Sunspot, Or Human Torch

Listen guys I know this is a bit controversial, but honestly I kinda like sunspot better. Look, most of you are going to say Human Torch right, but here's the thing, Sunspot hits like a truck, and has great synergies, and has an asstounding special 2. On the other hand, Human Torch hits pretty good, his incinerate is more potent, and all his specials are decent. (Bonus thing on Human Torch, you take incinerate when you hit him.)

So I guess it's up to you, who's better, Human Torch, or Sunspot. 😎👍

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Comments

IronGladiator22

I love both, and sunspot was my first r4. He is still at r4 and I have a 5* torch at r5. I think torch is better, because he has a little more usage and utility, and can hard counter an entire class. Also, while Sunspot does hit extremely hard, Human torches Nova flames can melt people incredibly fast. While he doesn’t make most of his damage through contact, I wouldn’t say that his damage is “pretty good”. I think they are both great, but I think you are underrating torch a little bit

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Hoitado

Torch has more Utility and is better in the End Game Content but Sunspot is one of the best Lane Clearers in the game and is probably better in Early Game

Even though they both Incinerate they are WAY to different to compare to each other

JragonMaster170

Prakhar_82

Sunspot is a bit outdated these days. All he has is big yellow numbers and perfect block. Talking about HT, he can reverse heal, melts mystic, nova flames just shred through the opponent, counters miss, counters one of the most annoying defenders such as ebony maw, Dormammu, Mojo which sunspot can't.

IKON

Have both Sunspot and HT at R3, and it's not that close, HT is the much more useful champ.

Buttehrs

I have both. Torch at 5r5 and sunspot at 6r2. Most times I have both on my team for quests. Sunspot is majestic for lane clearing and boss fights depending on the boss and nodes. Torch however just shreds bosses and problematic fights/nodes with his pre flight. If you forced me to choose one, I'd go with Torch simply because of nova flames. There isn't a single champ or node that is immune to them currently.

Hoitado

Sunspot is a bit outdated these days. All he has is big yellow numbers and perfect block. Talking about HT, he can reverse heal, melts mystic, nova flames just shred through the opponent, counters miss, counters one of the most annoying defenders such as ebony maw, Dormammu, Mojo which sunspot can't.

That’s so untrue. He isn’t outdated at all. He doesn’t have as much Utility as Torch but he isn’t supposed to be what Torch is

He has Perfect Block, Incinerate Immunity, Block Penetration, and Prowess. He isn’t supposed to be a Mystic Counter like Torch they are sooooo different. That’s like me saying Aegon is outdated because Quake can do all this stuff that Aegon can’t. They have different purposes

Sunspot and Torch don’t share the same purpose

IKON

Have both Sunspot and HT at R3, and it's not that close, HT is the much more useful champ.

Elaborating on this, Sunspot is a good champ for most fights, solid 8/10 option, but doesn't really excel at any matchups.

HT on the other hand is a 4/10 in 60% of fights, and an 10/10 in 40%.

I value HT more because he obliterates mystics and energy attackers, and the fights sunspot does well in, there is someone else who probably does just as well.

Berjibs

Torch solves so many more problems.

AGYAAT

Actually both have different usage for different scenario

Sunspot is basically a perfect lane cleaner if you are good at doing paries.. quick burst damage with few utility (immunity, perfect block, debuffs)

On the other hand HT is perfect against mystic and champs who use energy based attack (specially in basic hit combo)
but some people also use him for miss counter and heal reverse.. but if you have strong rosters then probably you will use other champs for miss & regeneration counter and will not waste his prefight for some good damage..

TitoBandito187

HT has more uses for me. I have a max 5* and an R2 6* that I plan to take to R3 as my first science. Mystics melt. And that prefight melts everyone else. Also counters evade and miss.

Sunspot has nice perfect block and a huge sp2. But can be tricky on nodes you can't parry. On certain fights with power drain or in AW where it's hard to throw a special, you can run out of charges and then the fight can go sideways if you can't get to an SP3.

Ultimately, go with the play style you prefer or the utility you need.

TrashyPanda

HT; Sunspot is easier to replace.

Sunspot looks cooler though.

Aleor

Both are great, but it looks like you ignore nova flame, wich can bypass a lot of annoying things

Iron_J3

Late to this - Torch and Sunspot are both badasses! Can’t go wrong with either. Recently pulled both as 4* (almost done with Act 4) and both are quickly becoming my favorite champs. Along with BW Claire V and Spidey 2099. We all like who we like in the game. Nothing wrong with that. I’d lean Sunspot though if forced to have HT or SS.

ZAHIDMALIK1588

I know you want to hear "rank who you like" but it's not gonna happen, not today, No sir!

TitoBandito187

Late to this - Torch and Sunspot are both badasses! Can’t go wrong with either. Recently pulled both as 4* (almost done with Act 4) and both are quickly becoming my favorite champs. Along with BW Claire V and Spidey 2099. We all like who we like in the game. Nothing wrong with that. I’d lean Sunspot though if forced to have HT or SS.

⚰️ R.I.P. this thread

Bro, not just late - this thread is dead by 1.5 years. Let it rest in peace. As a 4* both are fine cause the content isn't that difficult and you can blast through most of it with a couple big specials.

When you're weighing 6* R4 materials, Sunspot ain't worth them anymore. He shines in a couple specific nodes, but there are too many better mutants now anyway.

Torch is miles above Sunspot in every way... Synergies, power control, heal counter, mystic melter, nova flame destroyer, miss counter, etc.

GrassKnuckles

Sunspot's gonna have more damage in general matchups but when Torch fights where torch likes to fight hes much better

Mobile_P0tat0

I've never understood why everyone compares these two. They have very different uses and kits, the big similarity is that they are both fiery boys.

Yuvraj_267

Torch is simply most used war champion bcoz he is the counter of that class which have highest number of defenders

Zuro

Torch is simply most used war champion bcoz he is the counter of that class which have highest number of defenders

3 year old post...

captain_rogers

Torch is simply most used war champion bcoz he is the counter of that class which have highest number of defenders

You are repeatedly necroing threads. It's time to stawp