I see nothing in that video that screams "innocent". Somebody in the alliance was/is cheating.
dude, a youtuber who earns money off mcoc, wouldn't cheat. if you are new to this game or old or whatever, i dont care. if it hasn't happened to you, good but when it does your sorry @s$ will be crying as well.
A youtuber who earns money wouldnt cheat?
Liljoh
Veks
Slycem have all had 7 day bans in the past.
Seatin openly admitted to acct sharing
Dont hold them up so high
A high level ally aren't fools. You make a mistake once and get hit, fine, but you won't make the same mistake. If they really cheat, they wouldn't make the same mistakes again n again....especially if they are so hands on cheating. sure those guys cheated or more likely exploited a loophole, but Kabam is at fault as well as they don't explicitly say why they are banning
That's because they can't share information about accounts. Privacy laws etc.
So let the cheater continue cheating? Is that better? Awesome mate, you should keep on sucking up to your Kabam and blindly follow what they preach.
Cheater cheats --> Ban him but don't tell who it is so other Ally also get hurt by him. Good job Kabam, you should run for President next
I would prefer they are permanently banned... but, Kabam can't do anything about privacy laws. What would you have them do?
ban said person from participating in game modes they cheated in
Hold on guys. I was in the same alliance with the Youtuber DubnDad until a couple days ago (went to a smaller ally to help out a friend). While I believe in most instances penalties and bans are often justified and I believe Mike's friends are lying, I wanted to clear up that no one was knowingly found cheating in this ally.
Unless somebody lied as well, but there was no evidence of such when I was there. Yet the war rating point deductions kept happening and the ally is in a quandary as to what to do, because Kabam won't divulge the actual cause of the penalty despite repeated tickets to Support. I sincerely hope they get that rectified for Season 3 as the ally plays legitimately.
I actually agree that they should do more to help alliance leaders remove the sources of cheating within their alliances, and have said so in the past. However, revealing the manner in which the cheating was detected would do more to spread cheating than prevent it, and in no way do I believe they should do that.
I actually agree that they should do more to help alliance leaders remove the sources of cheating within their alliances, and have said so in the past. However, revealing the manner in which the cheating was detected would do more to spread cheating than prevent it, and in no way do I believe they should do that.
Ok that is fine, how about rectify clearly WHY they were banned? They just say you broke ToS which is generic
I would not be against them telling a banned player in a private message which of the rules they broke.
I actually agree that they should do more to help alliance leaders remove the sources of cheating within their alliances, and have said so in the past. However, revealing the manner in which the cheating was detected would do more to spread cheating than prevent it, and in no way do I believe they should do that.
Ok that is fine, how about rectify clearly WHY they were banned? They just say you broke ToS which is generic
I would not be against them telling a banned player in a private message which of the rules they broke.
Yes because people get banned for using backup phones too and this was also reported by either RichtheMan or PRof Hoff youtuber as well
I doubt that they were told that they were banned for using a backup phone. That is more likely an assumption, especially given that using multiple devices is not against the tos.
I see nothing in that video that screams "innocent". Somebody in the alliance was/is cheating.
dude, a youtuber who earns money off mcoc, wouldn't cheat. if you are new to this game or old or whatever, i dont care. if it hasn't happened to you, good but when it does your sorry @s$ will be crying as well.
A youtuber who earns money wouldnt cheat?
Liljoh
Veks
Slycem have all had 7 day bans in the past.
Seatin openly admitted to acct sharing
Dont hold them up so high
A high level ally aren't fools. You make a mistake once and get hit, fine, but you won't make the same mistake. If they really cheat, they wouldn't make the same mistakes again n again....especially if they are so hands on cheating. sure those guys cheated or more likely exploited a loophole, but Kabam is at fault as well as they don't explicitly say why they are banning
I see nothing in that video that screams "innocent". Somebody in the alliance was/is cheating.
dude, a youtuber who earns money off mcoc, wouldn't cheat. if you are new to this game or old or whatever, i dont care. if it hasn't happened to you, good but when it does your sorry @s$ will be crying as well.
A youtuber who earns money wouldnt cheat?
Liljoh
Veks
Slycem have all had 7 day bans in the past.
Seatin openly admitted to acct sharing
Dont hold them up so high
A high level ally aren't fools. You make a mistake once and get hit, fine, but you won't make the same mistake. If they really cheat, they wouldn't make the same mistakes again n again....especially if they are so hands on cheating. sure those guys cheated or more likely exploited a loophole, but Kabam is at fault as well as they don't explicitly say why they are banning
2 of the guys you mentioned bought units from fraud cards so not a loop hole. An outright crime but only a 7 day ban
They don’t throw bans out for fun. And they don’t ban for account sharing like they say they do either. They really only ban for legit reasons. So guys that get banned can go kick rocks and say thanks.
So you think they look at accounts individually and ban them?
They don't use some algorithm that could be flawed?
I see nothing in that video that screams "innocent". Somebody in the alliance was/is cheating.
dude, a youtuber who earns money off mcoc, wouldn't cheat. if you are new to this game or old or whatever, i dont care. if it hasn't happened to you, good but when it does your sorry @s$ will be crying as well.
Vexcks and LilJoh cheated and both are famouse youtubers and both admitted it
"In the spirit of full transparency, we also regret to inform you that a member of our Content Creators Program was one of the Summoners that excessively abused this exploit. We want you to know that not only will they be removed from the Content Creators Program, but will be given a permanent in game ban. It’s very important to us that we let you all know that our Content Creators do not receive any free in-game items (except for preview purposes, which are later removed), nor do they receive special treatment from us."
the more you know dude.
i trusted all 3 people to be fair playing people, AND YES i do know all 3 of them
Atleast for multiple accounts, kabam system detect is faulty and results in AW ratings dropped. I keep mentioning this in some other similar posts and no support from kabam team apart from automated replies. No email notifications from kabam either. This is to the point I have stopped doing AW
I don't understand why there is so much hate for Kabam on everything besides their cheat detecting software... You are telling me that after everything the players have been through in the last month, all of the mistakes, bugs, and issues that we have had with the game, people still think that Kabam has a 100% cheater catch rate? The idea is laughable...
I don't believe for a second that Kabam can catch all the cheaters, and I also don't believe for a second that they have never banned an innocent player. No company or person is perfect and especially not Kabam, so I think people should stop jumping in on threads regarding bans and tell them to suck it up and stop cheating. We are all better than this, and we all know how often mistakes are made with this company. It really isn't all that unlikely that Kabam's software for cheat detecting is flawed given all of our past experience with them.
If you're going to constantly berate Kabam for the things they do, at least be consistent and do it in all areas rather than picking and choosing where you criticize them. There is no way for those of us on the forums to know whether a ban is fair or unfair, all we have is the players word. I realize that cheaters are gonna cheat, lie, and do everything to get out of a ban, but when someone comes here and says that they are innocent, I don't think we have any real reason not to take them at their word.
When you stop and think about it, what good is it going to do to tell people to stop cheating, if they are cheaters what difference is that going to make? If they are innocent... Well than you are just falsely accusing someone. We have no say in what happens with account bans so there is absolutely no point in coming to threads like these and telling people they got what they deserve. I hate cheaters just as much as the next person, but I'm not going to argue against someone that says they are innocent... Innocent until proven guilty right?
I don't understand why there is so much hate for Kabam on everything besides their cheat detecting software... You are telling me that after everything the players have been through in the last month, all of the mistakes, bugs, and issues that we have had with the game, people still think that Kabam has a 100% cheater catch rate? The idea is laughable...
I don't believe for a second that Kabam can catch all the cheaters, and I also don't believe for a second that they have never banned an innocent player. No company or person is perfect and especially not Kabam, so I think people should stop jumping in on threads regarding bans and tell them to suck it up and stop cheating. We are all better than this, and we all know how often mistakes are made with this company. It really isn't all that unlikely that Kabam's software for cheat detecting is flawed given all of our past experience with them.
If you're going to constantly berate Kabam for the things they do, at least be consistent and do it in all areas rather than picking and choosing where you criticize them. There is no way for those of us on the forums to know whether a ban is fair or unfair, all we have is the players word. I realize that cheaters are gonna cheat, lie, and do everything to get out of a ban, but when someone comes here and says that they are innocent, I don't think we have any real reason not to take them at their word.
When you stop and think about it, what good is it going to do to tell people to stop cheating, if they are cheaters what difference is that going to make? If they are innocent... Well than you are just falsely accusing someone. We have no say in what happens with account bans so there is absolutely no point in coming to threads like these and telling people they got what they deserve. I hate cheaters just as much as the next person, but I'm not going to argue against someone that says they are innocent... Innocent until proven guilty right?
yeah there is no way to tell so coming on here trying to be mr innocent is pointless and people should stop trying just like we can't prove there guilty we also can't prove there not lying
I don't understand why there is so much hate for Kabam on everything besides their cheat detecting software... You are telling me that after everything the players have been through in the last month, all of the mistakes, bugs, and issues that we have had with the game, people still think that Kabam has a 100% cheater catch rate? The idea is laughable...
I don't believe for a second that Kabam can catch all the cheaters, and I also don't believe for a second that they have never banned an innocent player. No company or person is perfect and especially not Kabam, so I think people should stop jumping in on threads regarding bans and tell them to suck it up and stop cheating. We are all better than this, and we all know how often mistakes are made with this company. It really isn't all that unlikely that Kabam's software for cheat detecting is flawed given all of our past experience with them.
If you're going to constantly berate Kabam for the things they do, at least be consistent and do it in all areas rather than picking and choosing where you criticize them. There is no way for those of us on the forums to know whether a ban is fair or unfair, all we have is the players word. I realize that cheaters are gonna cheat, lie, and do everything to get out of a ban, but when someone comes here and says that they are innocent, I don't think we have any real reason not to take them at their word.
When you stop and think about it, what good is it going to do to tell people to stop cheating, if they are cheaters what difference is that going to make? If they are innocent... Well than you are just falsely accusing someone. We have no say in what happens with account bans so there is absolutely no point in coming to threads like these and telling people they got what they deserve. I hate cheaters just as much as the next person, but I'm not going to argue against someone that says they are innocent... Innocent until proven guilty right?
yeah there is no way to tell so coming on here trying to be mr innocent is pointless and people should stop trying just like we can't prove there guilty we also can't prove there not lying
Yeah I agree. Discussing bans is also against TOS, so shouldn't be on the forums in the first place. But when they do appear here, it would be nice to see a little less jumping to conclusions and assuming they are guilty. If we can't prove anything, then don't say anything.
I don't understand why there is so much hate for Kabam on everything besides their cheat detecting software... You are telling me that after everything the players have been through in the last month, all of the mistakes, bugs, and issues that we have had with the game, people still think that Kabam has a 100% cheater catch rate? The idea is laughable...
I don't believe for a second that Kabam can catch all the cheaters, and I also don't believe for a second that they have never banned an innocent player. No company or person is perfect and especially not Kabam, so I think people should stop jumping in on threads regarding bans and tell them to suck it up and stop cheating. We are all better than this, and we all know how often mistakes are made with this company. It really isn't all that unlikely that Kabam's software for cheat detecting is flawed given all of our past experience with them.
If you're going to constantly berate Kabam for the things they do, at least be consistent and do it in all areas rather than picking and choosing where you criticize them. There is no way for those of us on the forums to know whether a ban is fair or unfair, all we have is the players word. I realize that cheaters are gonna cheat, lie, and do everything to get out of a ban, but when someone comes here and says that they are innocent, I don't think we have any real reason not to take them at their word.
When you stop and think about it, what good is it going to do to tell people to stop cheating, if they are cheaters what difference is that going to make? If they are innocent... Well than you are just falsely accusing someone. We have no say in what happens with account bans so there is absolutely no point in coming to threads like these and telling people they got what they deserve. I hate cheaters just as much as the next person, but I'm not going to argue against someone that says they are innocent... Innocent until proven guilty right?
yeah there is no way to tell so coming on here trying to be mr innocent is pointless and people should stop trying just like we can't prove there guilty we also can't prove there not lying
Yeah I agree. Discussing bans is also against TOS, so shouldn't be on the forums in the first place. But when they do appear here, it would be nice to see a little less jumping to conclusions and assuming they are guilty. If we can't prove anything, then don't say anything.
criminals will play me innocent quite alot that's why most don't belive it
once last summer I saw a guy from the main community discord post he got banned for a week his account was then unbanned guy was usually helpfully and friendly no one would've suspected he cheated he was in a top ally
guy said he account shared on a wide scale arena war aq event quest special challanges ect
before being banned every champ he had that could be sold was sold
instead of believing anyone of the people that had his account details which alot had did it he did what op is doing now
He went on the forums and reddit as well as his freinds also went there and payed pretty much the same thing op did raged about how kabam had a security problem using the same argument of they made mistakes in the past so people hacking accounts is a thing
all his rants on here and reddit he (forgot) to say that he account shared on a wide scale
had a bunch of people on here and reddit believing him and got people for a weekend to come on here and rant against kabam for not rolling back his account
after seeing all this happen from the start and watching how fast people were to try and make him a victim
has made me completly not trust anyone who comes here and plays the victim card
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ban said person from participating in game modes they cheated in
Unless somebody lied as well, but there was no evidence of such when I was there. Yet the war rating point deductions kept happening and the ally is in a quandary as to what to do, because Kabam won't divulge the actual cause of the penalty despite repeated tickets to Support. I sincerely hope they get that rectified for Season 3 as the ally plays legitimately.
I would not be against them telling a banned player in a private message which of the rules they broke.
I doubt that they were told that they were banned for using a backup phone. That is more likely an assumption, especially given that using multiple devices is not against the tos.
2 of the guys you mentioned bought units from fraud cards so not a loop hole. An outright crime but only a 7 day ban
So you think they look at accounts individually and ban them?
They don't use some algorithm that could be flawed?
Vexcks and LilJoh cheated and both are famouse youtubers and both admitted it
https://www.reddit.com/r/ContestOfChampions/comments/8uu2je/fraud_units_cheap_odins_vekxs_lil_joh/
lil joh still has his video up
ALSO some one from youtuber content creator got banned, another famouse youtuber thats is also a contet creator
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/85170/regarding-test-functionality-exploit
"In the spirit of full transparency, we also regret to inform you that a member of our Content Creators Program was one of the Summoners that excessively abused this exploit. We want you to know that not only will they be removed from the Content Creators Program, but will be given a permanent in game ban. It’s very important to us that we let you all know that our Content Creators do not receive any free in-game items (except for preview purposes, which are later removed), nor do they receive special treatment from us."
the more you know dude.
i trusted all 3 people to be fair playing people, AND YES i do know all 3 of them
This right here ^
I don't believe for a second that Kabam can catch all the cheaters, and I also don't believe for a second that they have never banned an innocent player. No company or person is perfect and especially not Kabam, so I think people should stop jumping in on threads regarding bans and tell them to suck it up and stop cheating. We are all better than this, and we all know how often mistakes are made with this company. It really isn't all that unlikely that Kabam's software for cheat detecting is flawed given all of our past experience with them.
If you're going to constantly berate Kabam for the things they do, at least be consistent and do it in all areas rather than picking and choosing where you criticize them. There is no way for those of us on the forums to know whether a ban is fair or unfair, all we have is the players word. I realize that cheaters are gonna cheat, lie, and do everything to get out of a ban, but when someone comes here and says that they are innocent, I don't think we have any real reason not to take them at their word.
When you stop and think about it, what good is it going to do to tell people to stop cheating, if they are cheaters what difference is that going to make? If they are innocent... Well than you are just falsely accusing someone. We have no say in what happens with account bans so there is absolutely no point in coming to threads like these and telling people they got what they deserve. I hate cheaters just as much as the next person, but I'm not going to argue against someone that says they are innocent... Innocent until proven guilty right?
yeah there is no way to tell so coming on here trying to be mr innocent is pointless and people should stop trying just like we can't prove there guilty we also can't prove there not lying
Yeah I agree. Discussing bans is also against TOS, so shouldn't be on the forums in the first place. But when they do appear here, it would be nice to see a little less jumping to conclusions and assuming they are guilty. If we can't prove anything, then don't say anything.
criminals will play me innocent quite alot that's why most don't belive it
once last summer I saw a guy from the main community discord post he got banned for a week his account was then unbanned guy was usually helpfully and friendly no one would've suspected he cheated he was in a top ally
guy said he account shared on a wide scale arena war aq event quest special challanges ect
before being banned every champ he had that could be sold was sold
instead of believing anyone of the people that had his account details which alot had did it he did what op is doing now
He went on the forums and reddit as well as his freinds also went there and payed pretty much the same thing op did raged about how kabam had a security problem using the same argument of they made mistakes in the past so people hacking accounts is a thing
all his rants on here and reddit he (forgot) to say that he account shared on a wide scale
had a bunch of people on here and reddit believing him and got people for a weekend to come on here and rant against kabam for not rolling back his account
after seeing all this happen from the start and watching how fast people were to try and make him a victim
has made me completly not trust anyone who comes here and plays the victim card
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