Act 7 - Where do we go from here?

IKON

I just completed my initial run of Act 7, taking the following paths

7.1.1 - Oscillate/Invade/Kinetic Instigator - 1 revive used (could have been easily avoided, just wanted to dive into content)
7.1.2 - Vivified/Power Suppression/Power Alternator/Unblockable - 0 revives
7.1.3 - That's gonna Sting/Backfire/Power Alternator/Power Snack - 2 revives on Aarkus boss
7.1.4 - Aspect of War/Cage Rattler/Stun Vulnerability - 0 revives
7.1.5 - Unlimited Power/Mystic Ward/Mystic Curse/Buffet - 0 revives
7.1.6 - Destructive feedback/Impatience/Small Arms/Cosmic Wrath - 0 revives

Total - 3 revives, and a few health potions

After finishing this content, I feel... Hollow. Got some great rewards, but I never actually felt challenged by the content. Completing act 6 content always felt like I achieved something.

So if this is the new direction for content, what is a player like me supposed to wait for? I feel like I've been building my roster for content that is now never going to come.

danielmath

Summer of pain is what people tell me but story content i do think is dead

DonDudu2809

Who did you use for Vision?

Hera1d_of_Ga1actus

It's the first chapter guys, Act 6 was able to get a lot harder from 6.1 to 6.4 so I have no doubt that it will get harder in later chapters

Lormif

Hera1d_of_Ga1actus said:

It's the first chapter guys, Act 6 was able to get a lot harder from 6.1 to 6.4 so I have no doubt that it will get harder in later chapters

6.1 was already *hard*, the increase in difficulty from 6.1 to 6.4 was not that large.

IKON

Hera1d_of_Ga1actus said:

It's the first chapter guys, Act 6 was able to get a lot harder from 6.1 to 6.4 so I have no doubt that it will get harder in later chapters

6.1 was not a massive step down in difficulty from 5.4

Texas_11

I think it will not get harder, but more technical. Also, wait till you 100% to see how it is. This rewards skill as opposed to just roster, so you can select a larger roster.

Deacon

The game can't and really isn't supposed to plan for skill. Be happy mate .. you're a good player. The game can only manage difficulty in regards to the content of the game. Act 7 is scaled for 6* champions ... not 6* skilled players.

I'd say just repeat Act 6 or Abyss over and over lol. Also, keep in mind Act 6 is scaled WAY above what the base of content is. It is not a benchmark for content because it's so bad and scaled so wrong. Act 6 should be Act 8.

To say Act 7 isn't hard though would not be accurate. It isn't hard for you. But I doubt that would be the consensus for most players.

Raichu626

Lormif said:

Hera1d_of_Ga1actus said:

It's the first chapter guys, Act 6 was able to get a lot harder from 6.1 to 6.4 so I have no doubt that it will get harder in later chapters

6.1 was already *hard*, the increase in difficulty from 6.1 to 6.4 was not that large.

You guys really operate on a different plane of reality, don't you? 6.1 was quite the breeze for me (probably waited too long to do it tbh), but 6.2 took and 6.3 is currently taking a lot more effort on my part.

IKON

DonDudu2809 said:

Who did you use for Vision?

I assume you mean Vision Aarkus? I tried CMM first, wasn't great. HT with prefight and Mr F prefight did most of the work.

Lormif

Raichu626 said:

Lormif said:

Hera1d_of_Ga1actus said:

It's the first chapter guys, Act 6 was able to get a lot harder from 6.1 to 6.4 so I have no doubt that it will get harder in later chapters

6.1 was already *hard*, the increase in difficulty from 6.1 to 6.4 was not that large.

You guys really operate on a different plane of reality, don't you? 6.1 was quite the breeze for me (probably waited too long to do it tbh), but 6.2 took and 6.3 is currently taking a lot more effort on my part.

I put hard in **, none of it was really hard, but still vastly more difficult than the current act 7.1, and the difficulty did not climb much between them.

Worknprogress

Finished exploration this morning. Anything I had any troubles with was from me not bothering to scout or get any info ahead of time. I highly doubt some of it will be "easy" for some people with smaller rosters but I don't think any of it was as restrictive as act 6.

Didn't even have to claim my act 6 comp yet. Guess I'm chunking that at V6

LilMaddogHT

This is a pretty fun quest. Nothing too difficult and has a Variant feel to it. Few items here or there and halfway thru and enjoying it. Definitely feel the rewards match up well for the content. Summer of Pain coming soon?

Lormif

ThunderGod said:

Hypothetically if there ever an option for people who want ultra hard story content to opt for it in game and for those that want the current version to opt for their own version of story content with same rewards,
I can almost near guarantee none of these folks ( who're crying about the difficulty being less on forums ) would choose to do the ultra hard content 😎😎

It depends on how it was structured. If the rewards were the same for both no, because while we like a challenge we are also people who believe the rewards should match the effort.

However if it was setup so that you could do both but only got the rewards once then we would probably do both, just the easier for the rewards. If you could only do one, but the rewards were scaled if you did the harder mode probably every one of us would do the harder one.

Evidence, variants.

IKON

My biggest question still remains.

What am I building my roster for?

Before, it was to be able to handle stuff like Act 6. Now?
- You can make an argument for AW, but that will forever be dominated by people willing to spend more than I am.
- Variant content suffers from the same problem as Act 7
- Summer of pain sounds great... but the frequency of the content will clearly be limited. If each season had an "of pain", or we are getting more "of legends" content, I think I could get on board with this style of act 7. Right now though I don't think this will be the case.

Difficult content needs to have a place in this game.

danielmath

IKON said:

My biggest question still remains.

What am I building my roster for?

Before, it was to be able to handle stuff like Act 6. Now?
- You can make an argument for AW, but that will forever be dominated by people willing to spend more than I am.
- Variant content suffers from the same problem as Act 7
- Summer of pain sounds great... but the frequency of the content will clearly be limited. If each season had an "of pain", or we are getting more "of legends" content, I think I could get on board with this style of act 7. Right now though I don't think this will be the case.

Difficult content needs to have a place in this game.

Actually AW has been nerfed pretty severely over the last few months. We’re now at a point where if we have 5 deaths an an alliance, we have absolutely zero chance to win against any top alliance.

SwarmOfRavens

Felt more like Variant content than a Story quest. Didn't take much effort but at least it's fun. Don't have a problem with the change of direction as long as they release actually challenging content time to time.

IKON

ThunderGod said:

Lormif said:

ThunderGod said:

Hypothetically if there ever an option for people who want ultra hard story content to opt for it in game and for those that want the current version to opt for their own version of story content with same rewards,
I can almost near guarantee none of these folks ( who're crying about the difficulty being less on forums ) would choose to do the ultra hard content 😎😎

It depends on how it was structured. If the rewards were the same for both no, because while we like a challenge we are also people who believe the rewards should match the effort.

However if it was setup so that you could do both but only got the rewards once then we would probably do both, just the easier for the rewards. If you could only do one, but the rewards were scaled if you did the harder mode probably every one of us would do the harder one.

Evidence, variants.

Agreed

But the major takeaway has to be that you're basically saying hard content exists in game in form of variants, which we have another one coming in a week I think, then why is there a problem with story content being a little vanilla for you're taste?
You have 6 pieces of content to suit your style of enjoyment.🤔

Logical thing would be to let one part be tough and one not so tough so that all can enjoy their own little piece of the battle realm right? 🤗🤗

Makes sense to me, separate hardcore sweaty boys and girls with variants. 🤞🤞

Variants are not hard, Act 7 felt like a Variant level difficulty.

Worknprogress

ThunderGod said:

Lormif said:

ThunderGod said:

Hypothetically if there ever an option for people who want ultra hard story content to opt for it in game and for those that want the current version to opt for their own version of story content with same rewards,
I can almost near guarantee none of these folks ( who're crying about the difficulty being less on forums ) would choose to do the ultra hard content 😎😎

It depends on how it was structured. If the rewards were the same for both no, because while we like a challenge we are also people who believe the rewards should match the effort.

However if it was setup so that you could do both but only got the rewards once then we would probably do both, just the easier for the rewards. If you could only do one, but the rewards were scaled if you did the harder mode probably every one of us would do the harder one.

Evidence, variants.

Agreed

But the major takeaway has to be that you're basically saying hard content exists in game in form of variants, which we have another one coming in a week I think, then why is there a problem with story content being a little vanilla for you're taste?
You have 6 pieces of content to suit your style of enjoyment.🤔

Logical thing would be to let one part be tough and one not so tough so that all can enjoy their own little piece of the battle realm right? 🤗🤗

Makes sense to me, separate hardcore sweaty boys and girls with variants. 🤞🤞

The last difficult Variant was V1

Lormif

ThunderGod said:

Lormif said:

ThunderGod said:

Hypothetically if there ever an option for people who want ultra hard story content to opt for it in game and for those that want the current version to opt for their own version of story content with same rewards,
I can almost near guarantee none of these folks ( who're crying about the difficulty being less on forums ) would choose to do the ultra hard content 😎😎

It depends on how it was structured. If the rewards were the same for both no, because while we like a challenge we are also people who believe the rewards should match the effort.

However if it was setup so that you could do both but only got the rewards once then we would probably do both, just the easier for the rewards. If you could only do one, but the rewards were scaled if you did the harder mode probably every one of us would do the harder one.

Evidence, variants.

Agreed

But the major takeaway has to be that you're basically saying hard content exists in game in form of variants, which we have another one coming in a week I think, then why is there a problem with story content being a little vanilla for you're taste?
You have 6 pieces of content to suit your style of enjoyment.🤔

Logical thing would be to let one part be tough and one not so tough so that all can enjoy their own little piece of the battle realm right? 🤗🤗

Makes sense to me, separate hardcore sweaty boys and girls with variants. 🤞🤞

No, I am not saying any such thing. Variants are not hard, however they have 2 difficulty modes, an easy, classic mode and a more difficult variant mode. I never do the classic mode and only do the variant mode.

Also no that would cause even more problems, because the harder mode would have better rewards, and that would cause the exact same situation as now. The issue has always been about the people not ablle to do the content wanting the rewards for the harder content without doing harder content.

Kill_Grey

Why do people on here think variants are not hard? 🤔

Scopeotoe987

Act 7 was fun, Act 6 for the majority was tedious.

Crcrcrc

I don't know about anyone else, but I prefer not having to flawlessly play this game as it gets more and more difficult. It is a mobile game for quick access. I don't want to spend 10 minutes on a single fight outside of the ROL/LOL/AOL area. I want it to still be hard, but at the level act 7 is at.

Lormif

Kill_Grey said:

Why do people on here think variants are not hard? 🤔

because other than v1 they are not.

SwarmOfRavens

Kill_Grey said:

Why do people on here think variants are not hard? 🤔

They've gotten progressively easier imo
Hardest part of v4 was having a 1* hulk
V5 was pretty much a freebie if you had a good mystic roster

V1 and XL variants were the last difficult ones. If you've got thing you can just cheese them though

Moot4Life

i know how you guys can make it difficult... use rank 1 5* champions