Parry Input Issue - Android Devices [Merged Threads]

Tlmajr

After the patch the game is freezing a lot more as well. Glad I stopped spending money on this some time ago, with the non stop issues I think I'd rather trust the Titanic than the game....can't wait till I get so fed up that don't care that I ever put money in the game and finally walk away (and I'm getting there)

Bugmat78

So...no hot fix? Ok...

Folksdefender

Same here totally unplayable (i mean worse than that WE had since few month...) Can't Parry dex i drop a LOT of frames. I'm feeling liké i'm playing a photo novel. I got a Xiaomi MI11, built to run hardcore games normally..

GroundedWisdom

They're working on getting it out. It could also depend on when the platforms get them out to us.

DNA3000

Zeflemel said:

DNA3000 said:

Shinyuu said:

Oh actually I am a programmer but I've never messed with my own game engine because that's dumb and cost a lot to maintain. Can't roll back? Really that's why a lot of players went online to find the January APK file just to make the game playable again and still have access to EVERYTHING except the new EQ and side quest.

You can in theory roll the entire game client back completely (you cannot do intracode rollbacks as previously discussed). However, the app stores don't give well supported ways to make multiple versions of the same game client available (as far as I'm aware, someone post a link to the reversion recommendations from the vendors for each platform if I'm out of date there), which means if they attempt to do a complete rollback for Android on the Google Play store they will likely need to still get the old version reapproved which takes time (my understanding is it has to do with the mandatory requirements of version tracking) and then everyone who allows normal automatic updates would then get auto reverted and lose access to the new content, even if they were not experiencing any issues. Given the Android issues are not universal, that would be a very drastic step to take.

Also, there's a significant risk here because while it might seem like the only thing lost is access to the new content, that's not always the case. For example, there are times where if you're running the older version past a certain date the game servers block you from even logging in. This is probably a safety lock to prevent bad side effects or corruptions from happening due to the client mismatch.

A load of carp!
They previous version is built on a game engine version right?

Yes. I mean, this is only not true for games not built on engines. Like Pac Man.

Zeflemel said:

They added their own code with SECTIONS for stuff like, new animations but mostly new content right?

No. Code and content are not intermingled in the way this implies. Also, engine modifications aren't SECTIONED in the way this implies.

At this point your textbook troubleshooting process appears to have run out of steps, but let's ignore that and continue on, we'll treat this as an unhandled exception.

Zeflemel said:

NOW! Let's debug, what did they do different?
Did they work on a new version of the game engine? Yes/No

Almost certainly, technically yes.

Zeflemel said:

-if Yes
- rollback to previous game engine version

No. This would break other parts of the game reliant on the new client.

Zeflemel said:

-if No
- inspect newly added code for bugs, slim down the code.

Did they add extra sections of code ? Yes/No

Almost certainly yes.

Zeflemel said:

-if Yes:
- Where exactly? Check previously KNOWN reliable code for that section and look for bugs.

That's what they did to make the hotfix.

Zeflemel said:

- What code exactly? new BALANCE (yeah right) code that might not be active?
- continue debug from here, rollback to previous code, delete EXTRA sections of code, inspect content only sections of code. Bug Found === Bug Fix

This is gibberish.

Zeflemel said:

-if No
- Option 1: Magic
- Option 2: they are incompetent and can't even debug.

Almost every dev team has someone who thinks this is how real software is troubleshooted. If you are a programmer, and you haven't been sitting at the bar with your fellow programmers making fun of this guy, it is probably because they think you're this guy.

KnightZero

GroundedWisdom said:

They're working on getting it out. It could also depend on when the platforms get them out to us.

Would appreciate them conveying that to us.
It was supposed to be out today, it's getting late for a lot of folks. Even if they release it late night, it's going to delay feedback since they won't be at work which is understandable.
War starts tomorrow and many would like to know what is going to happen.

GroundedWisdom

KnightZero said:

GroundedWisdom said:

They're working on getting it out. It could also depend on when the platforms get them out to us.

Would appreciate them conveying that to us.
It was supposed to be out today, it's getting late for a lot of folks. Even if they release it late night, it's going to delay feedback since they won't be at work which is understandable.
War starts tomorrow and many would like to know what is going to happen.

I understand. There are two parts to it in this sense. They prepare the Patch, then hand it off to Google/Apple. Once it's out of their hands, it's a matter of when the platforms make it accessible.

KnightZero

GroundedWisdom said:

KnightZero said:

GroundedWisdom said:

They're working on getting it out. It could also depend on when the platforms get them out to us.

Would appreciate them conveying that to us.
It was supposed to be out today, it's getting late for a lot of folks. Even if they release it late night, it's going to delay feedback since they won't be at work which is understandable.
War starts tomorrow and many would like to know what is going to happen.

I understand. There are two parts to it in this sense. They prepare the Patch, then hand it off to Google/Apple. Once it's out of their hands, it's a matter of when the platforms make it accessible.

Yeah I get that. But if they've prepared the Hotfix and handed it off, that can be conveyed as well. Atleast we know that it's ready and any delay is not from their side, but from when it is available on the playstore.
They have communicated it a couple times before iirc, they can do it again if that's the case.
If it isn't ready, then convey that.

GroundedWisdom

I can't speak for them, but I'd venture that could be something that would further agitate some.

winterthur

GroundedWisdom said:

KnightZero said:

GroundedWisdom said:

They're working on getting it out. It could also depend on when the platforms get them out to us.

Would appreciate them conveying that to us.
It was supposed to be out today, it's getting late for a lot of folks. Even if they release it late night, it's going to delay feedback since they won't be at work which is understandable.
War starts tomorrow and many would like to know what is going to happen.

I understand. There are two parts to it in this sense. They prepare the Patch, then hand it off to Google/Apple. Once it's out of their hands, it's a matter of when the platforms make it accessible.

There are posts stating to get the previous version till the hotfix is out. Mods are not saying it is illegal or break ToS to do so. Since this hotfix is Android focus, can the game developer just host it on their site and not wait for Google?

Unless, there is an agreement signed with Google preventing this.

QuikPik

GroundedWisdom said:

I can't speak for them, but I'd venture that could be something that would further agitate some.

Nothing agitates the community more than complete silence. Even something like, "we're still testing the hotfix", "the issue is more complicated than we initially thought", "we're sorry but the hotfix won't be ready until tomorrow".

Complete silence is insulting for the fact that they couldn't spend 10 seconds on the forum to provide some info. Even if it's bad.

MerseysideRed

Shakti4all

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/11/marvel-contest-of-champions-changelog#latest

Almost 8pm New York time and still release notes haven't dropped
I am now worried about this "patch" - i dont "feel" Kabam is on track

GroundedWisdom

It's out.

GinjabredMonsta

Hot fix is out and, for me, seems to have completely fixed the issue

Flbarros_

LeNoirFaineant said:

Flbarros_ said:

When a bug benefits the players: hotfix within 30 minutes
When a bug benefits the company: "please, send a video showing the issue so we can investigate further"

Right. Because the game being unplayable for many players creating an even more unhappy customer base "benefits the company" because people have to use items, which they are already handing out for free. Makes sense.

Still benefits the company.... making sense or not.

winterthur

@MerseysideRed said:

Yes, this is good.
Gameplay back to "normal".

Thanks.

MerseysideRed

After testing one path in 3.2 it feels better, back to normal I would say. Will test more tomorrow.

GinjabredMonsta

Flbarros_ said:

LeNoirFaineant said:

Flbarros_ said:

When a bug benefits the players: hotfix within 30 minutes
When a bug benefits the company: "please, send a video showing the issue so we can investigate further"

Right. Because the game being unplayable for many players creating an even more unhappy customer base "benefits the company" because people have to use items, which they are already handing out for free. Makes sense.

Still benefits the company.... making sense or not.

That doesn't make sense at all though

johnwho63

I just downloaded the update and it works perfectly on poco x3

LeNoirFaineant

Flbarros_ said:

LeNoirFaineant said:

Flbarros_ said:

When a bug benefits the players: hotfix within 30 minutes
When a bug benefits the company: "please, send a video showing the issue so we can investigate further"

Right. Because the game being unplayable for many players creating an even more unhappy customer base "benefits the company" because people have to use items, which they are already handing out for free. Makes sense.

Still benefits the company.... making sense or not.

No, the game working well and happy customers benefit the company. A broken game is detrimental to Kabam and the players. Players willing to spend are far more valuable than frustrated players using their hard earned units and (maybe) a little money to complete AQ or AW while the game is broken. This is so obvious it shouldn't need to be debated.

ApeLakers

hey kabam, this update messed up the whole game, parry is unresponsive and very laggy. i play on a samsung s21ultra and never had any problems so far.

The worst thing is that you do not give any response to the entire community and we are in the middle of AW season, which is going to be a massacre and unnecessary expenses. I hope they cancel the AW season soon until they definitively solve the terrible problem that you caused.

And then please don't send those useless compensations that only make them expire. They are really going to have to compensate so as not to lose users.

Everything they do and how they communicate is not serious. Stop sleeping in the office and start working overtime.

GinjabredMonsta

ApeLakers said:

hey kabam, this update messed up the whole game, parry is unresponsive and very laggy. i play on a samsung s21ultra and never had any problems so far.

The worst thing is that you do not give any response to the entire community and we are in the middle of AW season, which is going to be a massacre and unnecessary expenses. I hope they cancel the AW season soon until they definitively solve the terrible problem that you caused.

And then please don't send those useless compensations that only make them expire. They are really going to have to compensate so as not to lose users.

Everything they do and how they communicate is not serious. Stop sleeping in the office and start working overtime.

The hot fix is out...