Are those players in the 7.2 closed beta going to be excluded from the legend run? As that’s an extreme advantage they will have over the rest of the player base
Seatin streamed the chapter, so if you want that 'advantage' you can check that out. Besides things might change in the final release.
Are those players in the 7.2 closed beta going to be excluded from the legend run? As that’s an extreme advantage they will have over the rest of the player base Lagacy ran through every lane I think? Every player is gonna have to scout ahead and find a plan that works for them and him doing that gave everyone, that has access to YouTube, access to the beta map with all the nodes and champs. That's more of an advantage than anyone should be given, but nowhere in the legends run say it has to be a blind run, so a beta (that everyone can see) that's subject to change isn't a huge advantage
Actually you all missing this. I talking the small group that is doing 7.2.6 boss that no one else in the main beta got to do. That’s the group am asking about. The one kabam posted in announcements about....then knowing that fight is an unfair advantage to anyone else
Are those players in the 7.2 closed beta going to be excluded from the legend run? As that’s an extreme advantage they will have over the rest of the player base So, let me be the devil's advocate here and ask what about the players who tested the content in beta who will lose out on the legends rewards through no fault of their own? Should they get something for doing something they don't have to do, but did it because of their love for the game? Shouldn't Kabam be responsible for testing out content with their own employees?. Let me tell you that I have no interest in going for Legends runs, but if someone says you can play in beta, but you will be disqualified from legends runs, I won't sign up.
How many content creators have tested content and then done a Legends run?
Legacy didn't get a legends title and he was in the Beta for 7.1. 1 case is not proof. Nobody is saying doing the beta guarantees you getting legend title. Maybe if he didn’t do the beta he would have got an even slower time.
Legacy didn't get a legends title and he was in the Beta for 7.1.
Legacy didn't get a legends title and he was in the Beta for 7.1. 1 case is not proof. Nobody is saying doing the beta guarantees you getting legend title. Maybe if he didn’t do the beta he would have got an even slower time. That's pretty much what this thread is about. The beta gives some unfair advantage. I've been in almost all the betas. I don't see a ton of people from the betas getting the title. It's no more of an advantage than others having a better roster. Yeah but you aren’t in a position to say whether it offers enough of an advantage that it’s unfair. Kabam has the data, they can see the percentage of those who get legend title. They should compare the % of people who attempted a run. Split it into 4 categories, 1) those in the beta who got legend title2) those not in beta who got legend title3) those in beta who missed out on legends run4) those not in beta who missed out1 and 2 should be roughly similar, 3 and 4 should be roughly similar. Over all the legends runs kabam has done that had betas first there should be a pretty decent sample. Then, from all those who did a legends run, compare average time of people who were in the beta, with average time of those out of the beta. Again, they should be statistically similar. It’s pretty simple to perform a statistical test on it. And I’m not gonna be taking “I don’t see a ton of people from betas getting the title” as gospel. It is reasonable enough to say that doing content makes you more experienced at it. That is a fact. If I never fought a fight, then did it on a beta, I am more experienced at it. It is reasonable to suggest this could give an advantage, again this is not an opinion. It is a fact that this could be an advantage. It’s then up to kabam to analyse it and see if they’re giving players an advantage to do the content before others can.
Legacy didn't get a legends title and he was in the Beta for 7.1. 1 case is not proof. Nobody is saying doing the beta guarantees you getting legend title. Maybe if he didn’t do the beta he would have got an even slower time. That's pretty much what this thread is about. The beta gives some unfair advantage. I've been in almost all the betas. I don't see a ton of people from the betas getting the title. It's no more of an advantage than others having a better roster.
Your options are1) use the current system, have a lot players beta test and a small subset compete for legends.2) have significantly fewer players in the beta, and run the risk of improperly tuned contentSeems like a no brainer option 1 to me, unless you are clamoring for the original 7.1 to be the norm.
Your options are1) use the current system, have a lot players beta test and a small subset compete for legends.2) have significantly fewer players in the beta, and run the risk of improperly tuned contentSeems like a no brainer option 1 to me, unless you are clamoring for the original 7.1 to be the norm. 2 brackets, beta testers and non beta testers
Your options are1) use the current system, have a lot players beta test and a small subset compete for legends.2) have significantly fewer players in the beta, and run the risk of improperly tuned contentSeems like a no brainer option 1 to me, unless you are clamoring for the original 7.1 to be the norm. Or, when people sign up for Beta testing, make it very clear that they won't be able to do a legends run, put a warning on the email/message. That way, everyone knows that by taking part they will gain an unfair advantage and they can decide whether they would prioritise giving feedback or doing the beta.
Legacy didn't get a legends title and he was in the Beta for 7.1. 1 case is not proof. Nobody is saying doing the beta guarantees you getting legend title. Maybe if he didn’t do the beta he would have got an even slower time. That's pretty much what this thread is about. The beta gives some unfair advantage. I've been in almost all the betas. I don't see a ton of people from the betas getting the title. It's no more of an advantage than others having a better roster. Yeah but you aren’t in a position to say whether it offers enough of an advantage that it’s unfair. Kabam has the data, they can see the percentage of those who get legend title. They should compare the % of people who attempted a run. Split it into 4 categories, 1) those in the beta who got legend title2) those not in beta who got legend title3) those in beta who missed out on legends run4) those not in beta who missed out1 and 2 should be roughly similar, 3 and 4 should be roughly similar. Over all the legends runs kabam has done that had betas first there should be a pretty decent sample. Then, from all those who did a legends run, compare average time of people who were in the beta, with average time of those out of the beta. Again, they should be statistically similar. It’s pretty simple to perform a statistical test on it. And I’m not gonna be taking “I don’t see a ton of people from betas getting the title” as gospel. It is reasonable enough to say that doing content makes you more experienced at it. That is a fact. If I never fought a fight, then did it on a beta, I am more experienced at it. It is reasonable to suggest this could give an advantage, again this is not an opinion. It is a fact that this could be an advantage. It’s then up to kabam to analyse it and see if they’re giving players an advantage to do the content before others can. But your saying people in the beta have a advantage as gospel but you don't have any proof that those in the beta get the title vs those that aren't. You're just saying they do because the betas exist. I'm sure if there was a distinct advantage for beta users getting the title, Kabam would have done something about it long ago. Seeing as they banned a ton of people for merc'ing and whatnot for the last beta, they are trying their best to make getting the title as fair as possible. I'll point you back to my post"It is reasonable enough to say that doing content makes you more experienced at it. That is a fact. If I never fought a fight, then did it on a beta, I am more experienced at it. It is reasonable to suggest this could give an advantage, again this is not an opinion. It is a fact that this could be an advantage. It’s then up to kabam to analyse it and see if they’re giving players an advantage to do the content before others can. "Please point out where I said it as gospel, rather than just stating facts. It is reasonable to suggest it gives an advantage. Which part do you disagree with?Doing content makes you more experienced? or being experienced at something when others are not is an advantage?
Legacy didn't get a legends title and he was in the Beta for 7.1. 1 case is not proof. Nobody is saying doing the beta guarantees you getting legend title. Maybe if he didn’t do the beta he would have got an even slower time. That's pretty much what this thread is about. The beta gives some unfair advantage. I've been in almost all the betas. I don't see a ton of people from the betas getting the title. It's no more of an advantage than others having a better roster. Yeah but you aren’t in a position to say whether it offers enough of an advantage that it’s unfair. Kabam has the data, they can see the percentage of those who get legend title. They should compare the % of people who attempted a run. Split it into 4 categories, 1) those in the beta who got legend title2) those not in beta who got legend title3) those in beta who missed out on legends run4) those not in beta who missed out1 and 2 should be roughly similar, 3 and 4 should be roughly similar. Over all the legends runs kabam has done that had betas first there should be a pretty decent sample. Then, from all those who did a legends run, compare average time of people who were in the beta, with average time of those out of the beta. Again, they should be statistically similar. It’s pretty simple to perform a statistical test on it. And I’m not gonna be taking “I don’t see a ton of people from betas getting the title” as gospel. It is reasonable enough to say that doing content makes you more experienced at it. That is a fact. If I never fought a fight, then did it on a beta, I am more experienced at it. It is reasonable to suggest this could give an advantage, again this is not an opinion. It is a fact that this could be an advantage. It’s then up to kabam to analyse it and see if they’re giving players an advantage to do the content before others can. But your saying people in the beta have a advantage as gospel but you don't have any proof that those in the beta get the title vs those that aren't. You're just saying they do because the betas exist. I'm sure if there was a distinct advantage for beta users getting the title, Kabam would have done something about it long ago. Seeing as they banned a ton of people for merc'ing and whatnot for the last beta, they are trying their best to make getting the title as fair as possible.
Legacy didn't get a legends title and he was in the Beta for 7.1. 1 case is not proof. Nobody is saying doing the beta guarantees you getting legend title. Maybe if he didn’t do the beta he would have got an even slower time. That's pretty much what this thread is about. The beta gives some unfair advantage. I've been in almost all the betas. I don't see a ton of people from the betas getting the title. It's no more of an advantage than others having a better roster. Yeah but you aren’t in a position to say whether it offers enough of an advantage that it’s unfair. Kabam has the data, they can see the percentage of those who get legend title. They should compare the % of people who attempted a run. Split it into 4 categories, 1) those in the beta who got legend title2) those not in beta who got legend title3) those in beta who missed out on legends run4) those not in beta who missed out1 and 2 should be roughly similar, 3 and 4 should be roughly similar. Over all the legends runs kabam has done that had betas first there should be a pretty decent sample. Then, from all those who did a legends run, compare average time of people who were in the beta, with average time of those out of the beta. Again, they should be statistically similar. It’s pretty simple to perform a statistical test on it. And I’m not gonna be taking “I don’t see a ton of people from betas getting the title” as gospel. It is reasonable enough to say that doing content makes you more experienced at it. That is a fact. If I never fought a fight, then did it on a beta, I am more experienced at it. It is reasonable to suggest this could give an advantage, again this is not an opinion. It is a fact that this could be an advantage. It’s then up to kabam to analyse it and see if they’re giving players an advantage to do the content before others can. But your saying people in the beta have a advantage as gospel but you don't have any proof that those in the beta get the title vs those that aren't. You're just saying they do because the betas exist. I'm sure if there was a distinct advantage for beta users getting the title, Kabam would have done something about it long ago. Seeing as they banned a ton of people for merc'ing and whatnot for the last beta, they are trying their best to make getting the title as fair as possible. I'll point you back to my post"It is reasonable enough to say that doing content makes you more experienced at it. That is a fact. If I never fought a fight, then did it on a beta, I am more experienced at it. It is reasonable to suggest this could give an advantage, again this is not an opinion. It is a fact that this could be an advantage. It’s then up to kabam to analyse it and see if they’re giving players an advantage to do the content before others can. "Please point out where I said it as gospel, rather than just stating facts. It is reasonable to suggest it gives an advantage. Which part do you disagree with?Doing content makes you more experienced? or being experienced at something when others are not is an advantage? I don't think the beta gives anyone an advantage. Do you have proof that it does? Would you rather go into a fight having fought the fight unlimited times beforehand or go in having only watched videos?
Legacy didn't get a legends title and he was in the Beta for 7.1. 1 case is not proof. Nobody is saying doing the beta guarantees you getting legend title. Maybe if he didn’t do the beta he would have got an even slower time. That's pretty much what this thread is about. The beta gives some unfair advantage. I've been in almost all the betas. I don't see a ton of people from the betas getting the title. It's no more of an advantage than others having a better roster. Yeah but you aren’t in a position to say whether it offers enough of an advantage that it’s unfair. Kabam has the data, they can see the percentage of those who get legend title. They should compare the % of people who attempted a run. Split it into 4 categories, 1) those in the beta who got legend title2) those not in beta who got legend title3) those in beta who missed out on legends run4) those not in beta who missed out1 and 2 should be roughly similar, 3 and 4 should be roughly similar. Over all the legends runs kabam has done that had betas first there should be a pretty decent sample. Then, from all those who did a legends run, compare average time of people who were in the beta, with average time of those out of the beta. Again, they should be statistically similar. It’s pretty simple to perform a statistical test on it. And I’m not gonna be taking “I don’t see a ton of people from betas getting the title” as gospel. It is reasonable enough to say that doing content makes you more experienced at it. That is a fact. If I never fought a fight, then did it on a beta, I am more experienced at it. It is reasonable to suggest this could give an advantage, again this is not an opinion. It is a fact that this could be an advantage. It’s then up to kabam to analyse it and see if they’re giving players an advantage to do the content before others can. But your saying people in the beta have a advantage as gospel but you don't have any proof that those in the beta get the title vs those that aren't. You're just saying they do because the betas exist. I'm sure if there was a distinct advantage for beta users getting the title, Kabam would have done something about it long ago. Seeing as they banned a ton of people for merc'ing and whatnot for the last beta, they are trying their best to make getting the title as fair as possible. I'll point you back to my post"It is reasonable enough to say that doing content makes you more experienced at it. That is a fact. If I never fought a fight, then did it on a beta, I am more experienced at it. It is reasonable to suggest this could give an advantage, again this is not an opinion. It is a fact that this could be an advantage. It’s then up to kabam to analyse it and see if they’re giving players an advantage to do the content before others can. "Please point out where I said it as gospel, rather than just stating facts. It is reasonable to suggest it gives an advantage. Which part do you disagree with?Doing content makes you more experienced? or being experienced at something when others are not is an advantage? I don't think the beta gives anyone an advantage. Do you have proof that it does?
Your options are1) use the current system, have a lot players beta test and a small subset compete for legends.2) have significantly fewer players in the beta, and run the risk of improperly tuned contentSeems like a no brainer option 1 to me, unless you are clamoring for the original 7.1 to be the norm. Or, when people sign up for Beta testing, make it very clear that they won't be able to do a legends run, put a warning on the email/message. That way, everyone knows that by taking part they will gain an unfair advantage and they can decide whether they would prioritise giving feedback or doing the beta. I would never touch another beta with a 10 foot pole, and I have never seriously attempted a run. It's beyond short sighted to think you'll get correct feedback and also disqualify people. But why? If you want to do a legends run, you shouldn't be able to have a test run first. I think that's fair enough. It should be level ground. I would use an analogy with a race or an obstacle course or a maze, but really i shouldnt need to. This is basic logic and it baffles me how people don't see it. Experience in something is better than no experience.
Your options are1) use the current system, have a lot players beta test and a small subset compete for legends.2) have significantly fewer players in the beta, and run the risk of improperly tuned contentSeems like a no brainer option 1 to me, unless you are clamoring for the original 7.1 to be the norm. Or, when people sign up for Beta testing, make it very clear that they won't be able to do a legends run, put a warning on the email/message. That way, everyone knows that by taking part they will gain an unfair advantage and they can decide whether they would prioritise giving feedback or doing the beta. I would never touch another beta with a 10 foot pole, and I have never seriously attempted a run. It's beyond short sighted to think you'll get correct feedback and also disqualify people.