Champion Update Concern

Remember last year when Kabam first started updating champions?

An the moment came, they updated Colossus — and he became a god! Kabam decided not to update the 1* version because “it’ll be too complex for new players.”

Black Panther was just updated yesterday with the new update. Kabam also updated the 1*. Y’all don’t think that’ll be too complex and difficult for new players?

I wonder are they gone revert him now, update Colossus, or delete this post.

Comments

Andyball270

Yeah but lets be realistic at the levels that a 1* is useful to a new plater there is absolutley no need to learn how to unlcok his best damage lol its block and hit and THATS IT

Colinwhitworth69

For the brief time players use a 1 or 2 star champ, this will be no big deal.

Terra

Imo, the reason for them not doing the 1* version of Colossus was because of the to be shortly released * variant.
He'd smack a majority of the paths in there, and Kabam doesn't want people to go through Variants quickly with the rewards they give.

ChubsWhite

DING, DING, DING!!!

You sir, are absolutely correct. They know exactly what they’re doing, lol. I just wanted to get their reasoning, even tho I know!

Jaded

Or who cares? Why do you care if they update the 1* or not? Their game, their choice. You’re merely a tiny pawn in it all, don’t act like you’re some hot shot ding ding.

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Terra

The double-edged sword of faster progress these days.

ChubsWhite

Lol, you okay bro, who hurt you? You go through life being okay with everything, and accepting everything, that’s fine. But don’t get mad because I have an opinion

Kabam Miike

Not nearly as much. Keep in mind, the majority of players using 1-Star Champions are within their first hours. They learn about things like DOT Debuffs and Immunities with 1-Stars. What they don't learn about is Parry and Stun. That happens later, usually in the 2 Star Range.

While we all could look back and say "That's easy! New players can deal with Parry!", that's taking advanced knowledge into account, and not the average first-time experience of a new player.

SpideyFunko

but intercepting

Kabam Miike

Intercepting helps you play the Champion well, it doesn't add something like a Stun, which you have never encountered before.

Terra

Considering how fast a normal player can get through acts 1-3, it's entirely possible for them to only play 1*s for a couple hours at best before moving on to 3*s. It's all because of the accelerated progression the game has recieved, so that first part doesn't make sense. Add that guides exist everywhere for this game so a new player learns very quickly.
There is a difference between guiding a newer player and handholding them the entire time.

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Jaded

Not mad at all, your opinion just doesn’t matter. They have teams that are paid to make these decisions. You just feel entitled to question their decisions.

BitterSteel

I mean, players starting the game haven’t encountered anything before. High progressing players today struggle with intercepting, but you don’t see them struggle with parrying.

Any new player that goes on the forums or Reddit and says what shall I do, they get told to unlock dex and parry. The two fundamental abilities in the game, they don’t get told to intercept.

Kabam Miike

This is not the average experience of a new player. Most new players do not finish Act 3 in their first day or two (though we want to push people that way in the future), and do not look at guides.

Kabam Miike

That is not what most players do though.

Terra

The average experience for a newer player is highly individual. I dunno, when people encounter a new game they find interesting, and they see it's somewhat complex, guides usually are something they search up quite fast. Beginners guides for example. People pick up skills fast with repeated usage. Interesting note about act 3.

No_oneuk

A stun you've never encountered before

An intercept you've never encountered before

So why would one be harder to learn than the other? And why do you think it's that way round?

A few years ago when I was growing up in the game folks usually said you'd do good to learn parry around act 2/3, and you'd do good to learn to intercept around the end of act 5 / start of act 6. Obviously that's just the opinions of Youtubers and other experienced players, but it seemed generally accepted and agreed upon... at least, at the time.

I believe personally that intercepting is significantly harder to pull off than parrying is - there's a higher window for failure with intercepting. If you mess up a parry you're probably going to take some blocked hits. If you mess up an intercept that's a whole combo you're taking to your face, maybe even a special attack...

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Kabam Miike

New players also don't know what an intercept is. They're not going to fail it unless they try. A parry stun can occur without ever trying.

I get what you guys are going for, but you're solely looking at this through the lens of an experienced player, or a player that is aware of what to do when you start a new game and want the best info available. This is not the common experience of most people that download a new game on their Mobile devices.

Voltolos

You have to pick one. Something cant be completely acceptable and unpopular at the same time, especially if its a decicion

Jaded

You have to unlock masteries for parry, you can intercept out the gate. People giving advice as to when you should learn it are different stories. It’s not what the company sees, as per what miike is saying.

ChaosMax1012

This is good for v4, not complaining

BitterSteel

Fair enough, hadn’t considered that

Crcrcrc

Yes, but parry and dexing are required to progress and you are forced to learn them. Intercepts are never required to learn to progress

GroundedWisdom

This. I've made this point many times. While Players have a great deal more information than when I started, and it depends on their own time and motivation, there's an average rate that new Players develop. Most often people look through their own lenses and experience, and compare how easy it is for them to advance an Alt. Only, people who are just picking up the game don't have the same knowledge and experience.

SpideyFunko

you do need to intercept in the grandmaster fight tbf

Pulyaman

Updated colossus can stun on well timed blocks. He does not need the parry mastery.

Crcrcrc

Lol true but you need to be able to parry and dex by like act 4