My take on rebalance program

Some of you all are happy that rebalance program ended, so we don't have to be "afraid of" investing in new champs. Some believe rebalance was a mistake right from the start. Others are concerned because of kabam's phrasing "we still deserve the right to change champs if needed", but is still happy rebalance program ended.

But I believe it is a disaster to end rebalance program. Over the last 3 years, only 4 champions got a slight "nerf". That is,Abs man(no regen at start), zemo (root bug), bullseye (dexing basics dont apply bleed which is nothing) and swomen (it is really not a big deal yall barely see the difference). None of this affect these champs in any negative way.
But these are the champs buffed by rebalance program:
- Titania
- Shuri
- Attuma
- Mantis
- Sandman
- Shocker
- Dani
- Gladiator
- patriot
- arcade
- silver sable
- spunk
- ironheart
- vision
- green falcon

Most of these champs got significant buffs. Rebalance program was the most pro player move. Now they removed it altogether, champs like dracula are destined to stay mid. And we will see less "powerful champs" like nico karol and swomen, since they need to be careful as there is no going back and may under tune champs.

without rebalance champs like arcade shuri or glad would have never gotten buff, stating they are decent. Also kabam didn't confirm where does the resources of rebalance program will now go to, we are supposed to get more champion buffs right since the rebalance team now have less workload and can focus on buffing more champs? but no confirmation from kabam side either.

TLDR: Rebalance was player friendly, there's nothing to feel happy about removing rebalance.

Comments

ItsClobberinTime

This right here is what I'm afraid of, every champ you mentioned who got a slight buff was on mid territory. I remember especially Shocker Ironheart Gladiator and Mantis, four buffs I pushed for really hard on the forums because their loops simply weren't capable of closing fights due to mid damage, now they're even capable of punching up a whole rank. Dracula Maker and High Evo will be the best examples of champs who will be completely forgotten by next year if they don't receive some slight tune ups like Mantis Shocker Gladiator and Ironheart did and like you said, they're going to be twice as careful when designing champs after this because once it's out there will be no turning back and we know how careful they are when it comes to another Herc situation so this means we are more likely now to get mid champs and less likely to see a buff for those same mid champs because it isn't something they desperately need.

Chuck_Finley

The one dispute I have with your view: it assumes the quality of rebalancing was static. It wasn’t. I’d argue serpent is where it went on a steep decline to be helpful to the players….

Many of those last rebalances listed were roundly criticized. There were also inexplicable decisions (like calling Leader balanced) Was it helpful? At a time, but it lost credibility with serpent and downward spiraled into oblivion with DP being the final act.

ahmynuts

Did we forget how fire the buffs were before the rebalance program?

Adri5846

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/406227/my-take-on-rebalance-program

Totally agree with you. We’re going to lose necessary buffs, and it’s a shame.

Moreover, I don’t think the main problem is the rebalancing of Dark Phoenix, but rather the constant pressure from people against the rebalancing program, which has made Kabam stop putting effort into something that has only brought them more complaints.

We have what we deserve as a community for being so critical…

captain_rogers

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2894144#Comment_2894144

You are completely right, but bgs didn't exist back then. You think kabam will ever give us buffs like juggs, kingpin or red mags now? No way right.

captain_rogers

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2894141#Comment_2894141

I agree with case of serpent and Leader. but atleast we had some system. Isn't it better to have a less efficient system than not having a system at all.

if they kept rebalance as it is, and didn't touch dp, or nerf dp, there would be some outrage definitely. But atleast we had some hopes for dracula. Imagine instead of saying we gonna keep serpent as it is, they said we are going to discontinue rebalance at that time, Champs like arcade would have remained mid.

Magrailothos

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2894144#Comment_2894144

Some people might have. There were some amazing buffs in the pre-rebalance time:

Magneto (both)

Bishop

Punisher-2099

Angela

Colossus

Hulkbuster

Falcon

The Hood

America Chavez

All amazing champs, and still all probably in the top 20-25% of their class. Plus there were some solid and still-useable buffs to Gambit, Terrax, Nebula, War Machine and Yellowjacket.

Although the quality wasn't always amazing... Buffs to DPX buff #1, Guillotine, Civil Warrior and Psycho-man were pretty underwhelming.

But then, buffs have always been variable.

Since switching to the rebalance program, we've still had really good buffs to Hulk, Juggernaut, Luke Cage, Iron Man, Sentinel, Purgatory, DPX (buff #2), Yondu (buff #2), Medusa, and Mister Sinister... And there have also been some underwhelming buffs to champs like Night Thrasher and Rhino.

As long as they're still planning to work on old champions (which they say that they are) I think we'll still get some good buffs, some moderate buffs, and some that seem completely pointless or even make the champion worse.

So we can at least remain optimistic that champions like Captain America, Black Bolt and Abomination might become useable one day. Whereas new champs who are underwhelming might take years to get a Tune-up... 😐🤷‍♂️

Furrymoosen

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2894152#Comment_2894152

Part of the reason they made the entire dumb thing was to prevent making another Red Mags buff, and the other part was to prevent them from making another Hercules.

WednesdayLength

Why am I not surprised that suddenly the buffs from the rebalance programme were substantial in the communities eyes but when it meant that characters could get nerfed too it was was always pointless.

I'm sad it's going, but this is just proof that the community is selective able what it remembers depending on what they're annoyed about

GroundedWisdom

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2894278#Comment_2894278

This is how I feel. Half the time I remember reminding people that the objective of the program wasn't to make Champs OP, when people complained they were mid after adjustments. Now people are fighting for it.

No shade to Kabam, but I only remember a few significant changes. Otherwise it's been basic tweaking. I don't get the reactions.

IggyPop

To me, this is a “female dog” type of move, plane and simple.

They choked on their last decision (SW), and they knew they would be crucified either way with this DP, so they backed their sorry little behinds and called it quits 😊

I wonder if a certain Senior Dev who might have had a big play in designing DPhoenix was responsible for axing rebalance program cause he didn’t want another one of his meta champs be under review 🧐 :Dll

WednesdayLength

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2894319#Comment_2894319

Dll has never had say on rebalancing

Little_Crocodili29

The Buff program was way better. I still rely consistently on champs that used to be useless, but became amazing via the Buff Program. We used to call Colossus: Pillow Hands, HB: Trashcan, Magneto used to be so bad he didn't even earn himself a mocking name at the time. And Venom?

So yeh. I miss the Buff Program

WednesdayLength

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2894348#Comment_2894348

Only magneto was part of an actual buff programme. The rest were standalone buffs like we have continued to have for years