a punch to FTP players face

this new battlepass ruined summoner appreciations, it used to be free and everyone could get cool stuff whether u were a contender or thronbreaker. but now it's all behind a paywall access that most player base wouldnt have it. a free 7* morbius and more for just paying and FTP wouldnt get much? this's hella discouraging....

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JessieS

How are we not getting much? We get a six star and some nice resources

Noob_Master69

a free 7* morbius and more for just paying.

Aaah yes, the famous free for paying!!

In all seriousness this is still a lot of nice free stuff for ftp players. And a tremendous deal for medium spenders, I personally think this is one of the best events Kabam has put out for ftp and spenders alike in a while

bm3epps

🧐The gold track is free as long as you hit objective, but the platinum track is a bonus no one is forcing someone to try. You either bite the bullet and spend money, or be left behind on this deal. I'm also willing to bet quite a few FTP might finally spend since this is a good deal that's not pocket breaking.

bm3epps

a free 7* morbius and more for just paying.
Aaah yes, the famous free for paying!!

In all seriousness this is still a lot of nice free stuff for ftp players. And a tremendous deal for medium spenders, I personally think this is one of the best events Kabam has put out for ftp and spenders alike in a while

agreed..$15 a month for a guaranteed 7* is very solid especially if you are someone buying $5 daily paragon/tb/cav crystals

Furrymoosen

Here’s the problem with this whole FTP vs PTP perspective that most FTP players have. They’re looking at the value of what they’re not getting instead of the value of what they are getting. Assuming the 3 months of this are identical, this is far and away the best summoner “appreciation” type of event to date. If you’ve been around for all of them you would know that. But instead of celebrating what FTP players are able to get, you’re actively devaluing it because you’re comparing it to what you do want to pay for, and that’s not fair.

The first ever summoner appreciation calendar had what, 6k 6* shards and maybe a thousand units? Now this new one has more crystals, almost 1,200 units (plus a few fabulous crystals for more units), 3 fully formed 6* crystals and more stuff on top of all that. But sure, complain that it used to be better.

Compare what is free today to what was free yesterday instead of devaluing what you can get because you can’t or don’t want to spend money on something better.

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Terra

*boohoo, I'm not getting enough free stuff*

The Gold track rewards are solid. They're Free.
If you want more, a single purchase opens it. If you don't want to buy, don't. Simple as

RonSwanson

Y'all cry so much, good grief

MrSakuragi

At least we’ve upgraded from a slap in the face to a punch,,,,

Eb0ny-O-M4w

You are making the mistake of thinking this is the summoner appreciation event. It is not, is just another P2W event that ended up replacing that one.

But I do agree this is just yet another stupid decision by Kabam, but not that they haven't been doing so multiple times every month by now

Demonzfyre

You are making the mistake of thinking this is the summoner appreciation event. It is not, is just another P2W event that ended up replacing that one.

But I do agree this is just yet another stupid decision by Kabam, but not that they haven't been doing so multiple times every month by now

Cry harder.

Ruwqiersa

You are making the mistake of thinking this is the summoner appreciation event. It is not, is just another P2W event that ended up replacing that one.

But I do agree this is just yet another stupid decision by Kabam, but not that they haven't been doing so multiple times every month by now
Cry harder.

Truly a productive apporach from a fellow mcoc player

Ercarret

While I sympathize with non-spenders when the gap is this upfront for you, I do think that we as a community view the Summoner Appreciation Calendar with fairly rose-tinted glasses. It was a slog to get through, especially if you were in the highest progression tiers. It started out awarding you stuff like t1cc and small amounts of low-level basic catalysts. The occasional batch of 3* shards. That was basically it for the first month or so. Then the second month came about and you started getting 4* shards and t4b instead. It was really only during the third month, and especially the second half of that last month, that you got anything worthwhile. Those rewards were admittedly good, especially the first year. The second year, I remember being really fed up with the wait. You had to be available to log in every day for three whole months for rewards that just didn't stack up.

Since I don't know how the rewards will look in the Month #2 and #3 Gold Tracks, it's hard to compare this event fully to the SACs of the past. However, I think that it's at least fair to say that this month is better than what was previously offered during the SAC years.

If the rewards are static, though, I do think people have a right to be a bit miffed. If my math is correct, the full three months' worth of rewards would result in a grand total of half a t6b and t3a (plus all the other stuff but I'm trying to make a point about those resources), and that's way too low for Paragon players in my opinion. But I also think that even doubling that, which the Platinum Track does, would be far too little. I don't think it's unreasonable to want to be able to r4 a champion after grinding objectives for 3 months.

Hopefully they pump up those rewards as we move forward through this event. For month #1, I have no problem with the rewards in the Gold Track, and as long as the Gold Track is worthwhile enough throughout these months, I see no reason to complain about the Platinum Track.

Rap

All I will say is that "Juicy" does not describe the "Gold" path. Pathetic seems a better description. This was supposed to be a "skill" based game, but there is no skill required, just a credit card.
Kabam has made it clear they could care less about the balance of the game or ftp players.
First we spent years watching mercs and bots take rank rewards from away from us in events and arenas and now we get to watch as spenders buy thier way so far out in front that no matter what level of skill a frp player has, they will never get close to the top, not without a whale alliance to carry them.
But I for one saw this coming 3 years ago. Warned this was gonna be how this ended up, and here we are.

Bulmkt

It better than the Sigil ‘deal’ (that needs a huge buff in benefits)

MrSakuragi

All I will say is that "Juicy" does not describe the "Gold" path. Pathetic seems a better description. This was supposed to be a "skill" based game, but there is no skill required, just a credit card.
Kabam has made it clear they could care less about the balance of the game or ftp players.
First we spent years watching mercs and bots take rank rewards from away from us in events and arenas and now we get to watch as spenders buy thier way so far out in front that no matter what level of skill a frp player has, they will never get close to the top, not without a whale alliance to carry them.
But I for one saw this coming 3 years ago. Warned this was gonna be how this ended up, and here we are.

This looks pretty good for free, tbh

IvarTheBoneless

I agree that the gold path looks good. But good is not juicy, which the summoner appreciation used to be.

Here’s the problem with this whole FTP vs PTP perspective that most FTP players have. They’re looking at the value of what they’re not getting instead of the value of what they are getting. Assuming the 3 months of this are identical, this is far and away the best summoner “appreciation” type of event to date. If you’ve been around for all of them you would know that. But instead of celebrating what FTP players are able to get, you’re actively devaluing it because you’re comparing it to what you do want to pay for, and that’s not fair.

The first ever summoner appreciation calendar had what, 6k 6* shards and maybe a thousand units? Now this new one has more crystals, almost 1,200 units (plus a few fabulous crystals for more units), 3 fully formed 6* crystals and more stuff on top of all that. But sure, complain that it used to be better.

Compare what is free today to what was free yesterday instead of devaluing what you can get because you can’t or don’t want to spend money on something better.

The first ever summoner appreciation calendar also happened in 2018 (or 2019? I don't remember). Rewards from then are not equal to rewards now. In my opinion those free 6k 6 star shards equate to 5k 7 star shards or something in the current game economy.

Again - not bashing the event because we get a lot of free stuff which is very good. But it used to be better, same as the compensation we used to get back then for game outages and server issues. Mcoc just isnt the same anymore but we have known this for a long time. Now we just have to accept it.

RonSwanson

You are making the mistake of thinking this is the summoner appreciation event. It is not, is just another P2W event that ended up replacing that one.

But I do agree this is just yet another stupid decision by Kabam, but not that they haven't been doing so multiple times every month by now
Cry harder.
Truly a productive apporach from a fellow mcoc player

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laserjohn26

All I will say is that "Juicy" does not describe the "Gold" path. Pathetic seems a better description. This was supposed to be a "skill" based game, but there is no skill required, just a credit card.
Kabam has made it clear they could care less about the balance of the game or ftp players.
First we spent years watching mercs and bots take rank rewards from away from us in events and arenas and now we get to watch as spenders buy thier way so far out in front that no matter what level of skill a frp player has, they will never get close to the top, not without a whale alliance to carry them.
But I for one saw this coming 3 years ago. Warned this was gonna be how this ended up, and here we are.

It is a skill based game. The problem is you think that spenders beat skill. Skill spenders beat skill, but bad spenders don't. You could have every 7* at r2 and still take three weeks to get to gc.

Vance2_jr

Why is the concept of pay more, get more so difficult to comprehend for some people?

Thomildo

At least we’ve upgraded from a slap in the face to a punch,,,,

Soon we’ll get to the dropkicks and piledrivers!

Ayden_noah1

Spenders will always be ahead and they should be, the game won't survive on FTP goodwll. If you have the skill and also spend then you are at the top of the game. If you spend and have low skill, you will be coming here complaining that the difficutly level needs to be decrease. Skill is the most important part of this game, since some boss can't be beaten even if you throw unlimited money at it. Why is there a big gap during July th deals, black friday deals, spring cleaning deals and event like this is because Kabam needs players that are spenders to keep spenging and they hope that some FTP might be entise to spend. If the gap was small then there is less incentive for spenders or FTP to spend.

I keep hearing why MCOC isn't more like Fortnite where spending doesn't give an advantage to the player based. Well because it's not fortnite and most games aren't like fortnite. Most games will always give incentives to spend.

FTP players need to realize that the world doesn't evolve around them. Goodwill doesn't pay the bill, non spenders don't pay the bills. Even nonprofit organizations need money to keep them a float since they still have bills to pay. Stop trying to make FTP and spends equal cause it's never going to happen.

Vance2_jr

Why is the concept of pay more, get more so difficult to comprehend for some people?

Safe to assume the disagrees are from FTPs. Lol.

TheLightBringer

this new battlepass ruined summoner appreciations, it used to be free and everyone could get cool stuff whether u were a contender or thronbreaker. but now it's all behind a paywall access that most player base wouldnt have it. a free 7* morbius and more for just paying and FTP wouldnt get much? this's hella discouraging....

It always had a paid version actually, and you're still getting rewards for "Free", if you're expecting to get the premium rewards for free as well then I'd say welcome to life

klobberintyme

At least we’ve upgraded from a slap in the face to a punch,,,,
Soon we’ll get to the dropkicks and piledrivers!

RonSwanson

At least we’ve upgraded from a slap in the face to a punch,,,,
Soon we’ll get to the dropkicks and piledrivers!

Can we just skip to the thumb tacks and steel chairs?

Demonzfyre

You are making the mistake of thinking this is the summoner appreciation event. It is not, is just another P2W event that ended up replacing that one.

But I do agree this is just yet another stupid decision by Kabam, but not that they haven't been doing so multiple times every month by now
Cry harder.
Truly a productive apporach from a fellow mcoc player

Let me try again.... Cry harder, please.

Thomildo

BigPoppaCBONE

All I will say is that "Juicy" does not describe the "Gold" path. Pathetic seems a better description. This was supposed to be a "skill" based game, but there is no skill required, just a credit card.
Kabam has made it clear they could care less about the balance of the game or ftp players.
First we spent years watching mercs and bots take rank rewards from away from us in events and arenas and now we get to watch as spenders buy thier way so far out in front that no matter what level of skill a frp player has, they will never get close to the top, not without a whale alliance to carry them.
But I for one saw this coming 3 years ago. Warned this was gonna be how this ended up, and here we are.

Didn't exactly have to pierce the veil of space and time to foretell that one.

Why would you think it would be otherwise? Do you spend all day shaking your fist and being salty at the disparity of opportunities and outcomes between people willing and able to pay for them and those that aren't?

RonSwanson

All I will say is that "Juicy" does not describe the "Gold" path. Pathetic seems a better description. This was supposed to be a "skill" based game, but there is no skill required, just a credit card.
Kabam has made it clear they could care less about the balance of the game or ftp players.
First we spent years watching mercs and bots take rank rewards from away from us in events and arenas and now we get to watch as spenders buy thier way so far out in front that no matter what level of skill a frp player has, they will never get close to the top, not without a whale alliance to carry them.
But I for one saw this coming 3 years ago. Warned this was gonna be how this ended up, and here we are.
Do you spend all day shaking your fist and being salty at the disparity of opportunities and outcomes between people willing and able to pay for them and those that aren't?

Im gonna go out on a limb here and guess yes, he does exactly that.