Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
Sorry but here's no way someone has "hundreds" of AGs. Even the biggest whales wouldn't be accumulating that many from the limited sources that provide them. I understand your position, but exaggerating to try to make your point hurts your credibility. It also makes you appear out of touch; even if a small handful of players somehow accumulated a significant number of 6* AGs, the vast majority of players do not. Maybe they have 10-20, or even 30, but they still don't have enough to make this trade-in a good value.
All we want is for these rewards to mean something. The fact that they're valued so low just makes the events to which they're attached seem equally meaningless.
Time and again your AG economy has shown to be unbalanced. It's a tale of two undesirable extremes: either we can't get an AG of a specific rarity when we need one, or we have so many AGs by the time we don't need any. It happened with 5* before 6*, and now as 7* AGs become a thing, you're repeating the same mistake. Break the cycle and make 7* AGs available in time for us to actually use them.
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
Sorry but here's no way someone has "hundreds" of AGs. Even the biggest whales wouldn't be accumulating that many from the limited sources that provide them. I understand your position, but exaggerating to try to make your point hurts your credibility. It also makes you appear out of touch; even if a small handful of players somehow accumulated a significant number of 6* AGs, the vast majority of players do not. Maybe they have 10-20, or even 30, but they still don't have enough to make this trade-in a good value.
All we want is for these rewards to mean something. The fact that they're valued so low just makes the events to which they're attached seem equally meaningless.
Time and again your AG economy has shown to be unbalanced. It's a tale of two undesirable extremes: either we can't get an AG of a specific rarity when we need one, or we have so many AGs by the time we don't need any. It happened with 5* before 6*, and now as 7* AGs become a thing, you're repeating the same mistake. Break the cycle and make 7* AGs available in time for us to actually use them.
Damn i glanced over and didnt even see the part where "hundreds" were mentioned. Is it even physically possible to have that many even if they were never used?
Assuming that Crashed was referring to those crazy massive spenders that would buy every one in the offer, then i really dont see how it would be game breaking for these guys to have an extra few couple sigs per trade in, given that theyre just going to be whaling for 7* sigs in offers regardless? Compared to the number of r5 gems in 2024 July 4, and the number of r3 gems in Cyber Monday i dont think this scales anywhere even close.
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
Sorry but here's no way someone has "hundreds" of AGs. Even the biggest whales wouldn't be accumulating that many from the limited sources that provide them. I understand your position, but exaggerating to try to make your point hurts your credibility. It also makes you appear out of touch; even if a small handful of players somehow accumulated a significant number of 6* AGs, the vast majority of players do not. Maybe they have 10-20, or even 30, but they still don't have enough to make this trade-in a good value.
All we want is for these rewards to mean something. The fact that they're valued so low just makes the events to which they're attached seem equally meaningless.
Time and again your AG economy has shown to be unbalanced. It's a tale of two undesirable extremes: either we can't get an AG of a specific rarity when we need one, or we have so many AGs by the time we don't need any. It happened with 5* before 6*, and now as 7* AGs become a thing, you're repeating the same mistake. Break the cycle and make 7* AGs available in time for us to actually use them.
I wasn't exaggerating, I looked at the data and there are players with hundreds of them... Sources aren't limited, they have been in the Banquet/gifting crystals for years.
Like I said, if you don't see value don't trade yours in. Personally having 50 7-star sig stones is much more valuable than something I literally have no use for, but to each their own.
Also, I think it's funny you think the solution to a surplus of awakening gems is to make awakening gems more available. That's not how this works.
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
I feel like I have a lot and I have 21. My buddy who spends quite a lot on this game has 41. I don't think "hundreds" is accurate. I think 100 awakening shards per generic stone and 50 per class awakening stone would be fair and not game breaking.
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
I understand why isn’t more but can I ask why wasn’t it AG shard considered that’s is in game obviously not 1k for one my maybe 500 from them. Just a thought i would like to hear why it wasn’t considered. Since you might hav a lot to say one this
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
If a player has hundreds of 6* AGs then they are a big enough whale that getting a 7* AG won't matter.
Even something as little as 100 shards for a generic and 50 for a class would be better than a single sig stone.
People need to understand that just because you reached the top progression title, it doesn't mean you are in the same situation as others. This deal is not amazing; but some players are getting at least something for items that mean NOTHING and collect dust in inventory. People are acting as if they are hosting a garage sale, items that they don't use or have any meaning all of the sudden have a "better" value just because someone is offering something for it
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
Lol I’m just kicking myself for hating gold stars so much that I use an AG as soon as I pull a new champ as I assumed it had no further value 😭😭😭
I think this is a stand up move though as it takes something that was valueless and gives it meaning again. Definitely a W in my opinion. Thanks Game Team!
I rarely read the forums and I can go years at a time without posting but I figured this announcement was made for me. I’m a small whale…I thought dolphin but I’ve been convinced otherwise…I counted, I have 159 6* AGs, I have every 6* awakened. I’m missing 6* OG Punisher and Deathless Thanos. I’ll definitely be selling AGs. 1 7* sig stone is better than nothing and for me 6* AGs are basically nothing.
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
Sorry but here's no way someone has "hundreds" of AGs. Even the biggest whales wouldn't be accumulating that many from the limited sources that provide them. I understand your position, but exaggerating to try to make your point hurts your credibility. It also makes you appear out of touch; even if a small handful of players somehow accumulated a significant number of 6* AGs, the vast majority of players do not. Maybe they have 10-20, or even 30, but they still don't have enough to make this trade-in a good value.
All we want is for these rewards to mean something. The fact that they're valued so low just makes the events to which they're attached seem equally meaningless.
Time and again your AG economy has shown to be unbalanced. It's a tale of two undesirable extremes: either we can't get an AG of a specific rarity when we need one, or we have so many AGs by the time we don't need any. It happened with 5* before 6*, and now as 7* AGs become a thing, you're repeating the same mistake. Break the cycle and make 7* AGs available in time for us to actually use them.
I wasn't exaggerating, I looked at the data and there are players with hundreds of them... Sources aren't limited, they have been in the Banquet/gifting crystals for years.
Like I said, if you don't see value don't trade yours in. Personally having 50 7-star sig stones is much more valuable than something I literally have no use for, but to each their own.
Also, I think it's funny you think the solution to a surplus of awakening gems is to make awakening gems more available. That's not how this works.
I am very surprised that any meaningful number of players have hundreds, but okay, if they do they do, fair play.
I understand the "if you don't see the value don't trade yours in." I'm not advocating for anyone doing it or not. I'm just saying that I think you should reconsider the value exchange for 6* vs. 7* items. I think it's off, based on this deal.
On the last point, you missed that I'm differentiating between rarities. There is a surplus of 5 and 6* gems. We don't need more of those, they're all but useless to endgame players (arguably to lower tiered Thronebreakers and Paragons too). We need 7* AGs right now, but the window for needing those is fading as we open more and more 7* crystals. This is compounded by new champs appearing and staying in the Titan for a prolonged period. There is a strong incentive not to awaken a newly pulled champ from the Titan, because the odds of pulling that champ again are so high. So the value of 7* AGs right now is to awaken champs already in the basic pool. If those AGs don't flow until enough 7* crystals have been opened that those basic pool champs are awakened, however, that's when they sit in inventory and accumulate, as they have with the 5 and 6* AGs you're seeing people have "hundreds" of.
I have 37 generics and 19 assorted class gems. I'm a hoarder and only use them when needed. I would've thought +2 7* sig stones would've been a more enticing trade in.
We have a collection of players making ridiculous assumptions about the entire playerbase by erroneously generalizing their individual experience. Even worse, those players are scolding a game developer who can see the data and insisting that he must be mistaken or lying.
This right here is why the world is the way it is.
Listen: "I have 10 AGs so there's no way anybody has more than 20 AGs" is a nonsense argument, based on nothing. A more sensible attitude would be "I have 10 AGs so I'm clearly not the target audience for this offer." It allows for the possibility of some perspective outside your own. Oh, and by the way, it's exactly what Crashed has already explained.
People need to take a beat and acquire some wisdom.
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
Sorry but here's no way someone has "hundreds" of AGs. Even the biggest whales wouldn't be accumulating that many from the limited sources that provide them. I understand your position, but exaggerating to try to make your point hurts your credibility. It also makes you appear out of touch; even if a small handful of players somehow accumulated a significant number of 6* AGs, the vast majority of players do not. Maybe they have 10-20, or even 30, but they still don't have enough to make this trade-in a good value.
All we want is for these rewards to mean something. The fact that they're valued so low just makes the events to which they're attached seem equally meaningless.
Time and again your AG economy has shown to be unbalanced. It's a tale of two undesirable extremes: either we can't get an AG of a specific rarity when we need one, or we have so many AGs by the time we don't need any. It happened with 5* before 6*, and now as 7* AGs become a thing, you're repeating the same mistake. Break the cycle and make 7* AGs available in time for us to actually use them.
I wasn't exaggerating, I looked at the data and there are players with hundreds of them... Sources aren't limited, they have been in the Banquet/gifting crystals for years.
Like I said, if you don't see value don't trade yours in. Personally having 50 7-star sig stones is much more valuable than something I literally have no use for, but to each their own.
Also, I think it's funny you think the solution to a surplus of awakening gems is to make awakening gems more available. That's not how this works.
Can I just ask, if there’s people with hundreds of these, why is the solution to offer a trade and not just to give different monthly rewards out to Valiant players? Not saying this in any form of attitude, just asking.
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
I can assure you most dont have anywhere near this amount. I'm one of the biggest hoarders in the game and I only have 17.
Could check the data as well to see how many have 40+ like you, but a 1 +5 sig stone wouldnt be game breaking i feel
Maybe Crashed is talking about players having 6* AG's and 6* Class AG's total? I had 19 6* Generics, plus 6 more class AG's for a total of 25 AGs hoarded that began early last year. Consider this though: when it's easy to dupe 6* champs, you use AG's a lot less. If you have spenders and whales who spent thousands on champion crystals over the past 2 years, they likely got many 6* dupes, so there's no need to use the AG's acquired from the game. In that case, the AG's would stack up.
Also some players went back to 100% explore content that offered 6* AG's (not for the AG's, but just to do the content). That adds to their stash. So someone having 100's of them isn't far-fetched. I would like to see that though.
I'd like to add that one of my alliance mates has 43 Generic AG's, and multiple 6* class AG's.
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
Sorry but here's no way someone has "hundreds" of AGs. Even the biggest whales wouldn't be accumulating that many from the limited sources that provide them. I understand your position, but exaggerating to try to make your point hurts your credibility. It also makes you appear out of touch; even if a small handful of players somehow accumulated a significant number of 6* AGs, the vast majority of players do not. Maybe they have 10-20, or even 30, but they still don't have enough to make this trade-in a good value.
All we want is for these rewards to mean something. The fact that they're valued so low just makes the events to which they're attached seem equally meaningless.
Time and again your AG economy has shown to be unbalanced. It's a tale of two undesirable extremes: either we can't get an AG of a specific rarity when we need one, or we have so many AGs by the time we don't need any. It happened with 5* before 6*, and now as 7* AGs become a thing, you're repeating the same mistake. Break the cycle and make 7* AGs available in time for us to actually use them.
I wasn't exaggerating, I looked at the data and there are players with hundreds of them... Sources aren't limited, they have been in the Banquet/gifting crystals for years.
Like I said, if you don't see value don't trade yours in. Personally having 50 7-star sig stones is much more valuable than something I literally have no use for, but to each their own.
Also, I think it's funny you think the solution to a surplus of awakening gems is to make awakening gems more available. That's not how this works.
Can I just ask, if there’s people with hundreds of these, why is the solution to offer a trade and not just to give different monthly rewards out to Valiant players? Not saying this in any form of attitude, just asking.
The discontent of some players should be enough to answer this. The ones with 100s or 50 or whatever the number is, are happy. The ones with a lot less that see no value are probably newer valiants. Better rewards would mean better things for all Valiants.
Given that 6* awakening gems are pretty useless these days, can we stop seeing them at the top monthly prize in content and hate them to Thronebreaker / paragons level. Surely this shows that the top end economy really needs revisiting. Even the most recent buffed rewards feel out of date now.
It's not the ultimate trade-in we hoped for, but it's not horrible either, and better than selling them for gold like the 4* AG's. At least it's some advancement towards 7* resources, which I can use a lot more of than 6* resources. 25 7* sig stones is a great addition to my account.
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
I understand why isn’t more but can I ask why wasn’t it AG shard considered that’s is in game obviously not 1k for one my maybe 500 from them. Just a thought i would like to hear why it wasn’t considered. Since you might hav a lot to say one this
Probably because they don't want to flood in AGs.
Why i asked him i understand 500 is much but i couldn’t se why 100 would be bad it stil take 10k shard but At that point 1 sig probably better then 100 shard
1 sig stone for a 6 star ag? You guys just brought 7 star ag shards into the game and can’t even give us some of those for these? So stingy all the time..
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
This gave me flashbacks of a typical Kabam Miike response... and not in a good way either
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
I can assure you most dont have anywhere near this amount. I'm one of the biggest hoarders in the game and I only have 17.
Could check the data as well to see how many have 40+ like you, but a 1 +5 sig stone wouldnt be game breaking i feel
That's the problems with these trade ins. It'll be balanced for the highest denominators
So, Kabam is afraid that these people who have hundreds of unwanted awakening gems, are going to get tons of 7 star sig stones and brake the economy of the game by max sig all of their champions. (That most of these people already have, since these people with the hundreds of ags are the soon to be getting bastion titles. Sorry, not getting, buying.)
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Assuming that Crashed was referring to those crazy massive spenders that would buy every one in the offer, then i really dont see how it would be game breaking for these guys to have an extra few couple sigs per trade in, given that theyre just going to be whaling for 7* sigs in offers regardless? Compared to the number of r5 gems in 2024 July 4, and the number of r3 gems in Cyber Monday i dont think this scales anywhere even close.
Like I said, if you don't see value don't trade yours in. Personally having 50 7-star sig stones is much more valuable than something I literally have no use for, but to each their own.
Also, I think it's funny you think the solution to a surplus of awakening gems is to make awakening gems more available. That's not how this works.
Even something as little as 100 shards for a generic and 50 for a class would be better than a single sig stone.
That being said I forgot 7* awakening shards were a thing already. I’d love making progress towards those lofty goals too.
Hope you had a nice lunch Crashed!
This deal is not amazing; but some players are getting at least something for items that mean NOTHING and collect dust in inventory.
People are acting as if they are hosting a garage sale, items that they don't use or have any meaning all of the sudden have a "better" value just because someone is offering something for it
I think this is a stand up move though as it takes something that was valueless and gives it meaning again. Definitely a W in my opinion. Thanks Game Team!
I understand the "if you don't see the value don't trade yours in." I'm not advocating for anyone doing it or not. I'm just saying that I think you should reconsider the value exchange for 6* vs. 7* items. I think it's off, based on this deal.
On the last point, you missed that I'm differentiating between rarities. There is a surplus of 5 and 6* gems. We don't need more of those, they're all but useless to endgame players (arguably to lower tiered Thronebreakers and Paragons too). We need 7* AGs right now, but the window for needing those is fading as we open more and more 7* crystals. This is compounded by new champs appearing and staying in the Titan for a prolonged period. There is a strong incentive not to awaken a newly pulled champ from the Titan, because the odds of pulling that champ again are so high. So the value of 7* AGs right now is to awaken champs already in the basic pool. If those AGs don't flow until enough 7* crystals have been opened that those basic pool champs are awakened, however, that's when they sit in inventory and accumulate, as they have with the 5 and 6* AGs you're seeing people have "hundreds" of.
Since then I used AGs as soon as I can.
I have 15 atm. And I'm opposite of hoarder.
We have a collection of players making ridiculous assumptions about the entire playerbase by erroneously generalizing their individual experience. Even worse, those players are scolding a game developer who can see the data and insisting that he must be mistaken or lying.
This right here is why the world is the way it is.
Listen: "I have 10 AGs so there's no way anybody has more than 20 AGs" is a nonsense argument, based on nothing. A more sensible attitude would be "I have 10 AGs so I'm clearly not the target audience for this offer." It allows for the possibility of some perspective outside your own. Oh, and by the way, it's exactly what Crashed has already explained.
People need to take a beat and acquire some wisdom.
Also some players went back to 100% explore content that offered 6* AG's (not for the AG's, but just to do the content). That adds to their stash. So someone having 100's of them isn't far-fetched. I would like to see that though.
I'd like to add that one of my alliance mates has 43 Generic AG's, and multiple 6* class AG's.
(That most of these people already have, since these people with the hundreds of ags are the soon to be getting bastion titles. Sorry, not getting, buying.)