Omega Red without suicides?

BlackTuran

I just got Omega Red and I aw alarmed him. I will try to raise his sig level as much as I can. I’ve been hearing mixed opinions on whether he’s still great without suicides. I’m not gonna put on suicides any time soon since I’m very short on units and don’t have time to grind arena nowadays. What do yo guys think of Omega Red without suicides

Hammerbro_64

He does fine for the most part. Just slower getting started. I have him 4/55 high sig

IKON

I hate using OR without suicides, some people don't mind. You'll have to play around with him and see how you like it.

DualityCope

I mean I prob wouldn't bring him in at all without suicides. He's an entirely different charcter

odishika123

Took mine to 5/65 SIG 200 no suicides
Never regretted it

Scarcity27

imo he's still pretty great, even without suicides. They would be a nice addition, but not required at all.

Rayaan_2000

I've used him without suicides for months as a rank 5 sig 160 and I haven't felt the need to unlock suicides for him except in one or two fights ( energise magik in 6.2.6 particularly), still perfectly usable in my opinion, just loses the damage that makes him look so overpowered

Sarvanga1_

He is ok. But if you have other op mutants like colossus,magneto, archangel you should upgrade them first.

The_Sentry06

He still has all his utility. His damage is still great without suicides albeit it's less than with suicides. He is still worth ranking up IMO. Play with him and see if you like him first though.

Giuliameij

Pretty simple. You can use him maximally anywhere if you run suicides. Without them he will only work maximally if you do a bleed heavy path. If you do map 5 take the bleed lane in section 2 and he is great. Biohazard is amazing with him. Like others have said. He is just slower without them. But if fights are longer he works just about the same. But if it are <30sec fights, there is a world of difference in speed.

SidDDragon

IMO he needs ST synergy more than suicides...yes suicides make him a completely different champ but he is still a top mutant without them(with ST synergy)...he still bypasses so much passive damage,still has his most unique dot which only a handful champs can avoid,still has his immunities and still has his regen...I have used him in 6.3 and 7.1 exploration without suicides and he slays the defenders...but the thing to note is that his playstyle is not suited to many as he has a relatively poor block proficiency and that shows when used by a non experienced omega user without suicides

Polygon

SidDDragon said:

IMO he needs ST synergy more than suicides...yes suicides make him a completely different champ but he is still a top mutant without them(with ST synergy)...he still bypasses so much passive damage,still has his most unique dot which only a handful champs can avoid,still has his immunities and still has his regen...I have used him in 6.3 and 7.1 exploration without suicides and he slays the defenders...but the thing to note is that his playstyle is not suited to many as he has a relatively poor block proficiency and that shows when used by a non experienced omega user without suicides

Agreed, ST makes him still a top tier mutant without suicides

Kerneas

Took mine to r4 sig 100 and it is my greatest regret. But he did well in cav eq, so there he might be helpful. But else I would advise you against ranking him. But it is my personal opinion, I may be wrong

IceBro

GagoH said:

SidDDragon said:

IMO he needs ST synergy more than suicides...yes suicides make him a completely different champ but he is still a top mutant without them(with ST synergy)...he still bypasses so much passive damage,still has his most unique dot which only a handful champs can avoid,still has his immunities and still has his regen...I have used him in 6.3 and 7.1 exploration without suicides and he slays the defenders...but the thing to note is that his playstyle is not suited to many as he has a relatively poor block proficiency and that shows when used by a non experienced omega user without suicides

Agreed, ST makes him still a top tier mutant without suicides

He doesn't need Sabretooth to be a top tier mutant though. I quit suicides a long time ago and Omega is still as dominant of a champ on my roster. Though I do tend to use him with red guardian to get the purify immunity quicker.

Ksp_2099

He is good rankup champion, atleast go for r4, you will find uses out of him, even without suicides.
His utility is already there.
Just suicides makes him even more better.

007md92

I maxed mine out. Use him without suicides i like him. Very useful for cav monthly eq mutant quest.

Rockypantherx

All omega needs is a high sig. I ran suicides for all of act 6 100%, and he was my second most used champ behind Ghost. Was using him all the time in AW, AQ, EQ, SQ.

I haven’t used him more since I got suicides since he was already so dominant everywhere. Well worth the rank up, investing in him was definitely one of the best decisions I’ve ever made for my account

WarBros23

I haven't really got the opportunity to fully test him out yet, but I have him at 5 star rank 5, approximately sig 150, and he does some great work in tough matchups against Korg, Electro, and some pesky node combinations. He's also a blast in the Cav EQ, but I slightly regret it because I don't know to what extent he'll really help my roster, but I'm waiting to see, since I'm still on 6.2. After reading these comments, I'm hopeful that he'll do good work for me in act 6 and beyond so we'll have to see.

Player1994

Omega Red is way better than a lot of mutant even unduped took my 6* to r3 was my first and i can't describe how much stuff i did with him (unduped) was a huge help in clearing all bleed/biohazard/... nodes
i only awakened him after exploring abyss and that was the last thing i did on mcoc ( used him against gm he's tanky)

Mauled

He’s ok without suicides at high sig, 10 spores locked in still does good damage you just don’t have the easy access to the massive burst at the start and the healing.

Polygon

So how many of you that run OR bring Sabretooth alongside as well? For story mode

Rockypantherx

GagoH said:

So how many of you that run OR bring Sabretooth alongside as well? For both story mode and AW

Never.