Can we fix death matches in 5* Arena ALREADY?

It is unthinkable that a 5* maxed at level 1 should trigger a death match. WHich seems to be tailored exactly on letting you lose regardless. In my case, 3 science champs with debuffs, matching 2 r5 and 1 r4 with maxed WP, ending up in regening 120 x tic while taking barely 100 dmg per hit.

Can we have this trash fixed? We should NOT be forced to waste resources just to do one streak of arena, and this doesn't really make sense. @Kabam Miike

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ShadPrince

It’s not a direct issue caused by Kabam, it’s because people have 2 r5 5* champs and the minimum requirement to not have a death match has gone up as a result of this.

There’s more detail in older posts, I’d recommend searching for those to see what you need to do to get around it.

Vale84

ShadPrince wrote: »

It’s not a direct issue caused by Kabam, it’s because people have 2 r5 5* champs and the minimum requirement to not have a death match has gone up as a result of this.

There’s more detail in older posts, I’d recommend searching for those to see what you need to do to get around it.

I did my search and the answer you also provided isn't the real problem here. 5* at level 25 should not EVER trigger death matches, and tweaking the code so that 3 x 1/25 champs do not trigger a death match is child's play. The only reason it isn't done is cause it doesnt benefit players.

Considering the grin has skyrocketed lately, at least this simple tweak would be needed. The game is already falling to the bottom line and way too many people is quitting, there is no need to make even more annoying what is already annoying.

ShadPrince

Vale84 wrote: »

ShadPrince wrote: »

It’s not a direct issue caused by Kabam, it’s because people have 2 r5 5* champs and the minimum requirement to not have a death match has gone up as a result of this.

There’s more detail in older posts, I’d recommend searching for those to see what you need to do to get around it.

I did my search and the answer you also provided isn't the real problem here. 5* at level 25 should not EVER trigger death matches, and tweaking the code so that 3 x 1/25 champs do not trigger a death match is child's play. The only reason it isn't done is cause it doesnt benefit players.

Considering the grin has skyrocketed lately, at least this simple tweak would be needed. The game is already falling to the bottom line and way too many people is quitting, there is no need to make even more annoying what is already annoying.

So if you’re saying 1/25 5* champs should never trigger death match, then how come it happens for 1/10 4* champs in the 4* arenas? And 3* and 2* champs at 1/10 in their respective arenas?

Vale84

ShadPrince wrote: »

Vale84 wrote: »

ShadPrince wrote: »

It’s not a direct issue caused by Kabam, it’s because people have 2 r5 5* champs and the minimum requirement to not have a death match has gone up as a result of this.

There’s more detail in older posts, I’d recommend searching for those to see what you need to do to get around it.

I did my search and the answer you also provided isn't the real problem here. 5* at level 25 should not EVER trigger death matches, and tweaking the code so that 3 x 1/25 champs do not trigger a death match is child's play. The only reason it isn't done is cause it doesnt benefit players.

Considering the grin has skyrocketed lately, at least this simple tweak would be needed. The game is already falling to the bottom line and way too many people is quitting, there is no need to make even more annoying what is already annoying.

So if you’re saying 1/25 5* champs should never trigger death match, then how come it happens for 1/10 4* champs in the 4* arenas? And 3* and 2* champs at 1/10 in their respective arenas?

5* rank 1/25 = slightly above a 4* 3/30 char in the power chart.

3/30 won't ever trigger deathmatches in any arena where the main usage of champs is 4*.

5* r1/25 should NOT ever trigger deathmatches in any arena where the main usage of champs is 5*.

On top, the recharge time and points given per usage as 1/25 are riddicolously high compared to all the rest. It's pretty much obvious that they should be safe as long as you don't mix 1/10 4* with them.

as easy as it is.

shchong2

I did NOT bring 3 x 5* R1 all at once to the match

I tried mixing 2 x 5* R1 .... with another 1 x 4* R4 ... NEVER trigger any death match, everyday, every week, for the past few months since 5* Arena introduced.

Maybe I'm so lucky over the past hundred over days, but who knows? Give a try.

Split out your 3 x 5* R1 .... mix them with 4* R4 or R5 and see if it helps you avoiding triggering the death match, but of course this is assuming you do this:-
(1) NOT during the matches num#9, #10, #11 and #12
(2) Before matches num#9
(3) After matches num#21

At least this is my own guideline for my own streak, always worked for me thus far.

If it doesn't work for you, then you may have to find your formula that align to your star. Good luck.

ShadPrince

Vale84 wrote: »

ShadPrince wrote: »

Vale84 wrote: »

ShadPrince wrote: »

It’s not a direct issue caused by Kabam, it’s because people have 2 r5 5* champs and the minimum requirement to not have a death match has gone up as a result of this.

There’s more detail in older posts, I’d recommend searching for those to see what you need to do to get around it.

I did my search and the answer you also provided isn't the real problem here. 5* at level 25 should not EVER trigger death matches, and tweaking the code so that 3 x 1/25 champs do not trigger a death match is child's play. The only reason it isn't done is cause it doesnt benefit players.

Considering the grin has skyrocketed lately, at least this simple tweak would be needed. The game is already falling to the bottom line and way too many people is quitting, there is no need to make even more annoying what is already annoying.

So if you’re saying 1/25 5* champs should never trigger death match, then how come it happens for 1/10 4* champs in the 4* arenas? And 3* and 2* champs at 1/10 in their respective arenas?

5* rank 1/25 = slightly above a 4* 3/30 char in the power chart.

3/30 won't ever trigger deathmatches in any arena where the main usage of champs is 4*.

5* r1/25 should NOT ever trigger deathmatches in any arena where the main usage of champs is 5*.

On top, the recharge time and points given per usage as 1/25 are riddicolously high compared to all the rest. It's pretty much obvious that they should be safe as long as you don't mix 1/10 4* with them.

as easy as it is.

Right, but that has nothing to do with what I asked you.

Comparing the 5* champs that don’t work and saying that the 4* champs of equal value work in their arena is completely irrelevant when I asked why 1/10 4* champs, the same as 1/25 5* champs in their respective tiers of 4* and 5*, don’t work in the arenas of their respective tiers.

I completely get the whole cooldown time thing and it does suck a lot, but that doesn’t form the basis for saying that

Vale84 wrote: »

5* r1/25 should NOT ever trigger deathmatches in any arena where the main usage of champs is 5*.

and I’m really curious as to see if you have any actual statistics that would back that statement up rather than saying that it “just shouldn’t.”

Addyos

The PI of those 3 champs are too low to combine together in an arena team now. Sucks that the minimum PI per team has increased, but you have to work around it now. Combine any 2 of those champs with a 2/35 5* or a 4/40 4* and you should be ok.

Crazyjack719

You can fix this very easily OP, mix in a 2/35, 3/45 or 5/50 into each team and you have a high chance of the death match not occurring. As people start to get their 3rd 5/65, this will shift the minimum another 20 - 25%. Keep your teams above 10k for the moment and you should be fine.

ILovePonies

Rank your 5 stars up and stop moaning

iamthegodofwar

ILovePonies wrote: »

Rank your 5 stars up and stop moaning

This is the solution. Do not bring weak champs. It’s your fault, not Kabam.

Husky54

Vale84 wrote: »

It is unthinkable that a 5* maxed at level 1 should trigger a death match. WHich seems to be tailored exactly on letting you lose regardless. In my case, 3 science champs with debuffs, matching 2 r5 and 1 r4 with maxed WP, ending up in regening 120 x tic while taking barely 100 dmg per hit.

Can we have this trash fixed? We should NOT be forced to waste resources just to do one streak of arena, and this doesn't really make sense. @Kabam Miike

Yeah but what was your streak at? Once you get to at least 25 matches, you can bring 1/25 5* champs.

Deadly2016

kabam allready told us that its not a bug, hence wont get fixed. the pi of those 3 champs is to low to stay infinite, wheter you like it or not thats the game mechanic. i started ranking up my r1 5* from the bottom upwards as soon as i get alpha so i dont have that problem anymore... yes it hurts a little to rank up an antman, but it cant be helped if you want to streak without those juicy deathmatches.

Il_JooO

Husky54 wrote: »

Yeah but what was your streak at? Once you get to at least 25 matches, you can bring 1/25 5* champs.

even less, from series number 20

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MordridCowl_1979

Increase ur team pi. Mix up ur champs to do so until u get ur 5*s ranked up.

Vale84

1776 wrote: »

It acts a block. Like in the way uncollected is still too difficult for some, if you have trouble reaching infinite streak because either your roster doesnt allow it or two you need to wait and refresh your top champs from fights 8-18.

it was streak 69, but thank you i guess, lmao.

Vale84

double post

Vale84

MordridCowl_1979 wrote: »

Increase ur team pi. Mix up ur champs to do so until u get ur 5*s ranked up.

That's what i usually do, but sometimes you don't have the leisure or are just hasty on something else off game. In my case, i was doing science event. As much as it isn't a bug, shouldnt really happen as it has no meaning nor sense really. Past serie 19 you have to deal already with the heavy grind ahead, no need to make it worse.

AURELIUS

Vale84 wrote: »

It is unthinkable that a 5* maxed at level 1 should trigger a death match. WHich seems to be tailored exactly on letting you lose regardless. In my case, 3 science champs with debuffs, matching 2 r5 and 1 r4 with maxed WP, ending up in regening 120 x tic while taking barely 100 dmg per hit.

Can we have this trash fixed? We should NOT be forced to waste resources just to do one streak of arena, and this doesn't really make sense. @Kabam Miike

Problem here is your champions aren't ranked high enough i can use 1/25 and win against those but i try not to get deathmatches

Appleisgod

Vale84 wrote: »

MordridCowl_1979 wrote: »

Increase ur team pi. Mix up ur champs to do so until u get ur 5*s ranked up.

That's what i usually do, but sometimes you don't have the leisure or are just hasty on something else off game. In my case, i was doing science event. As much as it isn't a bug, shouldnt really happen as it has no meaning nor sense really. Past serie 19 you have to deal already with the heavy grind ahead, no need to make it worse.

You do realise tho that the infinite streak is not something kabam have released as a guide

Gutt

i got a death match at 117 i was using 4* at r4 max with 3300 pi each at the time.such BS

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DarthPhal

I’m not sure what a death match is but these bonus point rounds are sweet.

GroundedWisdom

It's easily solved if you increase the PI of the Teams you bring. Which means the lower end of your R3s will be riskier. Pair them with two higher PI Champs to be cautious. The biggest tool is to work on getting past the Deathmatches no matter who you bring.

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ThatGuy214

I avoid these by trying to have combined PI over 9k

ThatGuy214

Plus as long as you can bait out speacials most death matches are easily winnable

hungryhungrybbq

The solution is simple. You don't even necessarily need to mix in higher ranks. What I do is simply take (2) 1/25 from the top of the list (highest PI available at the moment) and place them with (1) 1/25 from the bottom of the list. I have had no issues with this method.

hungryhungrybbq

I repeat this for each series until finished..

beyonder8421

I think this happened during the goldpool or healing factor arenas, not sure which one, I used 3 stars (above 2000) and got a death match. So i figured out that even if they allow you to use 3 stars in those arenas, you should never use them. Cannot remember which arena it was right now. But it was one that allowed me to use 3 stars.