Is the “Force of Will” node bugged?
My_Superior
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Force of Will
“This defender is immune to Ability Accuracy Modification.”
I understand that Concussions should not reduce ability accuracy but why should the defender be entirely immune to the debuff? If you think about it, the brain takes damage just like any other body part regardless of your “force of will.” Being immune to Concussion ruins champs like Taskmaster who rely on them to deal decent damage; this role is already filled by nodes like Debuff Immunity, Masochism, and that other one I can’t remember. Master of Tasks my @#%!
“This defender is immune to Ability Accuracy Modification.”
I understand that Concussions should not reduce ability accuracy but why should the defender be entirely immune to the debuff? If you think about it, the brain takes damage just like any other body part regardless of your “force of will.” Being immune to Concussion ruins champs like Taskmaster who rely on them to deal decent damage; this role is already filled by nodes like Debuff Immunity, Masochism, and that other one I can’t remember. Master of Tasks my @#%!
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Yeah, Blade shuts down mephistos regen even though he is "ability accuracy immune
No, blade can ignore dimensional beings with Ability accuracy immunities.
FYI i have finished variant and this month uncollected. Still think the node is a giant garbage
I see it but it doesn’t affect anything to be honest. I mean, yes, abilities that should proc will proc instead of being prevented.. but that’s the point right? The integrity of the designed fight should be maintained instead of being made easier by cheap counters that prevent the fight from doing what it should be doing.
Then probably bringing her into the fight was a mistake in the first place?
I mean, using Elektra against a debuff immune OG Spidey isn’t really a good attacker choice right?
how is this so?
petrify debuff should work.
it is not reducing the ability accuracy.
the debuff is merely reducing the effectivness of the ability.
two different things IMO.
AAR = reduce the chance of abilities triggering.
not the same as modifying wat they do.
So a response from a mod would be great. Is Force of will node only triggered against blade? Cause I sure as damn didn’t have any abilities reduced when I used Blade vs diablo.
Referring to this.
I don't think you get what I meant.
What you're saying is when you're using Elektra against any champion that doesn't allow her to activate any debuffs, it doesn't seem fair. You're forgetting that just by having her "not allowed to activate any debuffs" i.e. debuff immune, Elektra herself was a bad matchup to bring in.
Similarly, when an opponent has a "Force of Will" node on, this does not allow his ability accuracy to be decreased. This also means, if your game plan was to bring a champ that relies on reducing the opponent's ability accuracy in order to counter the defender into the fight, that probably isn't a good idea as well.
There are already nodes like buffet that prevent champs from gaining buffs
He just wants the Concussion Debuff to be applied, but not have any affect as per Force of Will, rather than the opponent be immune to the debuff itself due to the node. So it would be a debuff version of DV's loas; does nothing, but counts for another ability (TM's 'beast' mode).
TM is the opposite. He needs to trigger concussions in order to trigger the secondary part of his ability.
I understand what you’re saying. What I mean is that, if that were the case, wouldn’t he be a bad choice as an attacker to use against that node? In other words, use someone else.
One presumes he used TM against him first, only to discover in the fight itself that FoW did not even allow a concussion debuff to be placed by TM. Until you know how FoW works, and it’s new enough that this may be his first time using TM vs it, it sucks to discover it too late. He likely won’t be using TM *more*, but is annoyed he had to find out the hard way how those two interacted, and is this venting his frustration here.
Now, if he keeps taking TM vs FoW nodes now that he knows, then questions could be raised about his choice of champ =P
Yeah I understand. But that’s how the game works right? Experimentation. And that’s why experience is so important.
It’s the same as bringing an Iceman into an OG Spidey on a buffet node, only to realize the moment Ice Armor forms it gets removed by buffet and that Spidey is a life gaining machine.
Tbh, Kabam can’t be blamed for such interactions that the player did not think of.
You apparently have issues.
And I only troll people who deserve to be trolled, like scrubs who think they’re really good and only know how to complain instead of finding ways to handle the situation.
If you take it to be one, that’s on you. Apparently, you have issues.