All it does is make people hoard crystal shards until the last minute. This has never been the intention with anything in the game, and we have made this known throughout the History of the game many times. This is not a healthy behaviour for the game.
Little bit of clarification here, but "unhealthy behaviour" is in reference to Unhealthy for the Game. This has been something we've said for years, and have made changes based on many times. We will still be giving the list of Champions in the next featured 5-Star Crystal, but will not be doing so going forward.
So wait a second. My hoarding crystals is unhealthy for the game?
It wasn’t unhealthy when you all re-released the Blade crystal and also put out 5* shard offers. It wasn’t unhealthy when god tier champs were in the featured and offers for shards were around. It wasn’t unhealthy to hoard crystals ever.
Why does my holding out for crystals/champs I want hurt the game at all? There is nothing in the game that breaks or becomes unhealthy when people have a large stash of crystal shards. Nothing.
You are basically sitting there telling everyone who hoards crystals that it’s an unhealthy behavior. Why? You can’t jist say that and not give us a reason as to why that is. What’s so unhealthy about chasing crystals that have a desired champ or a higher chance at champ we need/want?
This game has always been about “free will” “choices” “personal decisions”. You keep telling us to do what we want, go after the champs we want, rank and level the champs we want. But now you’re telling us that is unhealthy? Now you’re telling us that we don’t get to make informed decisions anymore? And without a reason?
Little bit of clarification here, but "unhealthy behaviour" is in reference to Unhealthy for the Game. This has been something we've said for years, and have made changes based on many times. We will still be giving the list of Champions in the next featured 5-Star Crystal, but will not be doing so going forward.
Hoarding is also 100% an unhealthy behavior, and is classified as a mental disorder by the medical community.
Little bit of clarification here, but "unhealthy behaviour" is in reference to Unhealthy for the Game. This has been something we've said for years, and have made changes based on many times. We will still be giving the list of Champions in the next featured 5-Star Crystal, but will not be doing so going forward.
Players: This is fun.
Kabam: That’s the wrong kind of fun. It’s unhealthy. Stop.
Players: I’ll make a forum post.
Kabam: *deleted*
(Attempt number 2. Let’s see how fast until I’m censored again 😒)
It’ll be havok, sinister, diablo, thing, mcu CM, fury. 1-2 pretty good champs. The rest garbage champs that make me rethink my choice to save shards.
On ‘unhealthy behavior’, it seems kabam is constantly trying to remove any automomy or free choice in strategy/roster building. If they don’t want us to try and get champs we want or use discretion in how we use our resources, then why not just assign us champs. These comments make think kabam doesn’t want us to get excited for new champ and that we should equally happy with pulling KK as pulling Blade.
I wonder what would happen if everyone held every single 5*/6* shard crystals they have/will get for 3 months. I wonder how the game will break and become unhealthy.....
Alright guys, just like the new Dungeons and Featured 6-Star Crystals, we want to move away from announcing them in advance, but I will talk to the team about doing it one last time... I make no promises, but hold on for a bit.
Why do you want to move away from it? What benefit is there? All it does is interrupt our ability to plan what to do with shards/rank ups. Can you please explain the reasoning behind delaying the announcements?
All it does is make people hoard crystal shards until the last minute. This has never been the intention with anything in the game, and we have made this known throughout the History of the game many times. This is not a healthy behaviour for the game.
SO?! How people build up shards and decide whether to hold onto them or pop them as soon as they hit 10K is THEIR CHOICE. If there is a new champ being added ot the crystal that they want, it's THEIR CHOICE if they save and wait for that.
Kabam is now teliing us HOW to play the game their way? This just got beyond a joke.
Little bit of clarification here, but "unhealthy behaviour" is in reference to Unhealthy for the Game. This has been something we've said for years, and have made changes based on many times. We will still be giving the list of Champions in the next featured 5-Star Crystal, but will not be doing so going forward.
Hoarding is also 100% an unhealthy behavior, and is classified as a mental disorder by the medical community.
There is a difference between horsing crystals for a payoff and hoarding newspapers over 30 years making it impossible to move around your house.
I don't understand. I earned shards from investing my time in game. It's my wish when to buy crystals. Hoard or spend is my decision entirely. Now game team wants to control that too? It's like I earn money in life. It's my wish when I buy something. When I buy something then I need to plan it that in which way I'm using my money effectively. It's same here. This is so crazy. Frankly.
Little bit of clarification here, but "unhealthy behaviour" is in reference to Unhealthy for the Game. This has been something we've said for years, and have made changes based on many times. We will still be giving the list of Champions in the next featured 5-Star Crystal, but will not be doing so going forward.
Please explain the reasoning for bringing back the Blade feature crystal as a celebration and announcing it one month in advance.
be careful you'll get banned for pointing out Kabam hypocrisy
Alright guys, just like the new Dungeons and Featured 6-Star Crystals, we want to move away from announcing them in advance, but I will talk to the team about doing it one last time... I make no promises, but hold on for a bit.
I often defend Kabam on these forums, but I see no benefit in this change. I think many of us would like to know whether to open crystals now or wait a week, and with the increase in champ requirements, these decisions are even more crucial. Doesn't seem like the hardest thing for Kabam to do for us.
You already know ~half the champions in the pool, if you are holding out to know what the other half is I am not sure the point. Most of the time people go for the new champions not the old.
Next thing kabam is going to tell us is that it’s unhealthy for the game to hoard units or potions and that we should strive to be at a healthy number of 0 at all times.
I think I understand where the game team is coming from. Clearly they put a lot of time and thought into creating the feature crystals, which have the best new champs, cost more shards to purchase, and only change every few months. Obviously they don’t want players to save up and buy these crystals, as it would be unhealthy for the game. All cleared up.
Little bit of clarification here, but "unhealthy behaviour" is in reference to Unhealthy for the Game. This has been something we've said for years, and have made changes based on many times. We will still be giving the list of Champions in the next featured 5-Star Crystal, but will not be doing so going forward.
Another thing y'all have said for years is that the team didn't want us to be forced to use specific champs for quests, yet that's been the majority of the player experience lately. This is a major concern of mine. It really makes me question the team's self-reported commitment to improve clarity with the player base
I don't understand. I earned shards from investing my time in game. It's my wish when to buy crystals. Hoard or spend is my decision entirely. Now game team wants to control that too? It's like I earn money in life. It's my wish when I buy something. When I buy something then I need to plan it that in which way I'm using my money effectively. It's same here. This is so crazy. Frankly.
And you're still welcome to spend your Crystal Shards however you would like! We're just not going to be putting out the list of Champions you can get in advance anymore. This is common in many games, but we want to encourage people to take a chance on what is available now, or decide if they want to wait for something else.
For all we know, maybe people will decide to hoard more and then we'll make the choice to reverse this decision, but we won't know until we try.
One thing that somebody brought up here that I am going to take back to the game team is that somethings have changed lately, and that's the importance of certain Champions to counter certain challenges or as keys to certain content, like Back Issues #1.
(1) Make a shards cap and allow overflow to go into stash with an expiry. (This will make the community mad, they’ll get over it just like they do with everything else...)
(2) Make a daily purchase cap, just like the one used with the Loyalty and Alliance Crystal. (This will make big spenders mad but it will allow a bit more balance in the game between the rich and the average players.) [*Warning* this may also make the CEO mad too. Less daily dollars from some, but they will still stick around to buy more tomorrow anyway.]
These are merely suggestions to help maintain the Health and Integrity of the game, fairly, amongst all of the community, not just the top spenders.
I maintain being impartial to whatever decision is made.
Hey @Kabam Miike here's an idea: why don't you guys release a 5* featured crystal without featured champs inside? That will prevent people from hoarding since they mostly do that for those featured champs. Problem solved!
Alright guys, just like the new Dungeons and Featured 6-Star Crystals, we want to move away from announcing them in advance, but I will talk to the team about doing it one last time... I make no promises, but hold on for a bit.
I often defend Kabam on these forums, but I see no benefit in this change. I think many of us would like to know whether to open crystals now or wait a week, and with the increase in champ requirements, these decisions are even more crucial. Doesn't seem like the hardest thing for Kabam to do for us.
You already know ~half the champions in the pool, if you are holding out to know what the other half is I am not sure the point. Most of the time people go for the new champions not the old.
We know 25% of the pool. And some of us are still looking for older champs like Hyperion, Medusa, Doctor Voodo, Quake, etc. So it is important to know the older champs.
Most people don’t want to hoard. People hoard because this game is so stingy with certain rank up materials and incredibly luck based on pulls. Combine that with the need to acquire certain champs to clear content and the developer constantly claiming that no champs are better than others and effectively and you have made this recipe REQUIRING player to hoard.
Now also factor in the tiny stash limit on potions and catalysts and that statement is laughable. I don’t even have enough gold to use all my cats in a timely fashion. I don’t use potions fast enough to not hoard my hourly daily crystals. I will need those someday in hard content so yes I hoard and yes I’ll hoard my t4cc crystals and all other crystals.
We don’t want to see 1000+ crystals available but we are forced to because if we open those materials and resources are essentially trash especially with the trade in value for gold so poor.
I don't understand. I earned shards from investing my time in game. It's my wish when to buy crystals. Hoard or spend is my decision entirely. Now game team wants to control that too? It's like I earn money in life. It's my wish when I buy something. When I buy something then I need to plan it that in which way I'm using my money effectively. It's same here. This is so crazy. Frankly.
And you're still welcome to spend your Crystal Shards however you would like! We're just not going to be putting out the list of Champions you can get in advance anymore. This is common in many games, but we want to encourage people to take a chance on what is available now, or decide if they want to wait for something else.
For all we know, maybe people will decide to hoard more and then we'll make the choice to reverse this decision, but we won't know until we try.
One thing that somebody brought up here that I am going to take back to the game team is that somethings have changed lately, and that's the importance of certain Champions to counter certain challenges or as keys to certain content, like Back Issues #1.
I think we have that data before the featured 5 star came out. Everyone was still hoarding for the next attempt at the feature they wanted. You have the data for all this already.
Alright guys, just like the new Dungeons and Featured 6-Star Crystals, we want to move away from announcing them in advance, but I will talk to the team about doing it one last time... I make no promises, but hold on for a bit.
I often defend Kabam on these forums, but I see no benefit in this change. I think many of us would like to know whether to open crystals now or wait a week, and with the increase in champ requirements, these decisions are even more crucial. Doesn't seem like the hardest thing for Kabam to do for us.
You already know ~half the champions in the pool, if you are holding out to know what the other half is I am not sure the point. Most of the time people go for the new champions not the old.
I’m sure that a lot of people do go for the featured crystals just for the new champs, but there are just as many, if not more, that go for the featured crystals not exclusively to try for the new champs, but to try for the best chance at a useful champ they don’t already have. Without knowing the rest of the pool, you don’t know just how many useful champs the pool has for you depending on what kind of utility your roster’s missing and which champs you already have.
I don't understand. I earned shards from investing my time in game. It's my wish when to buy crystals. Hoard or spend is my decision entirely. Now game team wants to control that too? It's like I earn money in life. It's my wish when I buy something. When I buy something then I need to plan it that in which way I'm using my money effectively. It's same here. This is so crazy. Frankly.
And you're still welcome to spend your Crystal Shards however you would like! We're just not going to be putting out the list of Champions you can get in advance anymore. This is common in many games, but we want to encourage people to take a chance on what is available now, or decide if they want to wait for something else.
For all we know, maybe people will decide to hoard more and then we'll make the choice to reverse this decision, but we won't know until we try.
One thing that somebody brought up here that I am going to take back to the game team is that somethings have changed lately, and that's the importance of certain Champions to counter certain challenges or as keys to certain content, like Back Issues #1.
Take a chance...? ...at getting the same lousy champs multiple times because the game leaves that low hanging fruit of possibly getting one of the newer champs that would help clear the games content.
I can understand why people do it (and have been annoyed seeing the same money-spenders getting the champ while others get the shaft) but I feel you bringing in the unhealthy bit is going to cause people to hoard out of spite
I don't understand. I earned shards from investing my time in game. It's my wish when to buy crystals. Hoard or spend is my decision entirely. Now game team wants to control that too? It's like I earn money in life. It's my wish when I buy something. When I buy something then I need to plan it that in which way I'm using my money effectively. It's same here. This is so crazy. Frankly.
And you're still welcome to spend your Crystal Shards however you would like! We're just not going to be putting out the list of Champions you can get in advance anymore. This is common in many games, but we want to encourage people to take a chance on what is available now, or decide if they want to wait for something else.
For all we know, maybe people will decide to hoard more and then we'll make the choice to reverse this decision, but we won't know until we try.
One thing that somebody brought up here that I am going to take back to the game team is that somethings have changed lately, and that's the importance of certain Champions to counter certain challenges or as keys to certain content, like Back Issues #1.
Okay you have so much hates but that fair either becasse not you ther make the decision but completely unfair for lower tier. Becasse ther so many bad one and ther can make a **** with most 5 star and 6 champ make them usfell then we might also stop hoerad them and suggest to can we get more 5 star shard from UC mode has Ben long time sims that luach so migt need a few upgrades I’m find if. Tier5 stay the same even giv rank2 gym maybe aside from variant lvl becasse that need many champ becasse that endgame contest but uc is kind Ben mid tier lvl from them ther hav cler 5.2.
I don't understand. I earned shards from investing my time in game. It's my wish when to buy crystals. Hoard or spend is my decision entirely. Now game team wants to control that too? It's like I earn money in life. It's my wish when I buy something. When I buy something then I need to plan it that in which way I'm using my money effectively. It's same here. This is so crazy. Frankly.
And you're still welcome to spend your Crystal Shards however you would like! We're just not going to be putting out the list of Champions you can get in advance anymore. This is common in many games, but we want to encourage people to take a chance on what is available now, or decide if they want to wait for something else.
For all we know, maybe people will decide to hoard more and then we'll make the choice to reverse this decision, but we won't know until we try.
One thing that somebody brought up here that I am going to take back to the game team is that somethings have changed lately, and that's the importance of certain Champions to counter certain challenges or as keys to certain content, like Back Issues #1.
So, y’all are simply cancelling the announcement and nothing else is changing? Meaning we still know the 6 newest champs come out every 84 days, and now we just won’t know which garbage filler champs will be thrown in with them?
We know 25% of the pool. And some of us are still looking for older champs like Hyperion, Medusa, Doctor Voodo, Quake, etc. So it is important to know the older champs.
The idea is that those champs are already available now in the basic so you could theoretically pop a crystal and have that champ immediately instead of hoarding for months to maybe get them.
We know 25% of the pool. And some of us are still looking for older champs like Hyperion, Medusa, Doctor Voodo, Quake, etc. So it is important to know the older champs.
The idea is that those champs are already available now in the basic so you could theoretically pop a crystal and have that champ immediately instead of hoarding for months to maybe get them.
There’s a big difference between pulling a specific champ out of a pool of 24 and pulling that same champ out of a pool of 100+ and growing.
Everybody is totally missing the point. If you know what’s coming in the next feature, you can plan for it. The more you can plan, the more informed decisions you can make and the less impulse buying you have to do. Obviously anything that helps the player and could impede them spending needs to be squashed. It really is that simple.
For example, completing act 6.1 gives you a one time 24 hour offer to rank up a 5* from R4-R5. Had people known about this in advance, they could’ve hoarded the units to snatch that up. However, the hope is that the 24 hour time crunch pressures you into buying a small fortune in units. Every “deal” is structured in this manner. Banning 4* obviously doesn’t benefit the gameplay nor does anyone in the community think so. But pairing it with cavalier crystals so you can buy those 5*, well, it’s basic business. It’s in their best interest to keep the community in the dark as much as said community is willing to tolerate. I’m not advocating for the practice or even claiming it’s ethical. I’m just saying changes like this are obviously not made just to make everyone angry. They’re made to try to squeeze out more $$$
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It wasn’t unhealthy when you all re-released the Blade crystal and also put out 5* shard offers. It wasn’t unhealthy when god tier champs were in the featured and offers for shards were around. It wasn’t unhealthy to hoard crystals ever.
Why does my holding out for crystals/champs I want hurt the game at all? There is nothing in the game that breaks or becomes unhealthy when people have a large stash of crystal shards. Nothing.
You are basically sitting there telling everyone who hoards crystals that it’s an unhealthy behavior. Why? You can’t jist say that and not give us a reason as to why that is. What’s so unhealthy about chasing crystals that have a desired champ or a higher chance at champ we need/want?
This game has always been about “free will” “choices” “personal decisions”. You keep telling us to do what we want, go after the champs we want, rank and level the champs we want. But now you’re telling us that is unhealthy? Now you’re telling us that we don’t get to make informed decisions anymore? And without a reason?
Transparency please.
Kabam: That’s the wrong kind of fun. It’s unhealthy. Stop.
Players: I’ll make a forum post.
Kabam: *deleted*
(Attempt number 2. Let’s see how fast until I’m censored again 😒)
On ‘unhealthy behavior’, it seems kabam is constantly trying to remove any automomy or free choice in strategy/roster building. If they don’t want us to try and get champs we want or use discretion in how we use our resources, then why not just assign us champs. These comments make think kabam doesn’t want us to get excited for new champ and that we should equally happy with pulling KK as pulling Blade.
Kabam is now teliing us HOW to play the game their way? This just got beyond a joke.
All cleared up.
And you're still welcome to spend your Crystal Shards however you would like! We're just not going to be putting out the list of Champions you can get in advance anymore. This is common in many games, but we want to encourage people to take a chance on what is available now, or decide if they want to wait for something else.
For all we know, maybe people will decide to hoard more and then we'll make the choice to reverse this decision, but we won't know until we try.
One thing that somebody brought up here that I am going to take back to the game team is that somethings have changed lately, and that's the importance of certain Champions to counter certain challenges or as keys to certain content, like Back Issues #1.
(This will make the community mad, they’ll get over it just like they do with everything else...)
(2) Make a daily purchase cap, just like the one used with the Loyalty and Alliance Crystal.
(This will make big spenders mad but it will allow a bit more balance in the game between the rich and the average players.)
[*Warning* this may also make the CEO mad too. Less daily dollars from some, but they will still stick around to buy more tomorrow anyway.]
These are merely suggestions to help maintain the Health and Integrity of the game, fairly, amongst all of the community, not just the top spenders.
I maintain being impartial to whatever decision is made.
That will prevent people from hoarding since they mostly do that for those featured champs. Problem solved!
Now also factor in the tiny stash limit on potions and catalysts and that statement is laughable. I don’t even have enough gold to use all my cats in a timely fashion. I don’t use potions fast enough to not hoard my hourly daily crystals. I will need those someday in hard content so yes I hoard and yes I’ll hoard my t4cc crystals and all other crystals.
We don’t want to see 1000+ crystals available but we are forced to because if we open those materials and resources are essentially trash especially with the trade in value for gold so poor.
I can understand why people do it (and have been annoyed seeing the same money-spenders getting the champ while others get the shaft) but I feel you bringing in the unhealthy bit is going to cause people to hoard out of spite
Is that he gist of this whole thing?
For example, completing act 6.1 gives you a one time 24 hour offer to rank up a 5* from R4-R5. Had people known about this in advance, they could’ve hoarded the units to snatch that up. However, the hope is that the 24 hour time crunch pressures you into buying a small fortune in units. Every “deal” is structured in this manner. Banning 4* obviously doesn’t benefit the gameplay nor does anyone in the community think so. But pairing it with cavalier crystals so you can buy those 5*, well, it’s basic business. It’s in their best interest to keep the community in the dark as much as said community is willing to tolerate. I’m not advocating for the practice or even claiming it’s ethical. I’m just saying changes like this are obviously not made just to make everyone angry. They’re made to try to squeeze out more $$$