Is Spiderman (Stark Enhanced) still relevant in the End Game?

Justin2524

So I have an R5 Corvus and R5 Omega Red and am running suicides.

Do you think Spider man (Stark Enhanced) is still relevant in the game given that I run suicides?

SDP

He’s very relevant in the game. You are not stuck with suicides.

Hammerbro_64

Yesn’t. Take off suicides and kick some booty with Sparky. He’s probably gonna be my first r5 when I get another t5bc

B_Dizzle_01

Yes - even with suicides he's still great

He was my first 5/65 and I still use him all the time even though I have 11 now. Love sparky and I run suicides all the time.

Justin2524

B_Dizzle_01 said:

He was my first 5/65 and I still use him all the time even though I have 11 now. Love sparky and I run suicides all the time.

Oh ok but doesn't he rely on his sp1 (stun) or sp2 (damage) to be effective? Also he can't really heal so not so sustainable?

Ahitlaw

Yes - even with suicides he's still great

Very relevant. Will help you improve on your dexterity skills too. High damage, taunt really helps baiting special(one of the best Hyperion counters actually) and energy power drain. Dudes incredible

Justin2524

Ahitlaw said:

Very relevant. Will help you improve on your dexterity skills too. High damage, taunt really helps baiting special(one of the best Hyperion counters actually) and energy power drain. Dudes incredible

Yeah i get all that but how relevant is he with suicides as he doesn't heal and is reliant on his specials to be effective.

Buttehrs

Japam12345 said:

B_Dizzle_01 said:

He was my first 5/65 and I still use him all the time even though I have 11 now. Love sparky and I run suicides all the time.

Oh ok but doesn't he rely on his sp1 (stun) or sp2 (damage) to be effective? Also he can't really heal so not so sustainable?

Not necessarily. Just build up 10 poise charges and even your regular hits will smash big time.

Justin2524

Buttehrs said:

Japam12345 said:

B_Dizzle_01 said:

He was my first 5/65 and I still use him all the time even though I have 11 now. Love sparky and I run suicides all the time.

Oh ok but doesn't he rely on his sp1 (stun) or sp2 (damage) to be effective? Also he can't really heal so not so sustainable?

Not necessarily. Just build up 10 poise charges and even your regular hits will smash big time.

That's the tricky part.. building those charges without getting hit.. haha..

Ahitlaw

Yes - even with suicides he's still great

He isn’t suicide friendly that’s for sure,no immunities at all, anyone can be used with suicides though but it’ll cost ya some health potions

EpicGOAT

Yes - even with suicides he's still great

If you can't get enough poises without getting hot than you shouldn't rank him up. He isn't hard to use but no offense if u just gonna die and think suicides will do more harm than good just rank some 1 else up. Every 1 that says he isn't relevant are ppl who can't effectively use him

Pintzz

Personally I think stark is not good with suicides as he takes a lot of damage and requires his specials to be used much more then Corvus or OR. I have him as r5 and he was not used as much as I used him for other content when it came to act 6. That being said he absolutely crushs the newest variant where you can infinite stun a lot of the paths

IKON

You've skewed the poll results with your question. I was immediately going to vote yes, he's still relevant in the end game.
However you're really asking about running spark with suicides, which changes my answer to no, he's not suicide friendly at all.

Gauntlet

No. Use some other tech champion that can use suicides well like Ghost or Sentinel.

RustyWar

He was ok in endgame... held onto the gauntlet for some time while screaming like a baby though..

He delayed thanos from getting it earlier than he did so yes still relevant in end game

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phil56201

Theres no inbetween options here. Just yes or no. Id say yes, but maybe a tier lower in comparison to the newer champions.

_Kill_Switch_

This post's title is misleading.

Ahitlaw

Yes - even with suicides he's still great

_Kill_Switch_ said:

This post's title is misleading.

Who cares, we got the jist of what he’s asking.

DNA3000

Japam12345 said:

Ahitlaw said:

Very relevant. Will help you improve on your dexterity skills too. High damage, taunt really helps baiting special(one of the best Hyperion counters actually) and energy power drain. Dudes incredible

Yeah i get all that but how relevant is he with suicides as he doesn't heal and is reliant on his specials to be effective.

It sounds like you're answering your own question. If you believe you need to heal back recoil damage if you use specials and you believe Sparky isn't useful without his specials then Sparky is not effective for you. But if you're in a fight where you can build a lot of poise charges quickly you can do a ton of damage with Sparky, you can still use heavies for power drain and SP3 which doesn't recoil, and he's still an effective choice for some fights: particularly fights you can end relatively quickly.

Also, if you run full suicides that can take a toll on Sparky, but if you run partial suicides (specifically, double edge and coagulate to reduce bleed damage, plus willpower) the net damage from DE with willpower is negligible. You still need recoil, but as long as you don't spam specials you can still be sustainable.

That's currently the set up I'm running, and Sparky does okay. There aren't many foes that can eat a lot of SP2s from Sparky with max poise, so recoil damage is minimal. But chain stunning is somewhat less effective with all the recoil.

Projectile

Ten charges and heavy. Insane damage

MiStaLova

No - there are better champs nowadays

Stealth suit is much better

Kalantak

Yes - even with suicides he's still great

yes and he doesnt need any extra suicide mastery attacks and well AIs is always weird against him,very very defensive, doing tripple combos of medium,medium,light and sometimes even randomaly throwing Heavy attacks, BUT if u can get past all these and gain atleast 6-7 poise charges he does the job, unless its domino well then he just dies while blocking or evading either one.

Reverend_Ruckus

Yes - even with suicides he's still great

Why would he not be relevant?

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Griffoplay

Yes - even with suicides he's still great

Yes it is. just be carefull with sp 1 and 2. as long as you hit with 10 poises you will hit hard, really hard. Onece you are used to play with him, you will time your sp2 in order to kill the enemy and not taking recoil damage.

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Greywarden

he's still a relevant champ but loses longevity with suicides for sure. Once he dips under 50% he loses a lot of damage but his utility with taunt, power drain and evading specials is still very valuable in the game.

B_Dizzle_01

Yes - even with suicides he's still great

Japam12345 said:

B_Dizzle_01 said:

He was my first 5/65 and I still use him all the time even though I have 11 now. Love sparky and I run suicides all the time.

Oh ok but doesn't he rely on his sp1 (stun) or sp2 (damage) to be effective? Also he can't really heal so not so sustainable?

With 10 poise you will be hitting for 8-10k per hit. Few combos and most champs go down. Get to SP2 and it’s arojnd 60k. That should end it. You don’t need specials all the time.