Cosmic champions and Drax!
LeonBeni93
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So i just got s 3rd cosmic t4cc and my choices are a 5* unduped Drax and a 4* unduped Thor.Lets focus though on Drax and his comparison to other cosmic champs.I say so because I would prefer to rank up a 5* champ(especially since they are both unduped).My concern is is he really worth to rank up comparing to other cosmic champs(I have no problem waiting for something better)?I know which cosmic champs are considered the top ones,but here is my question:From my short experience using a 5* Drax he is dealing some great damage,BUT that the only thing he can do,plus theoretically fight against evade champs(plus Mordo) because of his medium hit,So:
-Is his Damage on par or better than some of the top cosmic champs??Has anyone tested him,compared to lets say Angela,maybe medusa or even Hyperion(i suppose he looses to him...) but is it a very big difference??Is he maybe better for those short to medium fights that are most common in game??
-Can he be used reliably against evading champs???I mean, would he be really a choice against e.g. spidy/nc(at least if played well?),or is it just a small plus in case you are against him and Drax is in your team??
-What if opponent is bleed immune,he suffers or his fury stacks can help him be a viable choice still??
Lastly let me add than i know some of the cosmic champs are considered better because they have more utility...but should Angela worth more than him if he can deal more Damage because she has regen(its an if...not sure if he can deal more damage!)??I mean yes regen is great and i love regen champs,BUT if i want regen champs i can use a wolverine,x-23 or rogue(i happen to have all of them as 4* duped!)...so if can still deal more damage i might prefer to rank him than wait hoping for her!
PS:As i think it is obvious that when it comes to 5* I(personally) try to look in the future and decide if they are really worthy...thats why i am trying to figure out his usefulness and his capabilities as much as possible!!!
-Is his Damage on par or better than some of the top cosmic champs??Has anyone tested him,compared to lets say Angela,maybe medusa or even Hyperion(i suppose he looses to him...) but is it a very big difference??Is he maybe better for those short to medium fights that are most common in game??
-Can he be used reliably against evading champs???I mean, would he be really a choice against e.g. spidy/nc(at least if played well?),or is it just a small plus in case you are against him and Drax is in your team??
-What if opponent is bleed immune,he suffers or his fury stacks can help him be a viable choice still??
Lastly let me add than i know some of the cosmic champs are considered better because they have more utility...but should Angela worth more than him if he can deal more Damage because she has regen(its an if...not sure if he can deal more damage!)??I mean yes regen is great and i love regen champs,BUT if i want regen champs i can use a wolverine,x-23 or rogue(i happen to have all of them as 4* duped!)...so if can still deal more damage i might prefer to rank him than wait hoping for her!
PS:As i think it is obvious that when it comes to 5* I(personally) try to look in the future and decide if they are really worthy...thats why i am trying to figure out his usefulness and his capabilities as much as possible!!!
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As I said i am NOT on a hurry to rank up and the post is MOSTLY TO SEEK A GENERAL OPINION ON DRAX(than choosing who to rank up..sorry if i messed it up by mentioning the t4cc i have and Thor..)!
Let me repost the main questions i would like to get an answer:
-Is his Damage on par or better than some of the top cosmic champs??Has anyone tested him,compared to lets say Angela,maybe medusa or even Hyperion(i suppose he looses to him...) but is it a very big difference??Is he maybe better for those short to medium fights that are most common in game??
-Can he be used reliably against evading champs???I mean, would he be really a choice against e.g. spidy/nc(at least if played well?),or is it just a small plus in case you are against him and Drax is in your team??
-What if opponent is bleed immune,he suffers or his fury stacks can help him be a viable choice still??
-And yes lastly where would you rank him in the Cosmic tier(feel free to include Hela if you want!)
P.S If you have some extra experience using Drax,let me know so i can some ideas on him for the future!
I have a 4* Drax (sig 40) and I love playing with him, but he is not in my A team. He surely gets a spot when AQ and AW are running together.
Against bleed immune champs, his total damage is still decent (fury stacks really help), but not in a top level.
So... Drax is not a bad choice, but I'd suggest you to wait for Angela or Hyperion, maybe Hela.
He's also a great counter for Mordo because he isn't impacted by astral evade, so you don't have to change your fighting style at all. Parry and attack all day long. Great for Map 5 when Mordo is the mini.
Similar to sparky) Hyperion is head and shoulders above every other cosmic, but after that there are about 5 that are on a pretty even keel, my plan is wait for the best in each class until you get 5t4cs of a class and then rank who you have, this is how I ranked my Hyperion and archangel the day I got them, so My advice is hold for a bit and if you get 5t4cs then rank
Drax if no hyperion, I prefer a duped drax over a duped Thor but that's just me medusa and Angela are the other two about that good and im hearing probably hela but I haven't researched her yet,
Look the picture above. Dont believe all the false information by this new players.
It's just, who do I bring up?! this post was very helpful and made some great points. Although, I'm still torn on deciding.
Based on MY situation though, I may just say the hell with it and rank Drax solely because he's a 5 star and I'll have two t4 cosmics remaining. So whenever i dupe Thor or Angela it isn't like the wait will be long.
Plus she doesnt need to be dupped like all of the other cosmic beasts (hype kind of does but can work asleep)
That Thor did 10000 damage on first hammer and then 27000 on the second hammer just sp2 alone. So after that special your enemy will be stunned, then add to that the damage from 5 hits on 2 armor breaks which is insane ~ 12000 plus a damagr from a SP 1 and stun again.
One picture says 10000 words and I show you proof above you all.
That's fantastic, and with full suicides as well?, but his current situation involves an unduped Thor, which is poop. So for his situation right now, Drax is better. But if he is close to popping another 4* crystal or two, better off to wait a little and see if he dupes Thor or gets Angela/Hype. Also, neither of them get nerfed hard by stun immune, so there is that, although only a small number of those are around.
I actually have to concede that for a lot of act 5 drax is handicapped because of fury, all the nodes that punish buffs do make him bad for those lanes but this is personal Preference, I have an r5 Thor and he didn't even make my act 5 team, I've 100% 5.3 and Thor sat on the bench, that's personal
Preference again but I have most champs in the basic crystal. admittedly so did drax for maybe half of it and he's my only r4 5*.
I've had Thor maxed since prenerf and he was probably the best in the game then, he does suffer from
Being useless on stun immunity but to clarify this in your case your Thor is unduped and Thor unduped is garbage, (he is 4* so easier to pull a dupe)
This is a case of specificity act 5 a duped Thor would be better all
Round than a drax, for war I prefer drax by a mile but that's because mine is r4, Thor is way way way behind Hyperion, but so are 99% of champs
In this game, Hyperion is next level
Hyperion is better than thor i agree. But thor kills faster and more effectively. Just do WS in ROL with both and see who kills him faster. I have both hyperion and Thor maxed. Hyperion is a better champ due to power gain and regen but raw damage thor is insane due to the stuns also. I can chain at least 3 specials on enemies that have an SP3 ready.
Also which the availability of gems now how THOr is unawaken is behind mind blowing.
Actually, that picture doesn't have context, so it doesn't tell me much at all. Given the way armor break currently works, I honestly don't know what I'm looking at, but I don't think I'm looking at the intrinsic damage of Thor.
2 armor breaks = 6000 armor reduction,
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The same special with thor above 50 percent health does 15000+ damage on last hammer compared to 25000+. Again this is just the last punch.the damage from the 5 hits combo plus the first hammer is still no even the equation.
You sure it ain't just on that node in Act 5 where the specials do 400% extra damage?
No that is antman on the power reserve node. SW and SL are the only 4 stars capable of equalling that damage. Of course nebula and psylocke and others overtime can do it but thier methods is too bogus.
Ah and take into account antmans glancing ability too.
Glad I know now though haha thanks!
Mr. dave explained really well in dork lessons how thor post 12.0 works. He is not the same he was before but still decent.
Props to kabam for doing a good job on him. We need similar adjustemnts for Stark Spidy and Star Lord.