fight he doesn't deal any damage when nullifying the enemy buffs, and he also doesn't gain any genetic potential either. He does seem to consistently strip their buffs at the start, but he doesn't deal the nullify damage. It came to my attention recently when fighting a Sym. Supreme in variant and he immediately nullified my Voodoo's regen and dealt almost 5k damage. I thought it was strange because I knew that wasn't happening for me when I was playing with Sym. Supreme. However, according to his abilities and the Developer Notes in the spotlight, it seems he is indeed supposed to be nullifying their buffs and dealing that damage at the start of the fight, as he is triggering Chthon's Cunning.



    I've also experienced the inconsistency with staggers applying from parries while in Null's Shadows and the current blessing not resetting after using an L3.

    The question I have is whether he should always start at 0 Genetic Potential—otherwise, there’s no way he deal stagger damage at the start of the fight per the Dev’s comment.

    However, there are instances of the AI playing SS dealing instant stagger damage at the start of the fight—why does this happen ?

    There’s at least one more thread on SS here and in General Discussion. It appears the team did some testing on their own and were unable to duplicate the issue (this is a recurring theme).

    It would seem either the Dev comment is flat wrong (in which case SS dealing heavy damage at the fight start on buffed champs is a bug) or there should be damage from stagger at the start of the fight (mine isn’t, which would also imply a bug). Either way, there should at a minimum be accumulation of Genetic Potential from staggering buffs at the start of the fight.

    Guidance, please, and soon Game Team.

    Dr. Zola
  • becauseicantbecauseicant Posts: 270
    edited April 19
    OnePlus 3
    Android 8.0.0
    OxygenOS 5.0.8

    Bugs experienced:
    1. Performing a Parry during Null's Shadow does not place a Stagger Passive 100% of the time as stated in his ability description. Note that the ability specifically says the chance is raised TO 100% and not BY 100%. That's a very important distinction.
    2. Inconsistent behavior from his start of the fight nullify. Against some champions he removes their starting buffs and procs MD and gains genetic potential, against others he only removes the buffs and does not proc MD or gain genetic potential, and finally against others he does not remove their starting buffs at all. Enemy champions tested include UC, Juggernaut, Venom, Howard the Duck, Red Skull, Dr.Voodoo.

    Game modes:
    Tested in ROL, duels, and event quests.

    Champion:
    6* Symbiote Supreme, 2/35, Unduped, Using Mystic Dispersion 3/5
  • webtswxwebtswx Posts: 186
    found another one:

    i was testing SS against the resistor node in epic bounty. after SS activate SP3, all buffs were removed but no damage was dealt.

    can you add this one to the sea of existing SS bugs? thanks @Kabam Zibiit
  • DrZolaDrZola Posts: 2,163
    webtswx said:

    found another one:

    i was testing SS against the resistor node in epic bounty. after SS activate SP3, all buffs were removed but no damage was dealt.

    can you add this one to the sea of existing SS bugs? thanks @Kabam Zibiit

    I tested the same, against Heimdall on Resistor. Dropping Sp3 on him with 100 Genetic Potential with his 5-6 Armor Up buffs produced a red number after the Sp3 that looked directionally correct, but I’m not sure his health bar moved any. Obviously, SS Sp3 won’t affect the massive passive effects (cheap), but it should deal a fair amount of damage based on the buffs with white outlines.

    I can’t capture on video @webtswx — can you and post here?

    Thanks
    Dr. Zola
  • Ultra8529Ultra8529 Posts: 138
    Symb supreme's short dash back gets me hit before I can even put up my block. I've experienced this several times on this month's EQ against the Hela boss in particular. Hit on her block and dash back makes me get hit immediately despite me trying to block immediately. Same goes when i do a 5 combo on her ending with a medium attack.
  • DrZolaDrZola Posts: 2,163
    @webtswx I suppose other items take priority, but as someone who for whatever reason has so few recently released champs, I would greatly appreciate if the team could get SymSup working as described in his profile.

    He’s a terrific champ for some game modes, but far from best in game overall (especially with the proliferation of passive effects everywhere).

    So it’s not like we are asking for fixes to already super-powered champs like Domino, Corvus, CapIW, OR, Ghost. Just get him up and performing like he’s supposed to be.

    And provide an update.

    Dr. Zola
  • EakomoEakomo Posts: 23
    i've had fights against some nodes with buffs and with some champions, and in some cases ss fails to nullify the buff at the start and sometimes he doesn't do damage
  • Ultra8529Ultra8529 Posts: 138
    Ultra8529 said:

    Symb supreme's short dash back gets me hit before I can even put up my block. I've experienced this several times on this month's EQ against the Hela boss in particular. Hit on her block and dash back makes me get hit immediately despite me trying to block immediately. Same goes when i do a 5 combo on her ending with a medium attack.

    This is still happening for me. Hela, X23, rocket counting among the champs that this is happening for Symb
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