Kabam, why no units from Cav EQ or TB EQ?

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PT_99

They want to open your wallet.

crogs

When asked before the answer was because the rewards are good enough as it is... 🙄

A_Fungi

I brought this up when TB became a thing

The answer is that there is a ceiling of units they can give from EQ, and we hit that ceiling after UC>

I disagree with it, but what can you do?

Darkness275

Probably because a large percentage of the community can auto-complete the lower difficulties and obtain the units there with very little effort.

TBH I should have been doing it more often, these past few months I've completed the Thronebreaker difficulty right away and then wasted my energy elsewhere for the rest of the month when I could have auto-completed the other difficulties of the EQ. I probably wouldn't have even needed to buy energy.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

They said at the time it would break the game ...

Buttehrs

It still seems like a bad reason since you can literally farm as many units as you want by doing arena.

SirGamesBond

They said at the time it would break the game ...

Damn right it's game breaking.
They need to remove units from lower difficulties too.

LilMaddogHT

I brought this up when TB became a thing

The answer is that there is a ceiling of units they can give from EQ, and we hit that ceiling after UC>

I disagree with it, but what can you do?

We can offer suggestions... If Kabam says the amount of units that can be acquired from EQ is 'enough', and adding more would be game breaking / economy breaking - that's fine...

I would personally just like to see the option to have the units re-allocated by progression or something. For example, as a season'd Thronebreaker, I really have no intention for doing Contender/Proven EQ... except for the fact it has units in it. Would be great if Contender & Proven units were simply shifted into Thronebreaker and Cavalier modes.

Doing such a change removes the some of the chore of doing lower level EQ, often by auto-fighting. I would be able to reallocate that time/energy into other aspects of the game such as BGs which I think is a win for the summoner as far as enjoyment of the game and rewards earned for the time.

A_Fungi

I brought this up when TB became a thing

The answer is that there is a ceiling of units they can give from EQ, and we hit that ceiling after UC>

I disagree with it, but what can you do?
We can offer suggestions... If Kabam says the amount of units that can be acquired from EQ is 'enough', and adding more would be game breaking / economy breaking - that's fine...

I would personally just like to see the option to have the units re-allocated by progression or something. For example, as a season'd Thronebreaker, I really have no intention for doing Contender/Proven EQ... except for the fact it has units in it. Would be great if Contender & Proven units were simply shifted into Thronebreaker and Cavalier modes.

Doing such a change removes the some of the chore of doing lower level EQ, often by auto-fighting. I would be able to reallocate that time/energy into other aspects of the game such as BGs which I think is a win for the summoner as far as enjoyment of the game and rewards earned for the time.

Sure that is what works for you but what about the lower level players? You can at least do the lower level EQ, even if it isn't engaging. Moving all those units up will make it very difficult for lower level players to have access to the units.

If the overall number isn't going to increase, I think it's fine how it is.

SirGamesBond

I brought this up when TB became a thing

The answer is that there is a ceiling of units they can give from EQ, and we hit that ceiling after UC>

I disagree with it, but what can you do?
We can offer suggestions... If Kabam says the amount of units that can be acquired from EQ is 'enough', and adding more would be game breaking / economy breaking - that's fine...

I would personally just like to see the option to have the units re-allocated by progression or something. For example, as a season'd Thronebreaker, I really have no intention for doing Contender/Proven EQ... except for the fact it has units in it. Would be great if Contender & Proven units were simply shifted into Thronebreaker and Cavalier modes.

Doing such a change removes the some of the chore of doing lower level EQ, often by auto-fighting. I would be able to reallocate that time/energy into other aspects of the game such as BGs which I think is a win for the summoner as far as enjoyment of the game and rewards earned for the time.
Sure that is what works for you but what about the lower level players? You can at least do the lower level EQ, even if it isn't engaging. Moving all those units up will make it very difficult for lower level players to have access to the units.

I would personally just like to see the option to have the units re-allocated by PROGRESSION or something. For example, as a season'd Thronebreaker, I really have no intention for doing Contender/Proven EQ... except for the fact it has units in it. Would be great if Contender & Proven units were simply shifted into Thronebreaker and Cavalier modes.

LilMaddogHT

I brought this up when TB became a thing

The answer is that there is a ceiling of units they can give from EQ, and we hit that ceiling after UC>

I disagree with it, but what can you do?
We can offer suggestions... If Kabam says the amount of units that can be acquired from EQ is 'enough', and adding more would be game breaking / economy breaking - that's fine...

I would personally just like to see the option to have the units re-allocated by progression or something. For example, as a season'd Thronebreaker, I really have no intention for doing Contender/Proven EQ... except for the fact it has units in it. Would be great if Contender & Proven units were simply shifted into Thronebreaker and Cavalier modes.

Doing such a change removes the some of the chore of doing lower level EQ, often by auto-fighting. I would be able to reallocate that time/energy into other aspects of the game such as BGs which I think is a win for the summoner as far as enjoyment of the game and rewards earned for the time.
Sure that is what works for you but what about the lower level players? You can at least do the lower level EQ, even if it isn't engaging. Moving all those units up will make it very difficult for lower level players to have access to the units.

If the overall number isn't going to increase, I think it's fine how it is.

I said the shift could be based on progression (title) so this doesn't imply that it would be for everyone. Or heck, simply make it a preference that each summoner can select which 4 of the 6 EQ modes gets the units allocated.

A_Fungi

Oh man, adding something to make the game thinking more complex. It's broken enough lol.

LeNoirFaineant

When the uncollected difficulty was first introduced it did not have units. It was always annoying. Eventually they added units to it when higher levels were added. I assumed that when they added Thronebreaker, The Cav level would have units added but it did not. Even if there are the same level of units if you explore all of EQ, It's a lot more grinding to get them if you also do the hardest two difficulties.

SirGamesBond

When the uncollected difficulty was first introduced it did not have units. It was always annoying. Eventually they added units to it when higher levels were added. I assumed that when they added Thronebreaker, The Cav level would have units added but it did not. Even if there are the same level of units if you explore all of EQ, It's a lot more grinding to get them if you also do the hardest two difficulties.

They added units to UC when they removed beginner difficulty

DNA3000

We can offer suggestions... If Kabam says the amount of units that can be acquired from EQ is 'enough', and adding more would be game breaking / economy breaking - that's fine...

"Game breaking" is not the opposite of "fine." The opposite of "fine" is "not fine."

Game breaking things are obviously bad and should never happen. But 99% of all the things that should not happen are not game breaking. They just shouldn't happen.

Game economies have budgets, just like people do. Exceeding the budget doesn't break the game, any more than exceeding your budget doesn't cause you to immediately fall over and die. It is just not a good idea, and do it enough times and you will eventually be living in a cardboard box.

Its a bit more nuanced than that, but that's just the details of the situation, it doesn't change the situation.

DNA3000

I brought this up when TB became a thing

The answer is that there is a ceiling of units they can give from EQ, and we hit that ceiling after UC>

I disagree with it, but what can you do?
We can offer suggestions... If Kabam says the amount of units that can be acquired from EQ is 'enough', and adding more would be game breaking / economy breaking - that's fine...

I would personally just like to see the option to have the units re-allocated by progression or something. For example, as a season'd Thronebreaker, I really have no intention for doing Contender/Proven EQ... except for the fact it has units in it. Would be great if Contender & Proven units were simply shifted into Thronebreaker and Cavalier modes.

Doing such a change removes the some of the chore of doing lower level EQ, often by auto-fighting. I would be able to reallocate that time/energy into other aspects of the game such as BGs which I think is a win for the summoner as far as enjoyment of the game and rewards earned for the time.
Sure that is what works for you but what about the lower level players? You can at least do the lower level EQ, even if it isn't engaging. Moving all those units up will make it very difficult for lower level players to have access to the units.

If the overall number isn't going to increase, I think it's fine how it is.
I said the shift could be based on progression (title) so this doesn't imply that it would be for everyone. Or heck, simply make it a preference that each summoner can select which 4 of the 6 EQ modes gets the units allocated.

This probably crosses the line from progression based rewards to economic customization. Players will almost never be granted the power to customize the fundamentals of a multiplayer game, because this undercuts a fundamental principle of multiplayer games - that all the players "see" the same game. When everyone can choose their own adventure in a massively multiplayer game, that leads to fragmentation.

And most likely, developers who want to design in that manner tend to work on single player games. There might be a closet Marvel-hater in the MCOC team, but they would almost certainly be rare if they exist at all. There might also be closet "let everyone customize how everything works" developers in the MCOC team as well, but as it is a massively multiplayer game the odds of more than a handful of them existing is probably also very low. And you'd probably need more than a few to make this a reality.