Champs are getting way too complicated.. yes you Ebony Maw

I have read the abilities for Ebony Maw like 5 times now... way too much to remember. I don’t even fully understand it TBH. I don’t mind having to practice and gets reps in against a new champ.... but this is insane.

As an alliance officer, it is going to be hard to get 30 team members knowing abilities like Maw’s stream of conscious during war. I have defeated him a bunch of times in uncollected and still don’t fully get what is happening (Just intercepting with Hyperion’s L1 again and again... sometimes it goes through him... sometimes it doesn’t).

Kabam... If you feel you made Corvus or Ghost too strong, simply give rank down tickets and adjust them.... don’t create mega complicated defensive champs just to mess with them specifically

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Savio444

I just find it funny that Corvus cant hit Ebony maw at all. That is a bit much if you ask me.
Its a cycle, Mystic champs and villains where the thing, then came blade. Then they stopped putting villain tags on character who where obviously villains, as well as the lack of mystics.(Because apparently there are not many mystical characters in marvel...) Right now they're countering the big guaranteed crit champs like ghost and Corvus, with champs like Mister Sinister and now Ebony Maw. But really Corvus cant hit him at all, not even basic hits? Id have thought specials that had guarantee crit will miss would be enough.

"If the opponent doesn't have class advantage, Ebony maw causes all guaranteed critical hits to miss"

I dont know any science champions with guaranteed crits, apart from MODOKs every 7 hits.
Might have well just put in the description "good luck Corvus and ghost"...

Ultimatheory

It's just the cycle of the meta. Blade was OP for most content until they developed all new champs without a Villain tag that made him less useful for a lot of content.

Having Corvus or Ghost has diminished the difficulty of game considerably. Expect to see a lot more champs who have some sort of ability against guaranteed crits in the future. Whether they can auto glance the damage down to negligible levels, reflect the damage, copy the abilities of Sinister/Maw, or worse.

I'm expecting to see more Corvus/Ghost is overrated posts in the near future just like we saw with Blade when the meta shifted away from him.

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MMCskippy

What they're really doing is poisoning the post 12.0 player base with the same baloney that poisoned people against the game when 12.0 happened.

It's capitalism at it's finiest...
1. Create a cool product
2. Market cool product
3. Sales plateau
4. Create game mechanic to increase revenue (masteries, stoney cores, carb cores, boosts, high damage champs, perfect block teams, synergies, etc)
5. Market said game mechanic to drive up demand and increase revenue
6. Create hard counter to new game mechanic when income plateaus
7. Create new game mechanic to try and increase revenue again
8. Repeat ad infinitum or until a majority of the player base just can't handle the complexity and quits in frustration.

With Ebony Maw's abilities, we're about to Step 8 in this process.

GroundedWisdom

There's all the time in the world to get to know him, plus a wealth of information from other Players. We don't need to get everything the moment it's released.

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GroundedWisdom

I don't know, I'm a huge proponent of some Champs being complex. It makes it that much more fulfilling to get to know them. One of my favorite things is discovering something I never realized about a Champ that's been around a while.

xNig

Didn’t read his abilities that clearly but after fighting him a few times this is what I noticed:

- there’s a counter on you that counts up gradually once he becomes focused
- once that counter reaches 20, your next hit is a guaranteed crit that will miss and fulfill one of his missions
- Once you hit 15-16, the game will notify you that you are “approaching falter”, once faltered you’re next hit is guaranteed crit
- Upon EM completing a mission, you’ll get faltered and all attackers will miss as long as you have the falter passive on you (+ degen). So just wait it out.
- Using heavy on him will remove his focus and get him to go into cooldown

Besides that he’s not too tough as the boss since it’s only 29-30k, and his health pool seems to be as small as Spark’s.

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GroundedWisdom

There's all the time in the world to get to know him, plus a wealth of information from other Players. We don't need to get everything the moment it's released.
Oh yeah? Explain all of taskmasters abilities without looking them up. Go!

I didn't say I know all Champs. I haven't used him much. That's kind of the point I'm trying to make. I like having Champs to discover. It gives substance to the game.

xNig

There's all the time in the world to get to know him, plus a wealth of information from other Players. We don't need to get everything the moment it's released.
Oh yeah? Explain all of taskmasters abilities without looking them up. Go!

Haha. Don’t parry him too much when using Void against him in AW Buffet nodes 😬

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Greekhit

I don't know, I'm a huge proponent of some Champs being complex. It makes it that much more fulfilling to get to know them. One of my favorite things is discovering something I never realized about a Champ that's been around a while.

I totally agree with u gwidsom. The only disadvantage I find on having more complicated champs is the game meta because of the newer champs mechanics may be disfunctional with older champs or vice versa. I think that releasing one champ per month would give the programmers more time to roll out complicated( which I personally like) and functional champs instead of malfunctioning and broken.

The_Boss9

I’d much rather kabam just straight up nerf champs like ghost and Corvus and give us materials to rank them down rather than making champs that are literally created to counter them.

Zuro

Why are people mad that ONE champ counters Corvus like what do you expect ebony maw is a mystic therefore he should have an advantage over him people are acting like Corvus and Ghost are the only two champs in the game lol

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The_Boss9

Why are people mad that ONE champ counters Corvus like what do you expect ebony maw is a mystic therefore he should have an advantage over him people are acting like Corvus and Ghost are the only two champs in the game lol

Cough cough mr sinister. I’m fine with counters that are somewhat bearable, but ebony is 100% corvus immune. That’s a bit over the top

Zuro

Why are people mad that ONE champ counters Corvus like what do you expect ebony maw is a mystic therefore he should have an advantage over him people are acting like Corvus and Ghost are the only two champs in the game lol
Cough cough mr sinister. I’m fine with counters that are somewhat bearable, but ebony is 100% corvus immune. That’s a bit over the top

He is not fully Corvus immune just wait for Corvus to run out of charges

The_Boss9

Why are people mad that ONE champ counters Corvus like what do you expect ebony maw is a mystic therefore he should have an advantage over him people are acting like Corvus and Ghost are the only two champs in the game lol
Cough cough mr sinister. I’m fine with counters that are somewhat bearable, but ebony is 100% corvus immune. That’s a bit over the top
He is not fully Corvus immune just wait for Corvus to run out of charges

If you can’t hit him you can’t run out of charges, you only lose charges when you make contact with his glaive. Thus he is corvus immune

Zuro

Oh I never knew the attacks missed but I mean you can parry and use the light attack that doesn’t use his Glaive or just not use him

The_Boss9

Oh I never knew the attacks missed but I mean you can parry and use the light attack that doesn’t use his Glaive or just not use him

Yeah all his crits mis. He can usually counter you after you miss him so unless you’re extremely skilled with light intercepts it’s an almost unwinnable fight for cg. @Zuro

Savio444

Oh I never knew the attacks missed but I mean you can parry and use the light attack that doesn’t use his Glaive or just not use him

You can only parry his first light.

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Savio444

I dont know any science champions with guaranteed crits, apart from MODOKs every 7 hits.
Might have well just put in the description "good luck Corvus and ghost"...
Unfortunately MODOK’s Guaranteed Crit doesn’t work, since the last update.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/135508/modok-s-guaranteed-crit-is-gone#latest

Yeah, real package of an update this has been. With only 40 days left.

GroundedWisdom

I’d much rather kabam just straight up nerf champs like ghost and Corvus and give us materials to rank them down rather than making champs that are literally created to counter them.

That's the foundation that the game is built on. Some Champs counter others. No Champ will dominate everything. There are always strengths and weaknesses. If the goal is to Rank Champs that will be on top forever, I'm afraid that won't be this game.

Slimeball

eh i dont get him either so i just one shot hammer him with sparky lol

Longtimegamer

Modok wont suffer from a miss because he has class advantage

Championcritic

The only thing that I pay attention to where fighting ebony maw is concerned is:
1) you can only parry stun his 1st light attack
2) don't use corvus/ghost against him
3) use a heavy attack on him every now and then to break his focus
4) if I happen to falter, don't attack for 3 seconds
5) you can block the throwing stones part of his sp2 even if unblockable

Everything else I don't think is important unless someone can give me insight.

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Tranminhbao

The new champs' description is getting too long, unnecessarily long.