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[MERGED] Parry Issue Fix

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  • PulyamanPulyaman Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    The most amusing thing is... more people are excited to get compensation than the Summer Event items. Says a lot really.

    The problem is, people expect a lot from these as time goes on. Tempering your expectation should be a basic now. The multitude of compensation threads are not helping it.
  • PulyamanPulyaman Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★

    Pulyaman said:

    Pulyaman said:



    I was always in support of compensating or at least increasing the inventory temporarily once it crossed 14 days. It's not a popular opinion, but I was a little surprised when Kabam compensated for a failed AQ week, but people said that since it was a major resource giver, it made sense to compensate AQ and Kabam have continued to do so. I don't consider SEQ and MEQ as difficult content, so I don't see any reason to not complete it even with the current issues.

    Have u ever completed any SEQ and MEQ after turning off your parry and dexterity mastery. Not saying that bug completely closes those masteries but u will get a hand on experience of how bad those bugs affected some players.
    Some players, yes. My point is even if players completed those content using revives, they should be getting back those and not the shards. Revives and potions have value in the game far more than crystal shards which are rng dependent. You can use those items to clear content. So, they are far more valuable. You can earn the same rewards from next month's EQ and use the compensated items to clear other content. That's just me though. I would definitely prefer items over shards.
    I think you should also consider player's mental status too
    There's difference between anger over getting bad champ due to RNG of game and getting screwed out of nowhere due to a bug which is like celebrating it's 1 month birthday in game.
    Sure, I am just saying what I feel will be more valuable to majority of the players in the long run. Shards will come, there is no question about that. But, we should not expect a lot which always happens when there is talk of compensation. Shards are exciting, potions and revives are boring. But, shards disappoint more often than not, items help you clear difficult content. I am willing to forego the shards if it gives me more items. Again, personal opinion.
  • BuggyDClownBuggyDClown Member Posts: 2,310 ★★★★★
    Pulyaman said:

    Pulyaman said:

    Pulyaman said:



    I was always in support of compensating or at least increasing the inventory temporarily once it crossed 14 days. It's not a popular opinion, but I was a little surprised when Kabam compensated for a failed AQ week, but people said that since it was a major resource giver, it made sense to compensate AQ and Kabam have continued to do so. I don't consider SEQ and MEQ as difficult content, so I don't see any reason to not complete it even with the current issues.

    Have u ever completed any SEQ and MEQ after turning off your parry and dexterity mastery. Not saying that bug completely closes those masteries but u will get a hand on experience of how bad those bugs affected some players.
    Some players, yes. My point is even if players completed those content using revives, they should be getting back those and not the shards. Revives and potions have value in the game far more than crystal shards which are rng dependent. You can use those items to clear content. So, they are far more valuable. You can earn the same rewards from next month's EQ and use the compensated items to clear other content. That's just me though. I would definitely prefer items over shards.
    I think you should also consider player's mental status too
    There's difference between anger over getting bad champ due to RNG of game and getting screwed out of nowhere due to a bug which is like celebrating it's 1 month birthday in game.
    Sure, I am just saying what I feel will be more valuable to majority of the players in the long run. Shards will come, there is no question about that. But, we should not expect a lot which always happens when there is talk of compensation. Shards are exciting, potions and revives are boring. But, shards disappoint more often than not, items help you clear difficult content. I am willing to forego the shards if it gives me more items. Again, personal opinion.
    Problem is that people's mentality regarding compensation structure is different based hoon their progression and needs. I kind of agree with you that revives are essential for content meanwhile shards will come eventually. Personally I have lot of revives saved so I want some shards to get some decent champ to work upon. But you are right on the point that how long run should be prioritize
  • PulyamanPulyaman Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★

    Pulyaman said:



    Some players, yes. My point is even if players completed those content using revives, they should be getting back those and not the shards. Revives and potions have value in the game far more than crystal shards which are rng dependent. You can use those items to clear content. So, they are far more valuable. You can earn the same rewards from next month's EQ and use the compensated items to clear other content. That's just me though. I would definitely prefer items over shards.

    I am talking about u and not others since u said seq and meq are so easy that they can be easily completed with those bugs. Some players completed SOP emma with 3* so will that mean that SOP emma was easy?

    Also as was advised by kabam that players should remain away from the difficult content so many may have missed on those monthly rewards so they did not lost revives but lost actual shards.

    Also I dont understand why u think resources lost because SEQ and MEQ should not be considered because they can be earned next month. Its not that next month will give 2 times the total resources for making up the last month.
    Again, SEQ and MEQ are easy. I have players who have completed everything last month with the bugs. Kabam advised people to stay away from difficult content, SEQ and MEQ are not difficult content. You can always choose to do it using items if you find it difficult and then ask for compensation, which is fair. Not even attempting them and asking for the shards is a little odd though.
    No idea why you are asking about the EF fight. The more skilled you are, the easier it gets. I found the fight very difficult at first, and once I got enough practice in, I finished the fight.
  • SearmenisSearmenis Member Posts: 1,607 ★★★★★
    Rillian said:

    This dex parry bug marks the first time this year that I have not only failed to 100% cav eq, but also the first time I have failed to complete a single run through since launch.

    For those that haven’t experienced the bug, imagine you choose an easy path in familiar content and either lose or nearly lose every fight. Or walking down the road in broad daylight and then falling down a succession of camouflaged manholes.

    Those failed attempts cost time and resources.

    After repeated attempts, I have soloed the majority of the SoP fights. Emma Frost however, for whatever reason cost me 45 revives for a single clear. 45 revives. And yes, I can dex her sp1. Yes I understand how the nodes work. I couldn’t bring myself to do the last objective. I’m a little bit deflated as it looks like I’ll end SoP with 26 points.

    I’m feeling a little burnt out right now. I’ve got no specific demands for compensation. I’m not really sure what would work for me, but The OPs suggestion of 2k 6* shards and 5 revives does feel more than a little thin.

    Emma was a completely different issue. There's a thread somewhere here, for this "new" AI upgrade/bug/whoknows nobody answers when asked, where the defender attacks when you try to intercept, starts a special middle-combo etc etc.
  • Grootman1294Grootman1294 Member Posts: 898 ★★★★
    Fix is coming today or tomorrow, y'all can stop asking now lol
  • StarLord_OutlwStarLord_Outlw Member Posts: 58
    Just want to give a thanks to Kabam for keeping focus on the players while working on a fix. It's usually difficult to find the issue and develop a quick solution any time a fundamental function of a game engine, primary process, etc is changed and affects any software, because every interaction in the application needs retested after the time it takes to develop the solution.

    Thanks for the weekly compensation to help offset the resource usage, extending SOP an extra week when the issue first surfaced to give players time to react, and delaying summoner showdown and the war season to keep the competition fair.
  • Cody4prezCody4prez Member Posts: 17
    Whatever the compensation looks like, can we please get them broken into two compensation packages of health pots/revives and shards? I would like to have the option of waiting to have revives/health pots go into my stash and not expire of possible. I know it would likely be too complex to increase inventory or expand the expiration time frame. Having the option to claim over 30 days then use within 14 days could help manage our inventory better. @Kabam Miike
  • PulyamanPulyaman Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    Searmenis said:

    Pulyaman said:

    Jeal79 said:

    Pulyaman said:



    Again, SEQ and MEQ are easy. I have players who have completed everything last month with the bugs. Kabam advised people to stay away from difficult content, SEQ and MEQ are not difficult content. You can always choose to do it using items if you find it difficult and then ask for compensation, which is fair. Not even attempting them and asking for the shards is a little odd though.
    No idea why you are asking about the EF fight. The more skilled you are, the easier it gets. I found the fight very difficult at first, and once I got enough practice in, I finished the fight.

    Aaarrgghhh! I feel like I'm talking to a wall!

    SEQ and MEQ are easy FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE!! How about someone who has only recently become Cavalier?

    Great for you that you think these are easy. Great for you that you don't need the shards. Compensation will be global, separated by progression level. Just because you missed nothing, plenty others did.

    You also say that items are worth more than shards? Because it gets you through more content right? What are you doing that extra content for if not for the shards at the end?!? Also how do you invest resource in a champ you haven't pulled yet?

    Honestly, your nonsense is making my head hurt. Since shards are nothing, do me a favour and show me the hundreds of unopened crystals in your inventory.

    Anyway, my doctor suggests I stop engaging with you now as it's detrimental to my mental health
    Read this slowly. If you completed something when there was an issue in the game using items, you are entitled to a compensation. If you don't even attempt it, but expect something, you are not entitled to the shards.
    I complete content for the rewards, be it shards or cats or whatever. But, I don't expect Kabam to give me compensation for something I did not spend. That being said, here you go. I opened some 20 featured crystals trying for vision and war machine, so I am a little short on 5 star shards.






    Actually, the "don't do hard stuff" directive from the management, shatters your "you're not entitled to a compensation if you don't attempt it" reasoning.
    I have no idea why people don't read the whole thing. I was specifically talking about MEQ and SEQ. I agree that tackling content like Abyss, Act 6 and some variants is not good. Kabam have said that. But, SEQ and MEQ are not the hard stuff. So, all it shatters is my belief that people actually read posts before replying.

    I am not even against compensation, I was not affected as others and I still will get it. What I was asking if you some posts before this one was that, compensation should not be shards, it should be items used to complete the content when the game was bugged. I know we will still get the shards, but people should not expect whatever they could not get by completing content as compensation.
  • OWENSOWENS Member Posts: 78
    Well, i don't know about anyone else, but, parry for me, is considerably worse.

  • Yodabolt21Yodabolt21 Member Posts: 2,592 ★★★★★
    Others in my ally are saying the same
  • PulyamanPulyaman Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★

    Pulyaman said:

    Searmenis said:

    Pulyaman said:

    Jeal79 said:

    Pulyaman said:



    Again, SEQ and MEQ are easy. I have players who have completed everything last month with the bugs. Kabam advised people to stay away from difficult content, SEQ and MEQ are not difficult content. You can always choose to do it using items if you find it difficult and then ask for compensation, which is fair. Not even attempting them and asking for the shards is a little odd though.
    No idea why you are asking about the EF fight. The more skilled you are, the easier it gets. I found the fight very difficult at first, and once I got enough practice in, I finished the fight.

    Aaarrgghhh! I feel like I'm talking to a wall!

    SEQ and MEQ are easy FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE!! How about someone who has only recently become Cavalier?

    Great for you that you think these are easy. Great for you that you don't need the shards. Compensation will be global, separated by progression level. Just because you missed nothing, plenty others did.

    You also say that items are worth more than shards? Because it gets you through more content right? What are you doing that extra content for if not for the shards at the end?!? Also how do you invest resource in a champ you haven't pulled yet?

    Honestly, your nonsense is making my head hurt. Since shards are nothing, do me a favour and show me the hundreds of unopened crystals in your inventory.

    Anyway, my doctor suggests I stop engaging with you now as it's detrimental to my mental health
    Read this slowly. If you completed something when there was an issue in the game using items, you are entitled to a compensation. If you don't even attempt it, but expect something, you are not entitled to the shards.
    I complete content for the rewards, be it shards or cats or whatever. But, I don't expect Kabam to give me compensation for something I did not spend. That being said, here you go. I opened some 20 featured crystals trying for vision and war machine, so I am a little short on 5 star shards.






    Actually, the "don't do hard stuff" directive from the management, shatters your "you're not entitled to a compensation if you don't attempt it" reasoning.
    I have no idea why people don't read the whole thing. I was specifically talking about MEQ and SEQ. I agree that tackling content like Abyss, Act 6 and some variants is not good. Kabam have said that. But, SEQ and MEQ are not the hard stuff. So, all it shatters is my belief that people actually read posts before replying.

    I am not even against compensation, I was not affected as others and I still will get it. What I was asking if you some posts before this one was that, compensation should not be shards, it should be items used to complete the content when the game was bugged. I know we will still get the shards, but people should not expect whatever they could not get by completing content as compensation.
    What about new Cavs, who may see Cav EQ as a similar difficulty to Act 6? Cav EQ is not difficult for you, but remember there is a wide spectrum of players who play this game.
    OK. I get that and I did take into account the new cavs or the new uc players too. New cav players would have found the cav eq difficult regardless or bugs and there will be some items used to explore cav eq by new players. This bug just makes it more item intensive.
    Kabam will compensate with shards, regardless of what I say, so I don't even know what is the issue. I have been saying from the start this is from my perspective. Not for everyone. Not even other players who have explored act 6, just me. 😂
  • TheBair123TheBair123 Member Posts: 5,344 ★★★★★
    just curious, are you guys on android or ios?
  • OWENSOWENS Member Posts: 78

    just curious, are you guys on android or ios?

    Android
  • PulyamanPulyaman Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    Pulyaman said:

    Searmenis said:

    Pulyaman said:

    Jeal79 said:

    Pulyaman said:



    Again, SEQ and MEQ are easy. I have players who have completed everything last month with the bugs. Kabam advised people to stay away from difficult content, SEQ and MEQ are not difficult content. You can always choose to do it using items if you find it difficult and then ask for compensation, which is fair. Not even attempting them and asking for the shards is a little odd though.
    No idea why you are asking about the EF fight. The more skilled you are, the easier it gets. I found the fight very difficult at first, and once I got enough practice in, I finished the fight.

    Aaarrgghhh! I feel like I'm talking to a wall!

    SEQ and MEQ are easy FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE!! How about someone who has only recently become Cavalier?

    Great for you that you think these are easy. Great for you that you don't need the shards. Compensation will be global, separated by progression level. Just because you missed nothing, plenty others did.

    You also say that items are worth more than shards? Because it gets you through more content right? What are you doing that extra content for if not for the shards at the end?!? Also how do you invest resource in a champ you haven't pulled yet?

    Honestly, your nonsense is making my head hurt. Since shards are nothing, do me a favour and show me the hundreds of unopened crystals in your inventory.

    Anyway, my doctor suggests I stop engaging with you now as it's detrimental to my mental health
    Read this slowly. If you completed something when there was an issue in the game using items, you are entitled to a compensation. If you don't even attempt it, but expect something, you are not entitled to the shards.
    I complete content for the rewards, be it shards or cats or whatever. But, I don't expect Kabam to give me compensation for something I did not spend. That being said, here you go. I opened some 20 featured crystals trying for vision and war machine, so I am a little short on 5 star shards.






    Actually, the "don't do hard stuff" directive from the management, shatters your "you're not entitled to a compensation if you don't attempt it" reasoning.
    I have no idea why people don't read the whole thing. I was specifically talking about MEQ and SEQ. I agree that tackling content like Abyss, Act 6 and some variants is not good. Kabam have said that. But, SEQ and MEQ are not the hard stuff. So, all it shatters is my belief that people actually read posts before replying.

    I am not even against compensation, I was not affected as others and I still will get it. What I was asking if you some posts before this one was that, compensation should not be shards, it should be items used to complete the content when the game was bugged. I know we will still get the shards, but people should not expect whatever they could not get by completing content as compensation.
    In which post did kabam specify that act 6, abyss and variants are the hard stuff? They made a blanket statement that avoid hard stuff. To me act 6 and variants are not the hard stuff since I explored them all and abyss is just a unit sink and not hard. But to a new/mid cavalier, the monthly event quest and side quest may be hard. Since kabam didn’t specify what is considered hard, you are just extrapolating your experience to the broader community. And if people spent units to complete content, is it ok to expect units?
    What did you use the units for? To buy items which you will get back. Kabam have never compensated with units. Even the act 6 compensation did not have them. Of course what is hard is personal. I found the summer of pain hard, someone said it was simply a summer of annoyance. So. What is hard depends on the individuals skill.
    It makes sense to avoid the permanent content when there is a problem in the game and try to tackle the temp content like meq and seq even with the bugs. The compensation most likely will include shards and crystals. What people should not expect is to get rhe whole months rewards as compensation.

    Sorry if I am repeating myself. I am against compensation for small stuff. This is not one of those times, but I want the compensation to be things that you actually lost because of the bug. But, I will be happy with what ever I get. Hope everyone is happy when it lands. 👍
  • QacobQacob Member Posts: 2,253 ★★★★★
    I'm on Android here too, more specifically Xiaomi, and I agree that the issues are still present. As you said, parries pop-ups are appearing but no stun.

    But for me, and another friend, who also uses Xiaomi, the main thing that has been messed up since all this began is the frame rate. The lag and frame skips is what makes the game unplayable far more actively than failed parries.
  • PulyamanPulyaman Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★

    Pulyaman said:

    Pulyaman said:

    Searmenis said:

    Pulyaman said:

    Jeal79 said:

    Pulyaman said:



    Again, SEQ and MEQ are easy. I have players who have completed everything last month with the bugs. Kabam advised people to stay away from difficult content, SEQ and MEQ are not difficult content. You can always choose to do it using items if you find it difficult and then ask for compensation, which is fair. Not even attempting them and asking for the shards is a little odd though.
    No idea why you are asking about the EF fight. The more skilled you are, the easier it gets. I found the fight very difficult at first, and once I got enough practice in, I finished the fight.

    Aaarrgghhh! I feel like I'm talking to a wall!

    SEQ and MEQ are easy FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE!! How about someone who has only recently become Cavalier?

    Great for you that you think these are easy. Great for you that you don't need the shards. Compensation will be global, separated by progression level. Just because you missed nothing, plenty others did.

    You also say that items are worth more than shards? Because it gets you through more content right? What are you doing that extra content for if not for the shards at the end?!? Also how do you invest resource in a champ you haven't pulled yet?

    Honestly, your nonsense is making my head hurt. Since shards are nothing, do me a favour and show me the hundreds of unopened crystals in your inventory.

    Anyway, my doctor suggests I stop engaging with you now as it's detrimental to my mental health
    Read this slowly. If you completed something when there was an issue in the game using items, you are entitled to a compensation. If you don't even attempt it, but expect something, you are not entitled to the shards.
    I complete content for the rewards, be it shards or cats or whatever. But, I don't expect Kabam to give me compensation for something I did not spend. That being said, here you go. I opened some 20 featured crystals trying for vision and war machine, so I am a little short on 5 star shards.






    Actually, the "don't do hard stuff" directive from the management, shatters your "you're not entitled to a compensation if you don't attempt it" reasoning.
    I have no idea why people don't read the whole thing. I was specifically talking about MEQ and SEQ. I agree that tackling content like Abyss, Act 6 and some variants is not good. Kabam have said that. But, SEQ and MEQ are not the hard stuff. So, all it shatters is my belief that people actually read posts before replying.

    I am not even against compensation, I was not affected as others and I still will get it. What I was asking if you some posts before this one was that, compensation should not be shards, it should be items used to complete the content when the game was bugged. I know we will still get the shards, but people should not expect whatever they could not get by completing content as compensation.
    What about new Cavs, who may see Cav EQ as a similar difficulty to Act 6? Cav EQ is not difficult for you, but remember there is a wide spectrum of players who play this game.
    OK. I get that and I did take into account the new cavs or the new uc players too. New cav players would have found the cav eq difficult regardless or bugs and there will be some items used to explore cav eq by new players. This bug just makes it more item intensive.
    Kabam will compensate with shards, regardless of what I say, so I don't even know what is the issue. I have been saying from the start this is from my perspective. Not for everyone. Not even other players who have explored act 6, just me. 😂
    You weren’t saying “MEQ SEQ are easy to me” you literally said “ Kabam advised people to stay away from difficult content, SEQ and MEQ are not difficult content.”
    I said it at the start of the thread. Of course I will only talk about myself. I cannot speak for everyone who plays the game when it comes to difficulty of a content. It varies with skill and roster. You said summer of pain was easy, I thought it was appropriate difficulty for the rewards.
  • PulyamanPulyaman Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    Pulyaman said:

    Graves_3 said:

    Pulyaman said:

    Searmenis said:

    Pulyaman said:

    Jeal79 said:

    Pulyaman said:



    Again, SEQ and MEQ are easy. I have players who have completed everything last month with the bugs. Kabam advised people to stay away from difficult content, SEQ and MEQ are not difficult content. You can always choose to do it using items if you find it difficult and then ask for compensation, which is fair. Not even attempting them and asking for the shards is a little odd though.
    No idea why you are asking about the EF fight. The more skilled you are, the easier it gets. I found the fight very difficult at first, and once I got enough practice in, I finished the fight.

    Aaarrgghhh! I feel like I'm talking to a wall!

    SEQ and MEQ are easy FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE!! How about someone who has only recently become Cavalier?

    Great for you that you think these are easy. Great for you that you don't need the shards. Compensation will be global, separated by progression level. Just because you missed nothing, plenty others did.

    You also say that items are worth more than shards? Because it gets you through more content right? What are you doing that extra content for if not for the shards at the end?!? Also how do you invest resource in a champ you haven't pulled yet?

    Honestly, your nonsense is making my head hurt. Since shards are nothing, do me a favour and show me the hundreds of unopened crystals in your inventory.

    Anyway, my doctor suggests I stop engaging with you now as it's detrimental to my mental health
    Read this slowly. If you completed something when there was an issue in the game using items, you are entitled to a compensation. If you don't even attempt it, but expect something, you are not entitled to the shards.
    I complete content for the rewards, be it shards or cats or whatever. But, I don't expect Kabam to give me compensation for something I did not spend. That being said, here you go. I opened some 20 featured crystals trying for vision and war machine, so I am a little short on 5 star shards.






    Actually, the "don't do hard stuff" directive from the management, shatters your "you're not entitled to a compensation if you don't attempt it" reasoning.
    I have no idea why people don't read the whole thing. I was specifically talking about MEQ and SEQ. I agree that tackling content like Abyss, Act 6 and some variants is not good. Kabam have said that. But, SEQ and MEQ are not the hard stuff. So, all it shatters is my belief that people actually read posts before replying.

    I am not even against compensation, I was not affected as others and I still will get it. What I was asking if you some posts before this one was that, compensation should not be shards, it should be items used to complete the content when the game was bugged. I know we will still get the shards, but people should not expect whatever they could not get by completing content as compensation.
    In which post did kabam specify that act 6, abyss and variants are the hard stuff? They made a blanket statement that avoid hard stuff. To me act 6 and variants are not the hard stuff since I explored them all and abyss is just a unit sink and not hard. But to a new/mid cavalier, the monthly event quest and side quest may be hard. Since kabam didn’t specify what is considered hard, you are just extrapolating your experience to the broader community. And if people spent units to complete content, is it ok to expect units?
    but I want the compensation to be things that you actually lost because of the bug.
    That’s what people have been trying to get across to you that they lost the rewards they would have gained from completing MEQ and SQ.
    I am not getting into the same argument again. We can agree to disagree mate. Cheers.
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