The AI has been modified again!? What I’ve noticed...

... is that the AI almost never ends a combo with a Medium attack when hitting into my block. In the past that was my queue to swipe forward and start swinging the haymakers. Now in AQ the champs just end with a light attack on hit 3 or 4 of their blocked combo then start blocking themselves or dash back. It’s making counterattacking very noticeably harder, for me at least. Anyone else notice this?

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187

Don't expect official feedback on this topic here. Community Management is not even informed about ongoing server-side AI changes, as Kabam management has no intentions to share internal matters with the community ("we hear you" approx a year ago - remember? lol).

GroundedWisdom

187 wrote: »

Don't expect official feedback on this topic here. Community Management is not even informed about ongoing server-side AI changes, as Kabam management has no intentions to share internal matters with the community ("we hear you" approx a year ago - remember? lol).

If there were any changes, they would have said so. There are bugs present.

Speeds80

I think 187 is right, they would have said so... if they were informed... and they would have been informed only if management decided to

GroundedWisdom

I've noticed the same, and the opposite direction. My Mediums are met with hits whenever I advance. I suspect it's a lag on our end. The AI hasn't changed. Our controls aren't moving as fast.

GroundedWisdom

Speeds80 wrote: »

I think 187 is right, they would have said so... if they were informed... and they would have been informed only if management decided to

They've said time and time again they're not messing with the AI.

SomeoneElse

They are tweaking the AI all the time. The changes are noticeable in almost every release that they do. The patch notes don’t mention anything about it. The AI behavior changes in one way or another each time.

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Slux83

Yep AI is behaving really weird now! It's a sort of mental game instead of a fighting game!

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RagamugginGunner

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

187 wrote: »

Don't expect official feedback on this topic here. Community Management is not even informed about ongoing server-side AI changes, as Kabam management has no intentions to share internal matters with the community ("we hear you" approx a year ago - remember? lol).

If there were any changes, they would have said so. There are bugs present.

Wrong.

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GroundedWisdom

For the love of......

GroundedWisdom

This is turning into conspiracy and venting. They do not screw with the AI without telling us. The Moderators communicate issues to the team. Some have different jobs as well, jobs behind the scenes. The Moderators who have confirmed there have been no changes are in communication with the team. Let's take the tinfoil off.

NoOnexRO

"Yes, this bug will have a fix in the next update".
"No, nothing has been changed to the AI behavior".

See what I did here?

GroundedWisdom

One is eluding to them messing with their own product behind the backs of their patrons and lying about it. The other is a fix they planned on having out that hasn't been pushed yet. I see what you did. Tried to use an unrelated situation beyond the control of the Moderator to perpetuate suspicion.

NoOnexRO

Or... a joke.
It's all about perspective.

IronFist34

This is getting f'ing ridiculous now. I'm mid combo and a freaking AI champ can just start combo'ing me into oblivion randomly?? No unstoppable, nothing. Horse ****

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Mr_Otter

They’ve also gotten frame perfect mid block parry and dexing as well as learning to counter interception with specials if they lose the dash

Also noticed a bit more SSS (Stubborn Special Syndrome) where whenever they have a bar less than half empty they will try to make you give them the extra power to use the other special instead of baiting as normal

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klobberintyme

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

One is eluding to them messing with their own product behind the backs of their patrons and lying about it. The other is a fix they planned on having out that hasn't been pushed yet. I see what you did. Tried to use an unrelated situation beyond the control of the Moderator to perpetuate suspicion.

*alluding

BigPoppaCBONE

Hiding behind Semantics. A change to ai is not the same as a tweak of the boundaries that the ai operates in. I can say all day that I haven’t changed the ai, but if I let the unchanged ai operate under new parameters, and you keep calling out “ai, ai, ai”, I shut it down by saying I didn’t make any ai changes. Simple.

Previously:
Recovery = 0.75
F[AI] = if this, then response after Recovery seconds

Now:
Recovery = 0.5
F[AI] = if this, then response after Recovery seconds

We say “something is different, you’ve changed the ai.”

Kabam says, “No we didn’t. We wouldn’t change the ai without saying something,“ which is probably true as far as the community people know at their level. No conspiracy needed, but it definitely looks shady to give that response when you’re fully aware of what the changes actually are (or can find out pretty quickly) and what the users are getting at when they complain.

Mightylibra

I saw Dr V became unstoppable after his L2 in arena today. Is this something new? Or it’s just AI somehow has extraordinary power after update?

I’m not surprised AI gets buffed so much. It’s obvious that the corporate has everything to gain from that tweak. The problem lies deep in their very business model, thus creating conflict within their own product. But It’s the first time I saw a company deliberately sabotage their own product that way.

At the end of the day, the only thing that matter is the bottom line of the financial statements. Everything else is secondary.

CallmelaFleur

The players that don't see it aren't true players. When I am about to evade a heavy and the game glitches for a second - I don't swipe back and get hit. This recovery time post right above mine, spot on. Recovery time across all modes has drastically increased. Combos not able to finish. Double dash backs NEVER working anymore. It is just beyond frustrating and despicable.

Ærroneous

Mightylibra wrote: »

I saw Dr V became unstoppable after his L2 in arena today. Is this something new? Or it’s just AI somehow has extraordinary power after update?

I’m not surprised AI gets buffed so much. It’s obvious that the corporate has everything to gain from that tweak. The problem lies deep in their very business model, thus creating conflict within their own product. But It’s the first time I saw a company deliberately sabotage their own product that way.

At the end of the day, the only thing that matter is the bottom line of the financial statements. Everything else is secondary.

Most likely the summoner you faced in arenas had the mastery that can trigger an unstoppable buff for a second or so. (Cant remember the name off the top of my head)

Mmx1991

Unfazed mastery can trigger unstoppable.

Mightylibra

Ærroneous wrote: »

Mightylibra wrote: »

I saw Dr V became unstoppable after his L2 in arena today. Is this something new? Or it’s just AI somehow has extraordinary power after update?

I’m not surprised AI gets buffed so much. It’s obvious that the corporate has everything to gain from that tweak. The problem lies deep in their very business model, thus creating conflict within their own product. But It’s the first time I saw a company deliberately sabotage their own product that way.

At the end of the day, the only thing that matter is the bottom line of the financial statements. Everything else is secondary.

Most likely the summoner you faced in arenas had the mastery that can trigger an unstoppable buff for a second or so. (Cant remember the name off the top of my head)

It’s unfazed, I have 1 point too but alwats thought it worked only on normal atks. My bad then, but it doesn’t change the fact that AI got buffed heavily.