Upcoming Annihilus and Human Torch Balance Changes

mgj0630

@Kobster84 That would be a reasonable trade-off, but it could still contradict why someone may have gone after a certain champ. To your specific example, someone may have wanted Cull because he is capable of such high damage output without crits because they're struggling with a champ like Mr. Sinister.

Weapon__

Yeah sure first you guys bring champion with god tier potential and you nerf them so that players will look forward to new champion

tkhan08

Ebony Maw needed to be adjusted before HT and Annihilus.

SecondSkriller

Kobster84 said:

V1PER1987 said:

I mean, this could be a very good thing but am I the only one worried that this might turn into a “milk the whales and after we make a fortune on new champs, nerf them into the ground?” I don’t know what compensation you would give someone if that were to happen. If they shell out $1,000 for a champ just for the champ to be nerfed 3 months later what is reasonable compensation?

Ye I think they’ve wowed people by saying they are buffing torch and annilhus but I get the feeling namor cull etc are gonna be “balanced” when their time comes after everyone has spent

Don't think Namor needs a nerf m8, he is pretty balanced, his act 6 performance isn't the best, as for cull, I believe the payoff is too big to be honest, but I wouldn't nerf him, because why the hell would I like a champion to be worse? The more god tiers we have the better. Anyone who wishes for a nerf is pretty much only doing it out of spite in my opinion

CapMark2

That's good news but I think Kabam should be working on the old champs who are irrelevant now like Cap Ww2, Falcon, Jug, BP, Groot, Hulkbuster ect. Those deserve serious updates

AshKetchum

I see they started working on ebony maw.. is there a post saying what they did to human torch?

Jh_Dez

Worknprogress said:

IDoge said:

Kobster84 said:

IDoge said:

Worknprogress said:

IDoge said:

Kobster84 said:

IDoge said:

Kobster84 said:

IDoge said:

Kobster84 said:

What I don’t like is how they said they may alter a champ up or down
I’m assuming this could mean a nerf which if you do this before they are released into the basic means you are pretty much changing it after people have spent

That is true but let's be honest champs like namor and cull do too much damage. Best to stay balanced

They have their pros and cons like any champ

Pros or cons regardless their damage output is over the top. No more champs like these and the upcoming sunspot. There has to be some sort of balance in the game

Try cull obsidian in 6:2 he’s pretty much useless damage output isn’t everything otherwise starlord and proxima would be the best champs in the game

Cull can handle 6.2 if you are patient the first fight. After than it can be a breeze. I'm just saying too much damage can imbalance the roster

You've definitely never used him in 6.2. Sure there are some paths he can cover if you're willing to keep him topped up with potions. For like at least 80% of it though, he isn't gonna do squat for you

Maybe you're just not good with said champ? That can always be a possibility

Ok take a 5:65 cull against all or nothing backblast Hyperion tell me how that goes

1 fight. Okay... and the others?

Take him against any of the DoT nodes, the nodes where you bleed through blocks, biohazard, freezer burn, against a thing, against a stun immune path, debuff immune, caustic temper, etc.....

This is just like saying people take non immune champs to said nodes
Like who does that

Worknprogress

Jh_Dez said:

Worknprogress said:

IDoge said:

Kobster84 said:

IDoge said:

Worknprogress said:

IDoge said:

Kobster84 said:

IDoge said:

Kobster84 said:

IDoge said:

Kobster84 said:

What I don’t like is how they said they may alter a champ up or down
I’m assuming this could mean a nerf which if you do this before they are released into the basic means you are pretty much changing it after people have spent

That is true but let's be honest champs like namor and cull do too much damage. Best to stay balanced

They have their pros and cons like any champ

Pros or cons regardless their damage output is over the top. No more champs like these and the upcoming sunspot. There has to be some sort of balance in the game

Try cull obsidian in 6:2 he’s pretty much useless damage output isn’t everything otherwise starlord and proxima would be the best champs in the game

Cull can handle 6.2 if you are patient the first fight. After than it can be a breeze. I'm just saying too much damage can imbalance the roster

You've definitely never used him in 6.2. Sure there are some paths he can cover if you're willing to keep him topped up with potions. For like at least 80% of it though, he isn't gonna do squat for you

Maybe you're just not good with said champ? That can always be a possibility

Ok take a 5:65 cull against all or nothing backblast Hyperion tell me how that goes

1 fight. Okay... and the others?

Take him against any of the DoT nodes, the nodes where you bleed through blocks, biohazard, freezer burn, against a thing, against a stun immune path, debuff immune, caustic temper, etc.....

This is just like saying people take non immune champs to said nodes
Like who does that

No one with any sense. That was in response to someone basically saying he could roll through all of the available act 6 content and asked for fights he couldn't take

Willie_Arwontie

@Kabam Miike, what's the word on this. There has been absolutely no updates since you guys said you will be altering these guys in September. Well, it's almost the end of September and we have had many game update notices but absolutely none of them have given any more info as to what you guys are changing and when the changes will be live. I'm trying to be patient but even though I love torch and have my 5* at r4, I'm starting to be frustrated at waiting for more info as to that guy potentially becoming useful against non mystics

CFree

Willie_Arwontie said:

@Kabam Miike, what's the word on this. There has been absolutely no updates since you guys said you will be altering these guys in September. Well, it's almost the end of September and we have had many game update notices but absolutely none of them have given any more info as to what you guys are changing and when the changes will be live. I'm trying to be patient but even though I love torch and have my 5* at r4, I'm starting to be frustrated at waiting for more info as to that guy potentially becoming useful against non mystics

They said it would take 3 months. Why are you focusing on September?

AndTav

humzah217 said:

Do what u gotta do Kabam 🤞

I am also looking forward to it.

GNASTY

Are you guys able to give any indication of when these champion updates are estimated to be finished? Possibly in the November update? Or December?

issamaf80

GNASTY said:

Are you guys able to give any indication of when these champion updates are estimated to be finished? Possibly in the November update? Or December?

Stagedear85

Any update on these two

Katzilie

Any update guys?
I am waiting to see how ht will change in order to see if I awaken him or luke cage both 5*.
Do you think I should wait or go with Luke cage?

Willie_Arwontie

CFree said:

Willie_Arwontie said:

@Kabam Miike, what's the word on this. There has been absolutely no updates since you guys said you will be altering these guys in September. Well, it's almost the end of September and we have had many game update notices but absolutely none of them have given any more info as to what you guys are changing and when the changes will be live. I'm trying to be patient but even though I love torch and have my 5* at r4, I'm starting to be frustrated at waiting for more info as to that guy potentially becoming useful against non mystics

They said it would take 3 months. Why are you focusing on September?

Because the original post I read, said reworks to these 2 were coming in September and it was mentioned around the same (if not long after) time as the oml/colossus rework. The way the post sounded was that they were working on both the buffs for these 2 at the same time and would be released around September.

Are you kabam miike? Nope... so you wasted your efforts. 😉

Hammerbro_64

For those wondering, they made a recent post in announcements that basically says OML and Col buffs will be on schedule, but they will ask the community how they feel about proposed changes to Bugsy HT CO and EM in early DECEMBER.

I’m a little miffed that HT and Bugsy aren’t next update but that’s fine.

PaytoPlay

issamaf80 said:

GNASTY said:

Are you guys able to give any indication of when these champion updates are estimated to be finished? Possibly in the November update? Or December?

Colosuss and OML are not considered balance change but a revamp so it's going ahead. HT and anni are balance changes with no ability updates just like CO, ebony, etc and paused as per announcement today. This pic is abit misleading.

Ice_and_Fire

SO, Annihilus is my top champ and I play him religiously. I may be the only one in the game who does. That being said KABAM I would love to test out new tweeks and changes to annihilus I know literally everything about his gameplay and annimation down to timing. I can help with it. Or not that's cool too.

Ice_and_Fire

Wishful thinking perhaps

psp742

It’s nice and all to buff certain champs but not others is a bit unfair, spider-Gwen and she-hulk got some buff while others didn’t, Old man Logan and Colossus got buff too (I guess kabam is rechecking to make sure buff doesn’t make them too op, like she-hulk rework) while others in the meh tier are still untouched. Iron patriot, war machine, Ironman og, abomination, miles morales, ironfist, deadpool xforce, and list goes on. They should get some rework and only thing is who comes first not who should be voted for improvements.

Hammerbro_64

psp742 said:

They should get some rework and only thing is who comes first not who should be voted for improvements.

Who comes first in the “buff list” should be buffed, and the community shouldn’t vote to make that list. Riiiiiiiight. I don’t think you understand how all this works...programming can only occur so fast

tkhan08

Few thousands on forum doesn't represent the entire community. There should be in-game voting option like there was feedback for sigil or aw.

Mr_E

AndTav said:

humzah217 said:

Do what u gotta do Kabam 🤞

I am also looking forward to it.

Can't wait

issamaf80

PaytoPlay said:

issamaf80 said:

GNASTY said:

Are you guys able to give any indication of when these champion updates are estimated to be finished? Possibly in the November update? Or December?

Colosuss and OML are not considered balance change but a revamp so it's going ahead. HT and anni are balance changes with no ability updates just like CO, ebony, etc and paused as per announcement today. This pic is abit misleading.

I know do i look like a dumb to you