Deadpool Arena: The 72-hour Android Experiment

72 Hours of live Youtube grinding.565 grueling rounds of arena. 2 odins dropped. 20,034,543 points scored.

Will it be enough for top 200? Was it even possible for a Galaxy Note 8 android to achieve victory when Iphones have an alarming advantage? That's what I'm going to address and discuss here in this post. Making sure to put this up prior to the results being posted because this is a HUGE issue win or lose for me.

I'm starting this off with just some raw numbers. Be aware that I'm typing this live on my stream with 80+ viewers who have witnessed the discrepancy in Android/Iphone Loading screens within the game. From the Iphone users watching me grind, my device had a roughly 8 second longer loading screen than the new I phone. That's 4 loading screens (32 sec) over 565 rounds of arena. 32 x 565 = 18,080 Seconds 18,080/60 = 303.3 Minutes 303.3/ 60 = 5.02 Hours.

Even though I dedicated 3 solid days to this "contest" - Iphone users have a 5 hour advantage in arena over my efforts. 5 more hours to use boosts, grind and get ahead of us who decided to go android. So, how are we on an even playing field? How does one that refuses to buy an Iphone just to play this game get a fair shot at these rare champions? Now, I'm aware of all the other factors - Skill level, Roster size, Boosts - Those are moot in this conversation. Why can't this game be optimized for Android devices they way it is for Iphone? Did I mention that I'm typing to a live audience? My live stream is still kicking and we had 3 days of feedback from fellow summoners grinding along with us sharing in the frustration.

Please address this issue with something other than "working as intended". I may not have the data on what % of your player base is android but 5 hours is a HUGE difference. That's only based off of how many rounds I played. Other summoners sent us screenshots of over 1080 rounds of arena played!!! Submitting a ticket in this instance, isn't going to happen. I have every waking, and sleeping second of the 72 grind documented on my youtube channel. Kabam - Mike and everyone else working hard to bring us MCOC. I love this game and the community that comes along with it - but this isn't alright. How can I compete in the contest of Iphones?

I would be happy to provide comments from fellow summoners, android and apple. I'm sure they will chime in. Screenshots of certain streaks can be provided as well. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE scrutinize the legitimacy of these top 200 scores in the Healing Factor arena.

Cheers,
LaFleur - Loyal Samsung customer, Odin Dropped, Youtuber, Nerd.

Side note-
There is a strange anomaly when I run MCOC sometimes. For about 30 minutes it runs super fast and snappy, the load times seem decreased and it feels like I'm optimized. 1% of the time though.

Comments

benshb

Very interested in this experiment! Looking forward to the results.

BitterSteel

I don’t know exactly whether Android is or isn’t optimised as well as apple, but have you considered that possibly Android Just isn’t as good as apple? It may not even be kabam who hasn’t optimised it

Batman05

Kabam as addressed this issue saying they optimize the game the best they can for android but given the large difference and huge number of diffrent android devices they can only do so much compared to Apple devices. It's your choice what device brand you run tho. And honestly 5 hours doesn't sound that bad. I would of thought it would be more time lost.

SpiritOfVengeance

@BitterSteel
Apples tech is behind androids the only reason kabam can make MCOC run soo much better on apple devices is because there are so little devices to make the game function on whereas android have multiple compaines making so many versions of smartphones supported by android so it is obvious kabam has a harder time pleasing all android users. Also the newer android phones have so much built into them.

Willjackson16

It isn’t kabam at all the iPhones have the A11 Bionic chip making gaming faster has nothing to do with the game just the device has better hardware

Jaffacaked

CallmelaFleur wrote: »

72 Hours of live Youtube grinding.565 grueling rounds of arena. 2 odins dropped. 20,034,543 points scored.

Will it be enough for top 200? Was it even possible for a Galaxy Note 8 android to achieve victory when Iphones have an alarming advantage? That's what I'm going to address and discuss here in this post. Making sure to put this up prior to the results being posted because this is a HUGE issue win or lose for me.

I'm starting this off with just some raw numbers. Be aware that I'm typing this live on my stream with 80+ viewers who have witnessed the discrepancy in Android/Iphone Loading screens within the game. From the Iphone users watching me grind, my device had a roughly 8 second longer loading screen than the new I phone. That's 4 loading screens (32 sec) over 565 rounds of arena. 32 x 565 = 18,080 Seconds 18,080/60 = 303.3 Minutes 303.3/ 60 = 5.02 Hours.

Even though I dedicated 3 solid days to this "contest" - Iphone users have a 5 hour advantage in arena over my efforts. 5 more hours to use boosts, grind and get ahead of us who decided to go android. So, how are we on an even playing field? How does one that refuses to buy an Iphone just to play this game get a fair shot at these rare champions? Now, I'm aware of all the other factors - Skill level, Roster size, Boosts - Those are moot in this conversation. Why can't this game be optimized for Android devices they way it is for Iphone? Did I mention that I'm typing to a live audience? My live stream is still kicking and we had 3 days of feedback from fellow summoners grinding along with us sharing in the frustration.

Please address this issue with something other than "working as intended". I may not have the data on what % of your player base is android but 5 hours is a HUGE difference. That's only based off of how many rounds I played. Other summoners sent us screenshots of over 1080 rounds of arena played!!! Submitting a ticket in this instance, isn't going to happen. I have every waking, and sleeping second of the 72 grind documented on my youtube channel. Kabam - Mike and everyone else working hard to bring us MCOC. I love this game and the community that comes along with it - but this isn't alright. How can I compete in the contest of Iphones?

I would be happy to provide comments from fellow summoners, android and apple. I'm sure they will chime in. Screenshots of certain streaks can be provided as well. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE scrutinize the legitimacy of these top 200 scores in the Healing Factor arena.

Cheers,
LaFleur - Loyal Samsung customer, Odin Dropped, Youtuber, Nerd.

Side note-
There is a strange anomaly when I run MCOC sometimes. For about 30 minutes it runs super fast and snappy, the load times seem decreased and it feels like I'm optimized. 1% of the time though.

Maybe you could of put those 2 Odin's towards a new iPhone lol

Greifmaster911

God, i did 8mil for this arena

0chris999999999

You are not a nerd because you know nothing about software, hardware or optimization. Maybe educate yourself first. It has nothing to do with number of devices, but framework and the overall control over HW/SW/OS that Apple has. Also, have you not heard of issues of touchwiz? Cmon, read an Anandtech or Ars Técnica article bro. You aren’t a need you are just a complainer

0chris999999999

TL;DR it’s not Kabam.

Adamdrt2006

Greifmaster911 wrote: »

God, i did 8mil for this arena

I only did 1.5 mil (wasnt going for champ only really was testing out and going for top 60% and the 1200 4* shards

Willjackson16

I did a little over 12 million

Greifmaster911

I placed 1007, they should make it top 10% get deadpool and the top 200 and top 10 get the gold ticket and the rank up things

G0311

BitterSteel wrote: »

I don’t know exactly whether Android is or isn’t optimised as well as apple, but have you considered that possibly Android Just isn’t as good as apple? It may not even be kabam who hasn’t optimised it

This simply isn't the case, the specs for higher phones like the Galaxy s8 plus exceed the processing specs on all iPhones.

Adamdrt2006

G0311 wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

I don’t know exactly whether Android is or isn’t optimised as well as apple, but have you considered that possibly Android Just isn’t as good as apple? It may not even be kabam who hasn’t optimised it

This simply isn't the case, the specs for higher phones like the Galaxy s8 plus exceed the processing specs on all iPhones.

Specks arnt everything apple controles every aspect of iphone where as android is free to anybody that wants to slap parts together and call it a android phone not saying all android phones suck but they are not as regulated and have a higher variraty of devices/parts unlike iphone

NightCracker

I use a Samsung S8+ and I know what you are talking about with the 1% of the time it runs ridiculously smooth. I noticed it happens if I out the game into the background and then come back. The games animations are much smoother (feels like 60fps vs 30fps) and the loading times are significantly faster vs normal time.

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OnlyOneAboveAll

CallmelaFleur wrote: »

72 Hours of live Youtube grinding.565 grueling rounds of arena. 2 odins dropped. 20,034,543 points scored.

Will it be enough for top 200? Was it even possible for a Galaxy Note 8 android to achieve victory when Iphones have an alarming advantage? That's what I'm going to address and discuss here in this post. Making sure to put this up prior to the results being posted because this is a HUGE issue win or lose for me.

I'm starting this off with just some raw numbers. Be aware that I'm typing this live on my stream with 80+ viewers who have witnessed the discrepancy in Android/Iphone Loading screens within the game. From the Iphone users watching me grind, my device had a roughly 8 second longer loading screen than the new I phone. That's 4 loading screens (32 sec) over 565 rounds of arena. 32 x 565 = 18,080 Seconds 18,080/60 = 303.3 Minutes 303.3/ 60 = 5.02 Hours.

Even though I dedicated 3 solid days to this "contest" - Iphone users have a 5 hour advantage in arena over my efforts. 5 more hours to use boosts, grind and get ahead of us who decided to go android. So, how are we on an even playing field? How does one that refuses to buy an Iphone just to play this game get a fair shot at these rare champions? Now, I'm aware of all the other factors - Skill level, Roster size, Boosts - Those are moot in this conversation. Why can't this game be optimized for Android devices they way it is for Iphone? Did I mention that I'm typing to a live audience? My live stream is still kicking and we had 3 days of feedback from fellow summoners grinding along with us sharing in the frustration.

Please address this issue with something other than "working as intended". I may not have the data on what % of your player base is android but 5 hours is a HUGE difference. That's only based off of how many rounds I played. Other summoners sent us screenshots of over 1080 rounds of arena played!!! Submitting a ticket in this instance, isn't going to happen. I have every waking, and sleeping second of the 72 grind documented on my youtube channel. Kabam - Mike and everyone else working hard to bring us MCOC. I love this game and the community that comes along with it - but this isn't alright. How can I compete in the contest of Iphones?

I would be happy to provide comments from fellow summoners, android and apple. I'm sure they will chime in. Screenshots of certain streaks can be provided as well. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE scrutinize the legitimacy of these top 200 scores in the Healing Factor arena.

Cheers,
LaFleur - Loyal Samsung customer, Odin Dropped, Youtuber, Nerd.

Side note-
There is a strange anomaly when I run MCOC sometimes. For about 30 minutes it runs super fast and snappy, the load times seem decreased and it feels like I'm optimized. 1% of the time though.

Did you get him?

Thecrusher_9756

OnlyOneAboveAll wrote: »

CallmelaFleur wrote: »

72 Hours of live Youtube grinding.565 grueling rounds of arena. 2 odins dropped. 20,034,543 points scored.

Will it be enough for top 200? Was it even possible for a Galaxy Note 8 android to achieve victory when Iphones have an alarming advantage? That's what I'm going to address and discuss here in this post. Making sure to put this up prior to the results being posted because this is a HUGE issue win or lose for me.

I'm starting this off with just some raw numbers. Be aware that I'm typing this live on my stream with 80+ viewers who have witnessed the discrepancy in Android/Iphone Loading screens within the game. From the Iphone users watching me grind, my device had a roughly 8 second longer loading screen than the new I phone. That's 4 loading screens (32 sec) over 565 rounds of arena. 32 x 565 = 18,080 Seconds 18,080/60 = 303.3 Minutes 303.3/ 60 = 5.02 Hours.

Even though I dedicated 3 solid days to this "contest" - Iphone users have a 5 hour advantage in arena over my efforts. 5 more hours to use boosts, grind and get ahead of us who decided to go android. So, how are we on an even playing field? How does one that refuses to buy an Iphone just to play this game get a fair shot at these rare champions? Now, I'm aware of all the other factors - Skill level, Roster size, Boosts - Those are moot in this conversation. Why can't this game be optimized for Android devices they way it is for Iphone? Did I mention that I'm typing to a live audience? My live stream is still kicking and we had 3 days of feedback from fellow summoners grinding along with us sharing in the frustration.

Please address this issue with something other than "working as intended". I may not have the data on what % of your player base is android but 5 hours is a HUGE difference. That's only based off of how many rounds I played. Other summoners sent us screenshots of over 1080 rounds of arena played!!! Submitting a ticket in this instance, isn't going to happen. I have every waking, and sleeping second of the 72 grind documented on my youtube channel. Kabam - Mike and everyone else working hard to bring us MCOC. I love this game and the community that comes along with it - but this isn't alright. How can I compete in the contest of Iphones?

I would be happy to provide comments from fellow summoners, android and apple. I'm sure they will chime in. Screenshots of certain streaks can be provided as well. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE scrutinize the legitimacy of these top 200 scores in the Healing Factor arena.

Cheers,
LaFleur - Loyal Samsung customer, Odin Dropped, Youtuber, Nerd.

Side note-
There is a strange anomaly when I run MCOC sometimes. For about 30 minutes it runs super fast and snappy, the load times seem decreased and it feels like I'm optimized. 1% of the time though.

Did you get him?

He got rank 171

xoRIVALox

Don't shoot the messenger. For the longest time now kabam themselves told us that the reason android isn't optimized is due to so many device types. Fact or not, it's the answer we recieved. Perhaps there's actually more nefarious reasons like Apple and kabam have a working deal and they both make bank off this game. Plus side reasons, addicts will buy an iPhone for the sole purpose of this game. Hate iPhones, so I'll pass. Although in retrospect the sheer amount of time I would have saved, I should have picked up an iPhone

Only 5 hours? Most of the time it takes me around 1 minute to enter a fight, win in under 10 seconds, bounce through click and load screens then enter next fight. That's 50 seconds of wasted load time EVERY fight. I nearly killed myself grinding for 3 days on an arena one time, 250 streak.... IPhone users who put in equal time... 650.. So the point differential is substantial

Let's not even discuss how long it takes to send out arena help requests.

I do grind like crazy, I've also learned that higher point arenas is simply just a waste of time for me nowadays, I've lost before I've even started

Let's put it this way, kabam clearly said in the past that they don't care about android users, they will take their money as a bonus but it's all about iPhone, so don't expect any changes... Ever

CallmelaFleur

The one guy telling me that I know nothing - your post looked like it was typed by a first grader. Relax. Got Mr. Pool Placed 171 and scored 20, 034,543. I've got a galaxy Note 8 - really not going to sit here and try to tell me I have an inferior phone are you? Tweaked developer options and everything to try and cut down on load times. Glad I had someone else with the same anomaly - game runs 60 fps and 2 second load times (like it should be). To the post that said 5 hours isn't a big deal - I ground out an extra 4 Mil in about 4 hours today and got in the top 200 by under a million points. This arena was nuts.

Animatronicsto

It’s not Kabams fault that your Galaxy Note 8 isn’t as powerful as an iPhone X bro. Don’t complain to them about your phone not being up to par. Also, maybe you should just buy an iPhone as your next new phone?? Or I’d you can afford it now? Because it’s the phone company's fault for being lesser quality, not Kabam

Monasou

I have a galaxy S7 and the game used to run better on my galaxy S4. Definitely notice the increase load times and the super long delay on arena help requests. I also have the "sometimes my game runs at 60 fps" thing.

The amount of time I sit on load screens is ridiculous. You end up looking at the load screen way longer than you spend fighting in most cases. It really does make arena grinds suck because you know no matter how good you are and how fast you can beat the fight you're still just going to spend soooooooo long just waiting. And waiting. And waiting.

CoatHang3r

Sorry, the simple fact is you have an inferior phone when compared to Apple products. Google will tell you this with minor research.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Animatronicsto wrote: »

It’s not Kabams fault that your Galaxy Note 8 isn’t as powerful as an iPhone X bro. Don’t complain to them about your phone not being up to par. Also, maybe you should just buy an iPhone as your next new phone?? Or I’d you can afford it now? Because it’s the phone company's fault for being lesser quality, not Kabam

It actually is Kabam. They confirmed that the game was optimized in iOs devices, but not in android devices.
They could optimize the game for everyone if it wasn't that hard to do so, since there are way more android phones than ios devices

CallmelaFleur

Animatronicsto wrote: »

It’s not Kabams fault that your Galaxy Note 8 isn’t as powerful as an iPhone X bro. Don’t complain to them about your phone not being up to par. Also, maybe you should just buy an iPhone as your next new phone?? Or I’d you can afford it now? Because it’s the phone company's fault for being lesser quality, not Kabam

I have a $1000 phone and you are questioning if I can afford another? Like all phones I get on my plan, I pay them off and get a newer model a few years late. I've always been a PC guy, a Coke guy, a ranch guy, a marvel guy and a Samsung guy. NOT an apple guy.

CallmelaFleur

CoatHang3r wrote: »

Sorry, the simple fact is you have an inferior phone when compared to Apple products. Google will tell you this with minor research.

Pulled from an article which says the better phone overall is the Note 8. Having a loading screen time that is 200% longer doesn't add up to these graphics.

LoPresti

NightCracker wrote: »

I use a Samsung S8+ and I know what you are talking about with the 1% of the time it runs ridiculously smooth. I noticed it happens if I out the game into the background and then come back. The games animations are much smoother (feels like 60fps vs 30fps) and the loading times are significantly faster vs normal time.

Loading times aren't faster though, but yes, the game runs a lot faster for sure during that period. Scrolling through menus and through the map, etc.

CoatHang3r

CallmelaFleur wrote: »

CoatHang3r wrote: »

Sorry, the simple fact is you have an inferior phone when compared to Apple products. Google will tell you this with minor research.

Pulled from an article which says the better phone overall is the Note 8. Having a loading screen time that is 200% longer doesn't add up to these graphics.

Maybe you can point me to where that was mentioned?

“However, neither Galaxy phone can touch the performance of the iPhone 8, and I expect them to trail Apple on the augmented-reality app front. ”
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-8-and-8-plus,review-4675.html

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Maat1985

there is alot to optimizing a game for android.
it is not just as simple as optimizing it to run on the OS.
there are many changes each manufacturer make to the os specific to their devices.

also when a program is optimized it also need to be optimized to the hardware of the device. this is easy for apple as the devices are limited and all the same.

this is impossible for android as there are so many devices using different hardware configuration.
totally impossible once you realise that Android OS is not optimized for each set of hardware just as windows is not optimized for pc.

have you ever noticed a new apppple pc boots and loads faster than a new windows PC??? even when spppecs of windows pc can be better....
have you ever noticed that different pc games run optimally on AMD cards or Gforce video cards but never both?????

True and proper optimization can never happen whilst there is vastly different hardware at play.