Champs that were nerfed, what was changed?

I didn't play back in the glory days of the old champs. Just wondering what was changed with Scarlett Witch, Doctor Strange and Thor that made them lesser champs? Any other champs that got a heavy nerf?

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SummonerNR

Saw someone else recently ask this same question also, probably visible in Search.
But...

SW - lowered her % chance to trigger specifically the Regen buff and Stun debuff. So odds were shifted onto the other various buffs/debuffs she can do. She used to be able to maintain health better than Wolverine, as well as perpetual stun-lock her opponents if you used a 4x or 5x CritRate synergy team.

DS - the time duration of each of his 3 periods was increased, thus delaying how long into the fight it took to get into healing and higher attack periods. Also made his Regen based strictly on a “per hit” basis instead of based on how much damage he actually did with those hits. So saving up for SP's during his Regen period used to have a much higher Regen, now they count the same as a single basic hit.

Thor - used to be able to stack more than just 2 Armor Breaks (from stuns) onto opponent. When Parry was first created, this let you easily have 3 breaks, sometimes 4, and I saw someone do a fight against Maestro getting either 5 or 6 Breaks on him (and a high SP attack afterwards basically did Maestro in). Ppl have said the stated Armor Reduction value of each Armor Break was also reduced (not disputing that, just don’t know for sure about that part).

ECOMA

Saw someone else recently ask this same question also, probably visible in Search.
But...

SW - lowered her % chance to trigger specifically the Regen buff and Stun debuff. So odds were shifted onto the other various buffs/debuffs she can do. She used to be able to maintain health better than Wolverine, as well as perpetual stun-lock her opponents if you used a 4x or 5x CritRate synergy team.

DS - the time duration of each of his 3 periods was increased, thus delaying how long into the fight it took to get into healing and higher attack periods. Also made his Regen based strictly on a “per hit” basis instead of based on how much damage he actually did with those hits. So saving up for SP's during his Regen period used to have a much higher Regen, now they count the same as a single basic hit.

Thor - used to be able to stack more than just 2 Armor Breaks (from stuns) onto opponent. When Parry was first created, this let you easily have 3 breaks, sometimes 4, and I saw someone do a fight against Maestro getting either 5 or 6 Breaks on him (and a high SP attack afterwards basically did Maestro in). Ppl have said the stated Armor Reduction value of each Armor Break was also reduced (not disputing that, just don’t know for sure about that part).

The armor break if done right could cause negative armor.

I believe they fixed negative armor in general.

Thor doing 400k sp3s was fun as a 4 star

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SummonerNR

A great team used to be SW, BW, Vision AoU, Falcon, and a 2nd Falcon.

CritRate's galore (especially when using SW), plus double the extra bonuses from Falcon Recon synergy.

ECOMA

A great team used to be SW, BW, Vision AoU, Falcon, and a 2nd Falcon.

CritRate's galore (especially when using SW), plus double the extra bonuses from Falcon Recon synergy.

Back when 1 or 2 champs were enough and you could justify 2 falcons..

The good ole days

-sixate-

SW had 100% chance to throw up buffs or debufs on crits to favor her. You could literally stun and power lock for an entire fight with the right crit synergy and drop 50k sp2's. With full MD she was nuts and could drop sp2's after just a few hits against the right champ. Plus she was a regen machine. Even at max sig now she can give the opponent fury, armor, and she can lose power. What other champ has a sig ability that can help the opponent, none. That's why she sucks now. Not to mention her regen rate decreased, actually all buff/ debuff durations decreased.

Doc could just control a fight and live forever with his regen. Sp2 did major damage with AB. He's not even half as good as he once was. And he was the most nerfed champ ever. Nerfed him 4 times, but the 12.0 nerf made him complete trash. Reduced duration of all his cycles, lost his massive life steal.

And Thor was the biggest damage champ in the game. 400k sp3's with 4 or 5 armor breaks. Wasn't the easiest thing for most to do, and he had zero utility and was useless vs stun immune. There was no reason to nerf him. Now all 3 are garbage.

slacker

SW had 100% chance to throw up buffs or debufs on crits to favor her. You could literally stun and power lock for an entire fight with the right crit synergy and drop 50k sp2's. With full MD she was nuts and could drop sp2's after just a few hits against the right champ. Plus she was a regen machine. Even at max sig now she can give the opponent fury, armor, and she can lose power. What other champ has a sig ability that can help the opponent, none. That's why she sucks now. Not to mention her regen rate decreased, actually all buff/ debuff durations decreased.

Doc could just control a fight and live forever with his regen. Sp2 did major damage with AB. He's not even half as good as he once was. And he was the most nerfed champ ever. Nerfed him 4 times, but the 12.0 nerf made him complete trash. Reduced duration of all his cycles, lost his massive life steal.

And Thor was the biggest damage champ in the game. 400k sp3's with 4 or 5 armor breaks. Wasn't the easiest thing for most to do, and he had zero utility and was useless vs stun immune. There was no reason to nerf him. Now all 3 are garbage.

Not really,SW still do some niche damage and regen if you lucky enough, i used to have 2 regen buff and she heal a lot
Thor with 2 armor breaks and a fury still deal 4k with tech champ as 4* max sig
But yeah,Doc is garbage, he like Ebony Maw with no miss or degen

Frnkielo

Used to be a synergy called leadership with captain America and war machine that gave everyone perfect block ..they took it away because you wouldn’t die with captain America ever

daKracken

Let’s not forget how they did the huge doctor strange event that December that people could basically buy him and rank him up and hardly 3 months later the crippled him as a champion. Had my ds at r5 and used the rank down tickets to take him all the way down to r3. I have video somewhere of my last fight using him and thor before the update. I wish they would do a “my little symbiote” like event where they gave use a pre-nerf version of those champs that we could clear a super hard quest with and could only be used there.

World Eater

Black widow had 99% ability reduction from her sig when maxed out.

Starlords combo streak was unlimited. I believe it maxes out at 500 now.

SummonerNR

Used to be a synergy called leadership with captain America and war machine that gave everyone perfect block ..they took it away because you wouldn’t die with captain America ever

Probably thinking of “Block Proficiency” alternative instead of “Perfect Block” synergy.
Block Prof used to be able to get so high (was that with Strange, Witch, and someone else I forget, maybe Storm ?) as to basically become a near perfect 0-damage Block on every blocked hit (unlike Perfect Block Mastery/Synergy itself which is only 0-Damage for some low % of blocked hits).

That's why Strange could basically solo most of ROL, would rarely take any damage so long as you were blocking.

World Eater

Leadership synergy, that allowed you to take 0 block damage, was:

Strange - Witch - strange

Cyclops - Black bolt (I forgot if there was a 3rd)

World Eater

Magneto used to cause bleed from the first hit of his L1 but that was removed for pretty much no reason, making him even less useful.

Darksun987

SW is still good just she doesn't have a 5 or 6 star.

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Seraphion

Magneto used to cause bleed from the first hit of his L1 but that was removed for pretty much no reason, making him even less useful.

I remember that. They said in the forum it was bc this did 2 much damage. To be honest he was on of the best bleeders back then WHEN it procced

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