AQ Map (various) Difficulty [Merged Thread]

That can't be right at day one.. Prestige of all Champs is much too high.

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I agree with you on that but the problem is Boo said we would be notified when they were giving the compensation and again when they resolve the still stubbornly undefined "issue". She then made a post saying we will get some extra things, and we did, but she failed to specify if this is the compensation she was speaking of originally and is all we are getting or if it was a partial one.

This may or may not be an issue, but we don't know because they aren't communicating clearly and with enough detail or alternatively aren't providing responses to our follow-up questions or concerns about these issues related to the poor communication.

kenadroid

Hi, Kabam Boo mentioned a little extra in compensation, I think it's fair to say most of us are expecting some glory especially since we're not able to target higher maps from adding those 6* defenders without letting the community know.

kenadroid

Yeah same. Just double the potions and revives

GroundedWisdom

The assertion that they need to jump to our feet because we pay their salaries is Karen-esque. Yes, we have every right to voice our concerns. Yes, we have every right to ask for better communication. Making indignant demands helps no one.

Rwj_2

I don't think anyone is saying they need to jump to our feet. Concerns are being voiced, were asking for better communication. The lack of response has made people indignant, yup. I also don't think demands are being made, only seems so because of the level of frustration. As for threatening/planning/trying to affect their income/salary/bottom line, how else do you try to get through to a company who seems to be ignoring any form of communication that you try??

Pikolu

As a TB, I really am lacking in t4b right now. I need lots more of it. And lots of higher end players need more t4cc, but as selectors not random crystals. It is annoying opening up 30 t4cc crystals for 3 mutant cats.

Dan_the_man_126

My alliance usually lands around 400 -450 mill...idk if we even make 300mill at this point...I thought we'd get at least 3000 glory to make up the difference. Disappointing to say the least.

RavenKeeper

My alliance has slightly suffered due to the insane difficulty of AQ atm, and I don't feel the last compensation was sufficient enough at ALL to make up for it.

We normally finish around 460 million in AQ, it looks like we're going to finish around 380-390 million.

For a grasp at how insane attack ratings are now, we'll use 7.3.6 as an example.

Here is a 7.3.6 night thrasher's attack rating compared to a regular map 6 lane fight's attack rating and the first ebony maw mini's attack rating

As you can see, the dark hawk lane right has almost 1k more attack rating than a 7.3.6 fight, and the Ebony Baw mini has double the attack rating. This is INSANE and the fact that we didn't get glory in our last package is ridiculous.

I know multiple alliances are going to suffer in AQ due to this. We deserve proper compensation.

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Glads

Those other compo packages are for issues kabam still hasn't fix. Different problem, with same problem for kabam can't do anything right at the moment

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kenadroid

There's also the problem that they removed l1 alliance revives from loyalty store that forced players to buy it with 280 glory. I don't think 6 revives are gonna cut it.

GroundedWisdom

We all WANT the game to run without complications. Both us and them. We all want the game to run smoothly. Which means they're not in the business of intentionally putting out a faulty product. What I was speaking to, was the demand that because we "pay their salaries", we are entitled to demands. It's a bit callous.

Crine60

Are you kidding me with calling me a Karen?

First off, I am not suggesting any course of action at all, I was merely attempting to explain my interpretation of what the people who ARE saying people shouldn't spend to get the powers that be's attention are trying to accomplish and the reason they think that course of action makes sense to those who are saying that not spending doesn't help.

Second of all, I never said that Kabam or Netmarble have to "jump to our feet" (I have never heard the concept I think you are expressing phrased that way) or that we pay their salaries. The point I was making was that I believe a lot of people, especially those talking about not spending because of the increasing problems, think things might improve with more resources (time, money, staffing, etc) being put into the game which as I said before I believe is part of the concept people are saying might occur if Kabam/Netmarble see a decrease in player satisfaction registered in one of the main ways they care about..... player spending. They might then be willing to bring on more help to improve things, which actually would be the opposite of what you were basically implying I was threatening because the threat of saying I pay your salary carries the implication that I can stop paying your salary too in addition to the meaning that you should make me happy because of it. This would result in MORE people getting paid by Kabam/Netmarble, not less, so don't put words, meanings and threats in my mouth that I didn't explicitly make.

Lastly, I made ZERO demands and said nothing indignantly so find someone else's post to attack please.

NihalFayaz

Yes! I think Glory ought to be in there

GroundedWisdom

1. I wasn't calling you a Karen. I said the statement was Karen-esque.
2. The subject which we both were discussing was what I was addressing, not you or your comment personally
3. Said statements about "paying someone's salary" are what I was commenting on, and my views about the whole assertion that money is the deciding factor in these circumstances, still stand. Spending, or withholding spending, will not make issues be resolved any faster.
4. Anyone who presumes to claim they pay someone's salary had best be their employer, otherwise such statements are arrogantly false.

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GroundedWisdom

No, you're right. I mixed conversations. I apologize.

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Spurgeon14

Are we talking AQ potions and revives? I'm just trying to understand what they gave extra, if anything. I never paid that close attention to the AQ packages because they are not that valuable anyways.

BuggyDClown

I agree with it. My ally get to 450m per cycle but due to this sudden change, people faced many difficulty and some even left. We dropped the maps and we are half of the points than we used to

JC10100

We havenyt been abe to comlete map 4 at all... mini boss is the pi of season 8 boss without linked nodes... plus its galactus

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Nix2222

I can say if my customers were not happy and decided to spend elsewhere I would sure as heck notice and care. I am a smaller business but revenue is about the most important indicator any organization tracks. I think anyone saying their money directly will force a business to hire/fire people is a stretch. But I do believe we all have the right to spend not spend and it’s up to Kabam/Netmarble to do whatever they fee is right in response. Whomever is responsible for the P&L for MCOC (whether that’s a VP at Kabam or Director at Netmarble) will notice any significant revenue changes and will respond however they as a company see fit. End of the day, if we don’t like the direction of the game or a response to whatever, we can stop spending or stop playing and hope if there’s enough of us it changes things.

Crine60

You are splitting hairs saying you weren't calling me a Karen but that the statement was Karen-esque. Whatever, it's not a big deal, it just seemed a ridiculous overreach for what I said.

I am not sure how you weren't addressing me or my comment yet chose to respond to the specific part of this thread that my comment was the most recent part of using a quote instead of just making your own standalone post in the thread or going off of someone else's post to quote if it wasn't about what I said. I don't quote people's posts to not address what they are saying and I don't know that I have seen many other people do that either.

I have the setting to hide super long quote threads turned on so I may have missed it further back but nowhere in my comment or the comment I was responding to was there any mention of anyone but the employer being the one paying the salaries so again not sure why you would bring up an issue specifically off of my post that wasn't something I said anything about.

Saying spending or not spending doesn't affect the speed at which issues get resolved is not something you can know without insider knowledge of Kabam and Netmarble. It may be the case that they are working with absolutely 100% of the effort they can put in to it but it may also be the case that they also have other priorities at the same time that they have some people spending some time on that could be reallocated if they chose to adjust their priorities. People have been pointing out that they have many vacancies and I think even DNA said something like we would probably be surprised at how few people they actually seem to have working on the game.

You can't know that things couldn't be fixed faster (some, not all obviously) if they had different allocations of resources or if they chose to spend more money on hiring more people to work on the bugs AND to test for bugs in the content they are releasing. How do you know that they already have the maximum number of employees that could possibly work on all the different bugs at the same time? In fact, mods have commented on other posts about different bugs that they have had to be put on the back burner due to the parry and related bugs they have been working on which would show that you are wrong about that in so far as if a decrease in revenue got their attention they might choose to invest more to get the game working better than it has been lately which could involve hiring more people which would enable more work to be done.

Most people on here disagree with most of what you say but you are generally just expressing an opinion. What you said here about the resolution of problems and spending's lack of impact on it sounds like you making an assertion of a fact which is quite likely not correct in the specific scenario you were commenting on.

Most businesses that see a meaningful drop in revenue (and I am not saying that some people not buying these upcoming deals would accomplish that but there is obviously a certain threshold that would be significant enough to get attention) look to find a cause and address it rather than just ignore it or shut down their business so it isn't unreasonable to think if they see people are upset about bugs they will put more money into getting more people to fix them and prevent them in the first place.

It is perfectly logical for people to think that more could be done if Kabam had more resources and that affecting their revenue could affect the resources they are given to address the decline in revenue. Without complete knowledge of Kabam and Netmarble's inner workings and financials you can't make the assertion that this line of thinking is absolutely incorrect, it may or may not be (but most likely it is correct because most businesses can do more if they are given more money to work with and as has been pointed out Kabam isn't running the game off our spending, they get funded by Netmarble who could spend a bit more now to make even more back). I am sure Kabam mods could never admit they aren't adequately funded, or even just could do better with more funding, because it would make them look bad but you have to be being willfully closed minded to not be able to admit the possibility that they could do more with more money from Netmarble.

This is too long already and may be a bit of a mess because it is late and I keep rewriting parts to try to explain my point better so I am done now.

Crine60

They gave us double the usual map crystals and AQ team revives and heals as well as some single AQ revives in the regular AQ/AW compensation mail.

Terra

Wasn't the "little extra" the revives and normal potions/energy refills we got?

Give a meter, they want a mile. Sigh

mattress

What really worries me is there was no in-game message other than when they sent the comp to even address the issue(even vaguely) after 3-4-5 days, unless I'm mistaken. These forums are a small part of the community and I guarantee there are a bunch of ppl in the dark and confused about what's going on. Between this and them not addressing the AI tweaks, I'm about done with this s*** show. Basic mechanics have been broke for mths and our reward for hanging around thru all off this? Bugged content, higher difficulty in most modes cause of th AI tweaks and health pools/attack values, and little to none communication from the team about most of these issues

GroundedWisdom

You chose to give validity to the refusal to spend, and how it affects the company. I responded to that. You can write with as much complexity as you like, but that's the issue we're discussing. If people choose to spend or not, that's entirely their choice. The idea that we have some sort of control over the people they employ is just overinflated.