15.0 Alliance Wars Update Discussion Thread

Summoners!

Our 15.0 Update is just about a week away, and with it, it's bringing a huge change to Alliance Wars! Check out everything you need to know about the Brand New Map, Scoring Changes, and new boosts in the Loyalty Store here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/17902/15-0-alliance-wars-update/

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Grimmbear

Oh boy i can fight 5 Magik/ Dorm minibosses instead of 3, sounds fun

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Bendy

Seems fun but if there are 5 minis we need at least more than 3 champs in war at least give us 4 champs to use since this will be hard if even 1 dies

TheBaldAvenger

Can't find the bit about reward increase and why they will be?

Rydertheblack

Hey, any plan for AQ timers to be set on 30 min?

NevvB

Why dont we get defender kill points anymore? This will benefit spending alliances cause they dont have to worry about giving up points for every death.
We have won a few wars because of defender kills and now you've made it harder for non spenders vs. spenders.
You've made aw less about skill and more about who will spend.

DD2

By removing defender kill points, you've thrown out skill and made whoever has the biggest will to spend the winner.

As if spending wasn't bad enough, now a piss poor team can spend their way to win against a highly skilled team.

Bassamista

When the rewards will be updated?

Totally unfair fighting 5 mini bosses for the same rewards.

FPC3

The change to Defender kills is one I strongly disagree with. The rest seems do-able.

Acanthus

No points on defender kills is idiotic, sorry

DD2

Seriously Kabam, bring back defender kill points. You'll ruin the integrity of alliance wars if you don't. It's about skill, not about how many units you fork over.

Kronos987654321

How much gold can we expect to get roughly?

Amonthir

Agree, keep Defender Kills. Give us a preview of map and nodes so we can discuss them, and you can make adjustments before it goes live. Don't pull the 'but we like surprises!' thing, this is need to know, need to discuss information. Make double and triple and double-triple sure the portals function correctly.

And know that the Diversity thing, while well-intentioned, won't matter much at all unless the Archtype nodes are strong. Does nothing to make people rethink adding yet another Magik/NC/Dorm/etc to their defense lineup, as a few points are not worth placing a less effective Defender. Side note, none of the Defenders (the superhero group), make particularly good Defenders

Another edit! You specifically mentioned Increased Energy Damage nodes. Please define what will count in that case. Is it attacks only (IM L2, for instance)? Or will it boost damage from Limbo and Coldsnap?

bradshaw1984

Roughly translated, we want you to keep spending after you die. Dance monkey dance.

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Eb0ny-O-M4w

So I thought this would be fun ... But here's what bothers me:
- 5 mini-bosses
- Increased energy damage (Magik Limbo will be paywall)
- Removed defender's kills and increased points in attacker's kills (which means that when fightning against Alliances full of money, we now don't stand a single chance to beat them).
- More battles means more chances to die to Limbo or BS matches.

And I was ready to see the increased rewards but wait, there were no changes made to them ...

Crammer2020

GREAT! 5 minis with the same 3 attackers on a much bigger map, means more revives needed! No defender kill points! BIG SPENDERS WIN EVERY WAR!!! FUNNN!!!!!

Ultimatheory

Will the MVP stats only be based on the new map or will there be retroactive stats based on current AW up to this point?

Kabam Miike

Amonthir wrote: »

Agree, keep Defender Kills. Give us a preview of map and nodes so we can discuss them, and you can make adjustments before it goes live. Don't pull the 'but we like surprises!' thing, this is need to know, need to discuss information. Make double and triple and double-triple sure the portals function correctly.

Unfortunately, there won't be any more information on Nodes made available at this time. Sorry guys, but you're going to have to wait and see! We've gone through many revisions on them already to ensure that they are not too punishing, and that they are enjoyable to play, while still sticking to that goal of playing up Champion archetypes.

hurricant

Bring back defender kill points. What a bad decision

Spidey076

I agree magik with r5 md and on increase energy damage node that's truly a bs and totally for spenders items.really that's all?i really like the idea of 6* but that few aw point are bothering me now.

Kabam Miike

Ultimatheory wrote: »

Will the MVP stats only be based on the new map or will there be retroactive stats based on current AW up to this point?

They will only be based on the new Map. Everybody will start at 0 again when the Stat becomes visible, and will start earning MVP again.

Crammer2020

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Amonthir wrote: »

Agree, keep Defender Kills. Give us a preview of map and nodes so we can discuss them, and you can make adjustments before it goes live. Don't pull the 'but we like surprises!' thing, this is need to know, need to discuss information. Make double and triple and double-triple sure the portals function correctly.

Unfortunately, there won't be any more information on Nodes made available at this time. Sorry guys, but you're going to have to wait and see! We've gone through many revisions on them already to ensure that they are not too punishing, and that they are enjoyable to play, while still sticking to that goal of playing up Champion archetypes.

But miike, it seems based on this update, whoever is willing to spend more $ wins. No defender kill points?? stupid! 5 mini bosses, still bringing 3 attackers? now there will be 6 magiks as bosses with increased energy damage, on a bigger map with more battles???? $$ wins here. Going to be near impossible to win a war without $.

Kabam Miike

Crammer2020 wrote: »

GREAT! 5 minis with the same 3 attackers on a much bigger map, means more revives needed! No defender kill points! BIG SPENDERS WIN EVERY WAR!!! FUNNN!!!!!

Bigger map doesn't mean that you'll be having more fights. There will be just as many Defenders as there were before.

DD2

Who's idea was it to remove defender kill points? Probably the most greediest decision ever made. Congrats, you just ruined Alliance Wars!

rwhack

bradshaw1984 wrote: »

Roughly translated, we want you to keep spending after you die. Dance monkey dance.

Absolutely terrible decision. Instead of AW maybe we can all just do a credit card swipe and whoever has the highest amount wins.

bradshaw1984

@Kabam Miike can you address the obvious concern that eliminating defender kills and extra bosses seems like a ready made whoever spends more, wins?

RehctansBew

Wow another Wallet breaking release by Kabam, those with the biggest can win all the time. Yet another day of proof you are a fumbling excuse for a game company. How do you take kills away from points, this is joke. Next you'll tell us you get additional points for every unit spent during the aw.

Jerzy

You mentioned more fights and a bigger map. Does this mean the number of defenders each player brings is increasing? If so what will the new number be?

Crammer2020

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Crammer2020 wrote: »

GREAT! 5 minis with the same 3 attackers on a much bigger map, means more revives needed! No defender kill points! BIG SPENDERS WIN EVERY WAR!!! FUNNN!!!!!

Bigger map doesn't mean that you'll be having more fights. There will be just as many Defenders as there were before.

ok, just as many defenders. But defender kills, in combo with 5 mini bosses means $$ wins every war. No more skill. Good job killing wars.