Unpopular opinion: Root is a brilliant node and I love it

This really just shows that some people will never be happy - they complain that there arent enough skill-based nodes, and when kabam add an entirely skill-based node into the game they complain it's too hard.

Well personally I think its awesome, it brings a completely new aspect of playing to the table, where you are forced to learn and master the timings of each and every special attack hit your opponent throws. And you dont need a counter.

Not only that but it comes along with new opportunities that we never had before, like heavy countering many specials that before would be impossible, bringing new value to certain champs like hulkbuster.

So, to be honest, I don't understand the people complaining. Good job kabam, and I look forward to seeing what else you do with this mechanic.

Comments

Notsavage19

Yeah, this was a great way to introduce nodes/gameplay mechanics that didn't solely rely on counters and whether or not you have them.

Thicco_Mode

go off qacob! hard agree

Realm_Of_Rah

Well said

Qacob

I can also imagine she-hulk gaining a lot of potential from certain root matchups

FiiNCH

Absolutely agree, I think it’s a great addition to the game which challenges a players skill in a different way. As I said on a previous thread, I’d much rather Kabam design a mechanic like this than put a new unavoidable damage interaction in.

Kabam Miike

Hey guys, I'll leave this discussion open because there is more than just feedback on the Mechanic here, but please be sure to be adding your feedback on what you do and don't like about Root to the Feedback thread as well: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/231578/root-feedback-new-mechanic

Colonaut123

It's silly and an obvious cash grab. This is just to mind f the community to rewire everything they learnt past 5 years. This has nothing to do with skill.

ItsDamien

It's silly and an obvious cash grab. This is just to mind f the community to rewire everything they learnt past 5 years. This has nothing to do with skill.

Learning how to rewire what you've learned to do something differently in a given situation is inherently a skill, what do you even mean that it doesn't?

Qacob

It's silly and an obvious cash grab. This is just to mind f the community to rewire everything they learnt past 5 years. This has nothing to do with skill.

This sounds sarcastic, cant tell...

FRITO_Man

Think of the bad nodes that you can stack with "root" and then go from there
What about root aspect of war korg?
What about LDR root void?
What about root footloose killmonger?
I'm okay with having this on a side quest, but this might set a precedent for Cav EQ or harder content in the future with really BS nodes. You all know how 6.2 turned out....

Notsavage19

It's silly and an obvious cash grab. This is just to mind f the community to rewire everything they learnt past 5 years. This has nothing to do with skill.

Oh, so Inverted Controls is a cash grab now too? Are new abilities (X's MC) also by your definition, cash grabs?

FRITO_Man

It's silly and an obvious cash grab. This is just to mind f the community to rewire everything they learnt past 5 years. This has nothing to do with skill.
Oh, so Inverted Controls is a cash grab now too? Are new abilities (X's MC) also by your definition, cash grabs?

The thing about inverted though is that its been in the game for a while. I'm personally not a fan of root with certain combos but we'll have to wait and see

Qacob

Think of the bad nodes that you can stack with "root" and then go from there
What about root aspect of war korg?
What about LDR root void?
What about root footloose killmonger?
I'm okay with having this on a side quest, but this might set a precedent for Cav EQ or harder content in the future with really BS nodes. You all know how 6.2 turned out....

I am talking about root alone, any node can suck when paired with a bad one, or the wrong champion, or both!

Notsavage19

Think of the bad nodes that you can stack with "root" and then go from there
What about root aspect of war korg?
What about LDR root void?
What about root footloose killmonger?
I'm okay with having this on a side quest, but this might set a precedent for Cav EQ or harder content in the future with really BS nodes. You all know how 6.2 turned out....

Think of all the bad nodes you can stack on top of any node.

Do you Bleed with Debuff Immunity?

Of course they're gonna be bad matchups, but they'll avoid those to avoid backlash from the community.

Crcrcrc

I hated it at first... but I kinda enjoy it. I just wish there was a place to test it without wasting my gauntlets.

FRITO_Man

Think of the bad nodes that you can stack with "root" and then go from there
What about root aspect of war korg?
What about LDR root void?
What about root footloose killmonger?
I'm okay with having this on a side quest, but this might set a precedent for Cav EQ or harder content in the future with really BS nodes. You all know how 6.2 turned out....
I am talking about root alone, any node can suck when paired with a bad one, or the wrong champion, or both!

For sure root alone is fine, but I would wish they don't put Tigra or anyone with long AF specials on that node. I'm just saying that if Kabam introduces this node, I don't want them to put it with really BS node combos which makes it almost impossible

Notsavage19

It's silly and an obvious cash grab. This is just to mind f the community to rewire everything they learnt past 5 years. This has nothing to do with skill.
Oh, so Inverted Controls is a cash grab now too? Are new abilities (X's MC) also by your definition, cash grabs?
The thing about inverted though is that its been in the game for a while. I'm personally not a fan of root with certain combos but we'll have to wait and see

Exactly, it's been here for a while, but when it first came out, everyone was prob reacting the same way. People just need to chill.

Qacob

Think of the bad nodes that you can stack with "root" and then go from there
What about root aspect of war korg?
What about LDR root void?
What about root footloose killmonger?
I'm okay with having this on a side quest, but this might set a precedent for Cav EQ or harder content in the future with really BS nodes. You all know how 6.2 turned out....

There can also be good matchups too though, imagine how much easier 6.2 champion would be if he had it.

ItsDamien

It's silly and an obvious cash grab. This is just to mind f the community to rewire everything they learnt past 5 years. This has nothing to do with skill.
Oh, so Inverted Controls is a cash grab now too? Are new abilities (X's MC) also by your definition, cash grabs?
The thing about inverted though is that its been in the game for a while. I'm personally not a fan of root with certain combos but we'll have to wait and see

So what's the use in complaining about the Root mechanic on the first day of it's release. Of course you're not going to immediately be used to it. Many people had, and still do have, trouble with inverted controls (Just look at the Magik boss in the previous CavEQ), but that doesn't inherently make it a cash grab or bad design, it just means you need to take time to adjust to it.

FiiNCH

It’s great when you’re using omega red - you just stack up spores on the opponent whilst they’re using their special attacks then heavy counter straight after

Qacob

It’s great when you’re using omega red - you just stack up spores on the opponent whilst they’re using their special attacks then heavy counter straight after

Yeah any champion with any sort of proximity affect are gonna be very different with this node

Thicco_Mode

Think of the bad nodes that you can stack with "root" and then go from there
What about root aspect of war korg?
What about LDR root void?
What about root footloose killmonger?
I'm okay with having this on a side quest, but this might set a precedent for Cav EQ or harder content in the future with really BS nodes. You all know how 6.2 turned out....
There can also be good matchups too though, imagine how much easier 6.2 champion would be if he had it.

exactly what I was thinking too haha

Etjama

There are only 2 things I have a problem with (as far as the special attack version of Root goes).

1. It makes some special attacks almost impossible to dodge when normally you could create distance and have no problems which means more block damage from specials. And

2. The AI's been extremely unpredictable lately (i.e not letting go of block until you finally go in for a dash and they light intercept you). Special baiting's been extremely off and root just kind of makes that worse.

Overall though, I'm actually really happy with this mechanic. It's fun and skill based. Looking forward to everything else root-related.

Qacob

There are only 2 things I have a problem with (as far as the special attack version of Root goes).

1. It makes some special attacks almost impossible to dodge when normally you could create distance and have no problems which means more block damage from specials. And

2. The AI's been extremely unpredictable lately (i.e not letting go of block until you finally go in for a dash and they light intercept you). Special baiting's been extremely off and root just kind of makes that worse.

Overall though, I'm actually really happy with this mechanic. It's fun and skill based. Looking forward to everything else root-related.

I agree with 1, hopefully they wont add it to any stupid characters like dormammu or Luke cage but I mean I think kabam would get some serious backlash for that and i imagine they know it.

Number 2 is hopefully just a temporary issue.

SpideyFunko

Agree. It’s fun, however I am concerned with possible node combinations with root. Those could be bad.

Qacob

It's silly and an obvious cash grab. This is just to mind f the community to rewire everything they learnt past 5 years. This has nothing to do with skill.
Learning how to rewire what you've learned to do something differently in a given situation is inherently a skill, what do you even mean that it doesn't?
You will find no sport or art where someone cuts off your ladder to let you fall, just so you can climb up again. Then the climb becomes meaningless due to the lack of real progress.

Ok I'm sorry but that is the dumbest analogy ever. Root is about challenging players to have to learn something new not stopping them from progressing. Challenge is what we need without it also being a paywall and that is what root is, you dont need a specific character at all, just practice.

Thanks_D19

I like root a lot actually, tigra gets a huge advantage from it so do characters like quake and omega red, plus it is entirely skill based which I love

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Qacob

I just don't like techno.

Wat

Artoria77

I absolutely love this Root.
It shakdss up the gameplay, forces you to have the skill to dex specials and makes you think how far away or close you wanna be to the opponent as they throw the special.