Waddya think about alliance jumper

M1k0rin

Just want to know your opinion

Comments

SuperiorSymbiote

Wait how quickly do you have to leave an ally yo be known as an alliance jumper?

AzKicker316

I wish we could post the names of those folks who jump constantly from alliance to alliance, especially in the middle of AQ, or war season, etc.

Chatterofforums

It's a part of the game that will never go away for many reasons. If an alliance underperforms, is disorganized, unrealistic expectations, overly inflated who leadership, etc., people will look for better fits.

My personal pet peeves lately are the lies (to include leaving out information that goes against what person says they are looking for in alliance) alliance recruiters say to get someone to join (lie about aq placement, war status, alliance reorgs, etc). Then they get mad if you leave after you find out the lies to you.

AzKicker316

But a recruit can always ask for verification of AQ placement, they can see an alliances war placement and rating. It's so much easier to lie to an alliance as a recruit than it is vice versa. It's only getting worse as new players can more easily build their roster faster than their skills.

Chatterofforums

But a recruit can always ask for verification of AQ placement, they can see an alliances war placement and rating. It's so much easier to lie to an alliance as a recruit than it is vice versa. It's only getting worse as new players can more easily build their roster faster than their skills.

I agree and know it happens on both sides or maybe I've just had a bad streak on dishonest recruiters lately and I always ask many follow-up questions, but don't always get honest answers. Last alliance I joined seemed to have everything I wanted and I joined then found out the recruiter left one little detail out. He was only one in alliance that spoke English. Sure that wasn't a "lie" but was clearly leaving out an important detail.

lowlevelplayer

I jump every 2 or 3 months if the alliance is disorganized/ falling apart/ too low for my current progression level.
Alliances should stay competitive and always be aware that people may leave at any time.

AzKicker316

I jump every 2 or 3 months if the alliance is disorganized/ falling apart/ too low for my current progression level.
Alliances should stay competitive and always be aware that people may leave at any time.

Alliances should be whatever they want to be, including being competitive or not. If members want to move on, that's their choice as always.

As a leader, my alliance has a set goal and we strive to maintain that goal. I've had to recruit a few folks every offseason due to either people getting burned out or they want the next higher level. As a recruiter, I try to be as transparent as I can, simply because I'm trying to find a good fit for my alliance. As for recruits, it actually is getting harder and harder to find folks that live up to what they sell me on. I have a set of screening questions that does help weed out folks, but it's never perfect.

Mcord11758

Define jumper. Someone who splits mid aq map or cycle, or just someone who tries a place and moves on

AzKicker316

Define jumper. Someone who splits mid aq map or cycle, or just someone who tries a place and moves on

I'm assuming the former, because the latter isn't an issue

Mcord11758

In that case the right thing to do is inform the leader of your intentions and finish what you start.

AzKicker316

In that case the right thing to do is inform the leader of your intentions and finish what you start.

In a perfect world yes, but reality and experience know it's not that way when dealing with people virtually

Gamer

For me a allicen jumper is one join jus before AQ Star then leave

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Gamer

For me a allicen jumper is one join jus before AQ Star then leave
But Jak.. its such a fun thing to do! Only joking - I was stuck with this guy for what? Year and a half, left for 2 months, somewhere else for now.

Its all about finding the right fit. If you join somewhere, dont join and leave the next day - give them at least a week to prove themselves, for you to integrate - and in the case of @Gamer , for him to brainwash you into saying Jeps instead of yes. Isn't that right @A_NAZ . Or at least have a nice lobster dinner, @Dr_Z01dberg is delicious slow cooked glazed in garlic butter

There or a defrinds between. To be nice

Mauled

The very nature of this game means that people are going to move alliances fairly regularly until they hit a certain point.

Step 1 - learning the ropes (Noob)
Step 2 - starting to take it serious (M4)
Step 3 - I want to push on (M5)
Step 4 - Let’s give map 6 a go - a lot of players hover between Step 3/4 as they learn map 6 and get booted for prestige/ability etc. Depending on leadership’s willingness to nurture a player.

Step 5 - home - the player has worked out what they want - experiences Map 5 or 6. Maybe even 7 if they’re hardcore. AW focus perhaps? Relax and chill?

Jumping also works both ways - there are so many alliances that will boot someone at the drop of a hat, or sell you a lie to get you through the door.

I was climbing the ranks I got booted from my first Map 6 alliance because I had the lowest prestige and I was new so I was coming to terms with Map 6 itself - I got 1 cycle of AQ before they decided on a better choice. I got a better home in my second but they were a bit too serious for me. Everything was regimented - very well organised, I was expected to clear my node at a specific time (7.30AM because that’s when I get up for work - even on weekends) and I’m not about being told how to live so I left after season.

I was then sold a lie - Map 6 alliance was actually a 655 alliance.

It took me a while to find a good home with similar in game objectives and a schedule that worked around my life.

Sensei_Maat

alliance jumper = bad person
or
does it mean the alliance was bad?

different people want different things from the game.
different alliances provide different things.

i used to run an alliance, and yes i found some people that came and went for what i would think was no reason, but it is always something like they didn't gel with ur peeps, they wanted map 6 but you only did map 5.
or they wanted move leisurely but ur ally wanted to hassle peeps to move
all kinds of different things. some reflect badly on the person, some may reflect badly on your ally.
but what i found more often,
was when i am looking for an ally people selling you a Ferrari but then delivering a Toyota.
of course you're gunna jump when that happens.
and if they disrespect you enough to sell you a load of horse **** why should you feel the need to respect them enough to wait until the end of AQ?

so there is no one size fits all.
some allies are bad
some people are bad
some people just dont fit some allies.

Mr_Platypus

Jumpers are for the most part bad, as long as the alliance didn’t sell a bunch of lies of course.
Most ridiculous jumper I had was someone that joined us for map 6, then when I messaged 3 times across 3 days for his roster so I could sort diversity he just rage quit the alliance because map 6 was fine but having a diverse defence was too hardcore for him.

TP33

I’d say ask as many questions as possible. Find out exactly the AQ/AW arrangements before you join. Be communicating with an Officer/leader for maybe a week. Nobody can force you into an alliance. Also have a look at some of the profiles in the alliance. Check stuff like average prestige etc. Is it an alliance where most have 5/50 4*s, 4/55s or 5/65s? This is the process I went through when I recently moved ally and after less than 10 days I already feel as if this is going to be a long term thing.

M1k0rin

I find alot good + friendly alliance in mcoc. It just, i often get burnt out after playing 1-2 season so thats why i took rest for couple days untill i feel ready to play again in group. Thats why im always trying to left at off season so they dont have hard time to find replacement.

Its kinda tiring (if in long weeks) to have check my phone couple times / day or after wake up open mcoc to move in aq/aw,

Vivek_786

Every popular YouTuber is a jumper ! They just want to grow badly so they were jumped from low level ally to high level ally ! I know many of them !

Terra

Every popular YouTuber is a jumper ! They just want to grow badly so they were jumped from low level ally to high level ally ! I know many of them !

You forgot the pepper, with all the salt your having

Neotwism

Every popular YouTuber is a jumper ! They just want to grow badly so they were jumped from low level ally to high level ally ! I know many of them !

A person can move between alliances all the time without being an ally jumper. Ppl get the reputation as an ally jumper because of how they go about leaving. If you leave in the middle of aq/aw or without saying a word to leadership there is a good chance you are considered an ally jumper. I would never bring back an ally jumper. Usually an alliance jumper stays a very short time and leaves without communicating or very little communication.