Why is Captain America science and not skill?

I get that he was enhanced by a science serum, but he was also trained in the military, and is one of the best fighters ever, knowing tons of martial arts. so why is Cap not skill?

BTW, I am also talking about Cap IW

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ThatGuyYouSaw235

Looks like you answered your own question

EdisonLaw

Looks like you answered your own question

Not quite. Cap is a highly skilled fighter, so why not skill?

Shiroihara

He's also been to space, so maybe he should be cosmic. Trying to explain this game, like trying to explain the comics, is not something you should invest time in.

Terra

Super Soldier Serum, created by science.
There's your answer as to why

Keltan

Just accept it he is science champs.. and move on ...

Demonzfyre

Looks like you answered your own question
Not quite. Cap is a highly skilled fighter, so why not skill?

Skill champions are either non-powered humans that excel in fighting or powered beings with powers who are great fighters who didn't get their powers from science.

Spider man stealth suit is the only one who has powers from science. But that's the class Marvel agreed for him to be in.

ReignkingTW

Have you seen the movie? He was useless before the serum.

Syndicated

So You asked and answered instantly lol

Vance2_jr

He didn’t get that swole from spending time the gym. He got that swole from ‘roids made by SCIENCE-tists, son. Sciencey ‘roids.

Lpoo

Falcon has tech to fly, but he is skill. Sometimes you gotta accept it the way it is and keep steppin'

DNA3000

I get that he was enhanced by a science serum, but he was also trained in the military, and is one of the best fighters ever, knowing tons of martial arts. so why is Cap not skill?

BTW, I am also talking about Cap IW

He should have some of his abilities explained by science and some by skill. But this game does not really support dual class champions, Karnak notwithstanding, so all champion have to be reduced to one class. In choosing the class, the designer has some judgment, but in general most champions seem to follow the idea that the class that gets picked when multiple classes are involved is which one is the most "extraordinary" for the specific abilities represented in the game.

Iron Man obviously has a lot of skill operating his armor, but between his skill at operating the armor and his technical wizardry incorporated in the capabilities of the armor, it is clear that his tech benefits are far more extraordinary than his operator skill. Meanwhile the Punisher also has skill using his weapons and also benefits from the technology of his weapons, but it is equally obvious that his skill is far more extraordinary than his technology.

Captain America has extremely high skill but superhuman strength and durability. His skills are far above that of normal people, but his science enhancements are even farther above that or normal people, so he's more Science-y than Skill.

There are many champions for which you could make the argument in multiple directions, but ultimately it is the judgment of the champion designer, in collaboration with the IP/Brand protectors at Marvel, that decide which way a champion gets classified.

DNA3000

Looks like you answered your own question
Not quite. Cap is a highly skilled fighter, so why not skill?
Skill champions are either non-powered humans that excel in fighting or powered beings with powers who are great fighters who didn't get their powers from science.

Spider man stealth suit is the only one who has powers from science. But that's the class Marvel agreed for him to be in.

Night Monkey is a highly skilled fighter whose origins are shrouded in mystery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6WEvHsvzOQ

phillgreen

Everything special about him came out of a bottle.

Searmenis

It s like saying, Adam Warlock should ve been Science.

raviXsharma

Because he is a laboratory experiment. Everything special about him came out of a bottle

Shadowstrike

It s like saying, Adam Warlock should ve been Science.

And there's a fair argument to support that belief but considering that he was engineered from Alien DNA to be a powerful Cosmic being also brings the conversation back to him being a cosmic

GMAX77

I get that he was enhanced by a science serum, but he was also trained in the military, and is one of the best fighters ever, knowing tons of martial arts. so why is Cap not skill?

BTW, I am also talking about Cap IW

I see this like a Dr.Doom situation. Victor Von Doom is one of the most proficient technical geniuses in Marvel Comics, but he is also a master of the mystic arts. When Doom was released he could have easly been made a tech champion, but they went mystic.

BUT

Flash forward several years later and we see the addtion of "Infamous Iron Man" A.K.A. Iron Doom. Surprise surprise, he is a tech champion (and a very good one at that).

Black panter is maybe the other side of that coin. I see no reason why he (or Killmonger for that matter) could not have been tech, science, or mystic as well. In their case, Skill won out so both BPs, Killmonger, and Jabari are the same class.

As @DNA3000 referenced there are many characters who could be considered "multi type", but since the game does not use Pokemon classification they have to be one or the other. This does leave the door open for alternative versions of characters to come out who are classed differetnly.

Some of the examples which are already in game include:
Steve Rogers (Super Soldier)

This could be the "Skil" Cap. His moves could focus on combat and possibly have an awakening to shrug debuffs similar to Kingpon (Awakened Ability: I can do this all day)

Black Panther (T'Chaka)

Here is a Black Panther mystic champ. I could see a playstyle which would be a cross between BP Classic and Tigra. Imagine BP but instead of bleeds he causes ruptures. (Awakened Ability: Wakandan Legacy - periodically causes BP to cause 2 ruptures instead of one)

Green Goblinn (No Way Home)

This "science" goblin will rely more heavily on debuffs than the tech version, but could still incorporate some tech type abilities such as power drain and armor up (which would rare for a science champ). Awakening: True Self - Maybe a stat boosting or regen inducing awakening ability for this guy. Nothing game breaking, but useful)

pseudosane

because the science serum is what made him superhuman. otherwise he would just be a skilled human being.

Searmenis

It s like saying, Adam Warlock should ve been Science.
And there's a fair argument to support that belief but considering that he was engineered from Alien DNA to be a powerful Cosmic being also brings the conversation back to him being a cosmic

Exactly. Same with Cap IW.

UnOriginal

About carácter with multi type karnak needs both skill and Cosmic catalizators to level up

EdisonLaw

About carácter with multi type karnak needs both skill and Cosmic catalizators to level up

Honestly looking back, I do think this is a great option to solve issues like this in the game

Examples:
Dr Doom: Mystic and Science

Ant Man, Wasp, Cassie, Yellowjackee Ghost: Tech and Science

Green Goblin: Tech and Science

Captain America: Skill and Science

Dragon Man: Mystic and Tech

Quake: Cosmic and Science

Korg, Thor Rags, Valkyrie: Skill and cosmic

Magik and Scarlet Witch: Mystic and Mutant

Phoenix: Cosmic and Mutant

GilbertoJunior

About carácter with multi type karnak needs both skill and Cosmic catalizators to level up
Honestly looking back, I do think this is a great option to solve issues like this in the game

Examples:
Dr Doom: Mystic and Science

Ant Man, Wasp, Cassie, Yellowjackee Ghost: Tech and Science

Green Goblin: Tech and Science

Captain America: Skill and Science

Dragon Man: Mystic and Tech

Quake: Cosmic and Science

Korg, Thor Rags, Valkyrie: Skill and cosmic

Magik and Scarlet Witch: Mystic and Mutant

Phoenix: Cosmic and Mutant

Actually Dragon Man would be Mystical and science,he is not a robot like the game says,he is a living statue of Clay that Diablo brought to life with his potions, the metal and Robot Tag are Just Kabam doing a bad lore research

Armageddøn

EdisonLaw

About carácter with multi type karnak needs both skill and Cosmic catalizators to level up
Honestly looking back, I do think this is a great option to solve issues like this in the game

Examples:
Dr Doom: Mystic and Science

Ant Man, Wasp, Cassie, Yellowjackee Ghost: Tech and Science

Green Goblin: Tech and Science

Captain America: Skill and Science

Dragon Man: Mystic and Tech

Quake: Cosmic and Science

Korg, Thor Rags, Valkyrie: Skill and cosmic

Magik and Scarlet Witch: Mystic and Mutant

Phoenix: Cosmic and Mutant
Actually Dragon Man would be Mystical and science,he is not a robot like the game says,he is a living statue of Clay that Diablo brought to life with his potions, the metal and Robot Tag are Just Kabam doing a bad lore research

Forgot. I also thought he was a robot.

Swixsy_63

I get that he was enhanced by a science serum, but he was also trained in the military, and is one of the best fighters ever, knowing tons of martial arts. so why is Cap not skill?

BTW, I am also talking about Cap IWI get that he was enhanced by a science serum, but he was also trained in the military, and is one of the best fighters ever, knowing tons of martial arts. so why is Cap not skill?

BTW, I am also talking about Cap IW

He was trained in the military true but it isn't what his origin story was he was skinny and everyone maked fun of him or haven't considered him to be well worth it enough to serve so when he got considered as a candidate for the super soldier serum he got buffed and amped up with super strength

You know what would make it better if we were able to make dual class champions which has them showing utilities in both their classes

EdisonLaw

Well, he is also defined by his mastery over his shield, his combat strategy, and his mastery of martial arts, not just the super soldier serum. He can go in either science or skill.

Blackjack555yy

Looks like you answered your own question
Not quite. Cap is a highly skilled fighter, so why not skill?
Skill champions are either non-powered humans that excel in fighting or powered beings with powers who are great fighters who didn't get their powers from science.

Spider man stealth suit is the only one who has powers from science. But that's the class Marvel agreed for him to be in.

That's meaningless tbh

Winter soldier is a skilled fighter, whose most prominent feature are the serum or a literal metal arm (tech) same for misty, Falcon depends on tech as well, Thor is literally a god, Squirrel girl has super powers, valkyrie is basically a goddess, mantis is an alien empath, moon knight has mystic powers, agent venom has venom and Attuma is basically a mystical fish, and yeah there's also stealthy spiderman

Blackjack555yy

Looks like you answered your own question
Not quite. Cap is a highly skilled fighter, so why not skill?
Skill champions are either non-powered humans that excel in fighting or powered beings with powers who are great fighters who didn't get their powers from science.

Spider man stealth suit is the only one who has powers from science. But that's the class Marvel agreed for him to be in.
That's meaningless tbh

Winter soldier is a skilled fighter, whose most prominent feature are the serum or a literal metal arm (tech) same for misty, Falcon depends on tech as well, Thor is literally a god, Squirrel girl has super powers, valkyrie is basically a goddess, mantis is an alien empath, moon knight has mystic powers, agent venom has venom and Attuma is basically a mystical fish, and yeah there's also stealthy spiderman

And blade is a vampire hybrid which sounds very mystic to me

EdisonLaw

Looks like you answered your own question
Not quite. Cap is a highly skilled fighter, so why not skill?
Skill champions are either non-powered humans that excel in fighting or powered beings with powers who are great fighters who didn't get their powers from science.

Spider man stealth suit is the only one who has powers from science. But that's the class Marvel agreed for him to be in.
That's meaningless tbh

Winter soldier is a skilled fighter, whose most prominent feature are the serum or a literal metal arm (tech) same for misty, Falcon depends on tech as well, Thor is literally a god, Squirrel girl has super powers, valkyrie is basically a goddess, mantis is an alien empath, moon knight has mystic powers, agent venom has venom and Attuma is basically a mystical fish, and yeah there's also stealthy spiderman

Looks like you answered your own question
Not quite. Cap is a highly skilled fighter, so why not skill?
Skill champions are either non-powered humans that excel in fighting or powered beings with powers who are great fighters who didn't get their powers from science.

Spider man stealth suit is the only one who has powers from science. But that's the class Marvel agreed for him to be in.
That's meaningless tbh

Winter soldier is a skilled fighter, whose most prominent feature are the serum or a literal metal arm (tech) same for misty, Falcon depends on tech as well, Thor is literally a god, Squirrel girl has super powers, valkyrie is basically a goddess, mantis is an alien empath, moon knight has mystic powers, agent venom has venom and Attuma is basically a mystical fish, and yeah there's also stealthy spiderman
And blade is a vampire hybrid which sounds very mystic to me

Bucky in the comics isn’t a super soldier. Yes he does have a metal arm, but it’s the assassin training and combat skill that makes him who he is.

Falcon does use tech, but it is integrated into his moves. His basic moves are punching and kicking and guns, which fits into skill.

Thor is a God but he does come from Asgard, a realm of aliens so it makes sense

Squirrel girl and Stealthy are debatable. Stealthy does rely on debuffs for his utility and damage (like a science champ), but most of his damage does come from big yellow numbers which is common with Skill champs. Could fit in both. Same with Squirrel girl

MCOC Valkyrie is the MCU Version who isn’t a goddess, but rather an extremely skilled Asgardian warrior.

Mantis in the comics is a human who gained alien powers, but mainly focuses on hand to hand combat

Moon Knight does technically have powers, but he mainly focuses on his training.

Agent Venom does have Venom, but Flash is in control for the most part. His moves also involve guns

Attuma wasn’t born a mutant unlike Namor, so he’s just a regular Atlantean

Blade is a human vampire hybrid, but he uses weapons and is a master fighter and hunter

Demonzfyre

About carácter with multi type karnak needs both skill and Cosmic catalizators to level up
Honestly looking back, I do think this is a great option to solve issues like this in the game

Examples:
Dr Doom: Mystic and Science

Ant Man, Wasp, Cassie, Yellowjackee Ghost: Tech and Science

Green Goblin: Tech and Science

Captain America: Skill and Science

Dragon Man: Mystic and Tech

Quake: Cosmic and Science

Korg, Thor Rags, Valkyrie: Skill and cosmic

Magik and Scarlet Witch: Mystic and Mutant

Phoenix: Cosmic and Mutant
Actually Dragon Man would be Mystical and science,he is not a robot like the game says,he is a living statue of Clay that Diablo brought to life with his potions, the metal and Robot Tag are Just Kabam doing a bad lore research

Marvel's own website disproves anything you just said- https://www.marvel.com/characters/dragon-man

On top of that, Marvel has to sign off on any character designs. So even if Kabam did "bad lore research", it would have been corrected by Marvel before the champion was designed. Even the class and tags are finalized by Marvel.