Immortal Hulk A Fail In Multiple Ways

ihulk is a complete and utter fail both offensively and defensively. Offensively he falls short mainly due to one his lack of utility.2 his Extremely hard to keep up rage stacks and 3 his damage he takes constantly.IMO his Rage stacks are by far his biggest problem which 2 seconds is not even close to enough time and is widely impractical to use in an act 6 fight. If you can’t keep them stun locked They will just throw the Sp3 if your too aggressive and if you play too passive you’ll do almost no damage.

But now I want to cover his defense capabilities. Defensively he has almost nothing going for him extremely easy specials to avoid. His biggest annoyance immortality is easily countered by DAR champs and champs who can apply bleeds as soon as immortality is over.

So this raises my final question. What’s the point of ihulk? He’s widely impractical for offensive uses.And Defensively he’s easily countered. What’s the point of this champ? He’s useless for basically everything. I’m really confused why they made him so bad for offensive and defensive uses.He reminds me of terrax how they are both not good offensively and both pretty meh defensively

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Crcrcrc

I am gonna pop some cavs for him. He has potential. I am gonna mess around with him if I get him before making an opinion.

FluffyPigMonster

I am gonna pop some cavs for him. He has potential. I am gonna mess around with him if I get him before making an opinion.

I tried so much to make him relevant

Nope

Rookiie

I am gonna pop some cavs for him. He has potential. I am gonna mess around with him if I get him before making an opinion.
I tried so much to make him relevant

Nope

It's not over yet.

FluffyPigMonster

I am gonna pop some cavs for him. He has potential. I am gonna mess around with him if I get him before making an opinion.
I tried so much to make him relevant

Nope
It's not over yet.

How so? I can’t imagine they’ll do anything else to him.

FluffyPigMonster

Please put all feedback here:

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/232637/do-you-think-immortal-hulk-needs-a-tune-up#latest

Let’s consolidate so they can answer in one thread (or not).

Masterpuff

Can’t wait to test him myself.

Rookiie

I am gonna pop some cavs for him. He has potential. I am gonna mess around with him if I get him before making an opinion.
I tried so much to make him relevant

Nope
It's not over yet.
How so? I can’t imagine they’ll do anything else to him.

This issue is still fresh. Content creators have expressed major disappointment. I imagine CCP have given their feedback to Kabam. People are still yelling left and right about this mess and I imagine it will intensify once more players get their hands on him. I would keep campaigning for 2 or 3 more weeks, hopefully Kabam will find it in themselves to give an answer before Cyber Weekend.
#JusticeForImmortalHulk

FluffyPigMonster

I am gonna pop some cavs for him. He has potential. I am gonna mess around with him if I get him before making an opinion.
I tried so much to make him relevant

Nope
It's not over yet.
How so? I can’t imagine they’ll do anything else to him.
This issue is still fresh. Content creators have expressed major disappointment. I imagine CCP have given their feedback to Kabam. People are still yelling left and right about this mess and I imagine it will intensify once more players get their hands on him. I would keep campaigning for 2 or 3 more weeks, hopefully Kabam will find it in themselves to give an answer before Cyber Weekend.
#JusticeForImmortalHulk

Hahaha. Justice for either immortal or OG. Make a Hulk that we can all get behind.

Vendemiaire

He's just a grumpier Hulk with a one dollar store Lifecycle.

shield456

Bleeding does not affect his build up its only the node in Un and cav EQ

Dretlle

he look cool doe

Dontsellthem

My only complaint is that he looks too much like the regular hulk. Keep in mind I have ZERO knowledge of comic book characters.

Just a different shade of green.

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Crcrcrc

My only complaint is that he looks too much like the regular hulk. Keep in mind I have ZERO knowledge of comic book characters.

Just a different shade of green.

That is because he is the same Bruce Banner, just like Joe Fixit and Ghulk. They all have small physical differences but major personality differences. Immortal hulk looks like a larger, darker colored hulk in the comics, but is cruel and intelligent. He is close in looks, but almost an entirely different character in personality. Hope this helps!

Crcrcrc

My only complaint is that he looks too much like the regular hulk. Keep in mind I have ZERO knowledge of comic book characters.

Just a different shade of green.
That is because he is the same Bruce Banner, just like Joe Fixit and Ghulk. They all have small physical differences but major personality differences. Immortal hulk looks like a larger, darker colored hulk in the comics, but is cruel and intelligent. He is close in looks, but almost an entirely different character in personality. Hope this helps!

He is also unkillable and has glowing green veins when he is in a rage, just like in the game. Forgot to add this part.

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LeNoirFaineant

We need at least one Hulk in the game to be OP. Red Hulk and Gladiator Hulk have their uses. I don't want Fixit to be the best Hulk but he certainly needs a tune up. That leaves OG Hulk and the new Hulk. Pick one and get it done. And give the other a tune up.

xJamesss

Immortal hulk for defense and OG hulk for massive damage

FluffyPigMonster

Immortal hulk for defense and OG hulk for massive damage

He’s a terrible defender as well

Tatteshwar

Immortal hulk for defense and OG hulk for massive damage

Immortal Hulk is bad defensively as well, he was one of the easiest bosses in event quest released this year

DarthVadid

Why didn’t you learn from Black Blot self inflicted damage is DUMB. No one wants it or asked for it we begged to get rid of it.

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Realm_Of_Rah

I don't think the self inflicted damage is a bad concept, especially given how much damage he can put out. In order to fix the champ I would do three things:
-Taunt mechanic similar to She Hulk, maybe each rage stack makes them 15% more likely to throw a special attack
-Some mechanic to be really aggressive and disable access to opponent's Sp3 like Dragon Man or IMIW
-Damage done to himself should be capped at 8%. However he can still generate gamma radiation while at the cap himself. This mechanic gives him access to what could potentially be a really great regen mechanic which is one of his main gimmicks in the comics.

Mattstafari

Where does ihulk sit compared to Nova, Terrax and Diablo?

We've had a few complete duds in the past 12 months and rebalancing has disappeared. As much as there's a lot of noise for him, I won't be holding my breath expecting any changes.

TheInfinty

Where does ihulk sit compared to Nova, Terrax and Diablo?

We've had a few complete duds in the past 12 months and rebalancing has disappeared. As much as there's a lot of noise for him, I won't be holding my breath expecting any changes.

Way better then all 3 he’s bad but not on the level of those 3

Lunae

I get he may not be as bad as Nova, Terrax and Diablo, but just how bad does everyone really think he is? I really don’t think Kabams missed the mark on him like they have with other champions such as Silver Surfer or Sentry. My only gripe with his design is the he’s the “Immortal” Hulk, he should have full debuff resistance to pretty everything, but that’s judging him based on his comic lore. If he can survive being melted with acid or having a hole blown through him, guts spilling out, what are some bleeds going to do to him.

He’s not perfect and could use a tweak to his cooldown timer, but he’s a pretty simple champion to use with some crazy damage. I do believe that he should just go full Fury and CMM during immortality and shrug off or become immune to all debuffs while immortal and regening. If I could tweak one more thing, which is a suggestion I read in another thread, it would be to reduce the self damage he takes while on cooldown, but still receive full gamma. This would be insane. Some resistance to healblock and AAR would pretty nice too.

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FluffyPigMonster

Honestly he’s pretty good now. If you play him correctly he’s pretty sustainable. I have the 5* and tried ROL at rank 3 sig 100 and he finished the hole thing no revives no potions. Meaning you can be really good with him and last forever if you play him right.

I’m cool down i would use MLLLL a lot, and it makes me wish that ending a combo in a L gives some utility. A slow mechanic or honestly, even a weakness would work. His petrify is VERY underrated and it’s because you also inflict weakness with full combos - meaning you reverse healing.

The smashing is awesome and times correctly he obliterates regeneration champs. Look at my video with the 4* R3 vs ROL Wolverine.

I used him in incursions and lasted forever. Ate up a bunch of Degen.

I believe two things are going on here.

1. The play style of this champ is something nobody has ever seen before. It causes people to play him and not maximize his kit

2. He’s incomplete. Add a mechanic to the end of a light combo and change the degeneration to include ALL energy damage or increase Degen to 70% (like Gulk) and now you’re talking. I would rank 5 him and would quest in AQ with him.

Overall he’s good. A new style of playing. I think the two items above make him undesirable.

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FluffyPigMonster

Honestly he’s pretty good now. If you play him correctly he’s pretty sustainable. I have the 5* and tried ROL at rank 3 sig 100 and he finished the hole thing no revives no potions. Meaning you can be really good with him and last forever if you play him right.

I’m cool down i would use MLLLL a lot, and it makes me wish that ending a combo in a L gives some utility. A slow mechanic or honestly, even a weakness would work. His petrify is VERY underrated and it’s because you also inflict weakness with full combos - meaning you reverse healing.

The smashing is awesome and times correctly he obliterates regeneration champs. Look at my video with the 4* R3 vs ROL Wolverine.

I used him in incursions and lasted forever. Ate up a bunch of Degen.

I believe two things are going on here.

1. The play style of this champ is something nobody has ever seen before. It causes people to play him and not maximize his kit

2. He’s incomplete. Add a mechanic to the end of a light combo and change the degeneration to include ALL energy damage or increase Degen to 70% (like Gulk) and now you’re talking. I would rank 5 him and would quest in AQ with him.

Overall he’s good. A new style of playing. I think the two items above make him undesirable.
I dont think people are saying he is total trash. People are saying he isnt practical and has little to no use for endgame purposes. Even in 6.2 you might think twice before bringing him in. Fans will love him and use him regardless, but average summoner might just say 'another dud' which objectively he is

Totally isn’t a dud. He isn’t being utilized as intended IMHO