Account Bans "Privacy Policy" double standard? Stop the Witch Hunts now.

TransTrans Member Posts: 12
edited August 2018 in General Discussion
Does anyone know why they refuse to say who is banned in-game yet on the forums they clearly show who is banned with the "Carry on this user is Banned" profile picture? (it even says status banned on their forum account)

It would be really helpful for alliances that have cheaters to easily snuff them out if they could be consistent and apply the same policy in-game as well.

The logic that they want to prevent witch hunts just doesn't make sense to me.

Uncertainty leads to witch hunts. How does clearly showing who is banned foster a witch hunt?

Am I missing something?

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  • Mitchell35Mitchell35 Member Posts: 1,897 ★★★★
    Which hunts are we talking about?
  • TransTrans Member Posts: 12
    Mitchell35 wrote: »
    Which hunts are we talking about?


    XD

    whoops. sorry english is not my first language. thanks!
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    Being banned from the Forum is not the same as in-game actions.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,024 ★★★★★
    Trans wrote: »
    Does anyone know why they refuse to say who is banned in-game yet on the forums they clearly show who is banned with the "Carry on this user is Banned" profile picture? (it even says status banned on their forum account)

    It would be really helpful for alliances that have cheaters to easily snuff them out if they could be consistent and apply the same policy in-game as well.

    The logic that they want to prevent witch hunts just doesn't make sense to me.

    Uncertainty leads to witch hunts. How does clearly showing who is banned foster a witch hunt?

    Am I missing something?

    Bans for cheating ans bans on the forums are completely separate. Bans on the forums arent from cheating, they are from bad behavior like cussing or such.
    Bans in game are from cheating or modding.


    Oh by the way its "witch".
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    Raganator wrote: »
    Being banned from the Forum is not the same as in-game actions.

    GW 10,000th post!!!! Congrats!

    Wasn't even paying attention. Thanks...I think? Lol. Just a number for me.
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  • TransTrans Member Posts: 12
    edited August 2018
    Being banned from the Forum is not the same as in-game actions.

    But the privacy policies agreed upon for your in-game account and forum account are the same.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    Dropfaith wrote: »
    Being banned from the Forum is not the same as in-game actions.

    That's really not the point they say they dont want to display banned accts then display banned accts here..

    Separate entities yes but the policy is the same really or should be

    Actually, the issue with that is privacy. People create a handle for the Forum, and their Account is linked. It's not the same because displaying it here pertains to Forum etiquette. It doesn't affect your Account, and has nothing to do with your game behavior. There are reasons why displaying it here serves as an example. Not the same in-game. No matter how people try, I don't see them putting cheaters on blast.
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  • TransTrans Member Posts: 12
    Dropfaith wrote: »
    Being banned from the Forum is not the same as in-game actions.

    That's really not the point they say they dont want to display banned accts then display banned accts here..

    Separate entities yes but the policy is the same really or should be

    Actually, the issue with that is privacy. People create a handle for the Forum, and their Account is linked. It's not the same because displaying it here pertains to Forum etiquette. It doesn't affect your Account, and has nothing to do with your game behavior. There are reasons why displaying it here serves as an example. Not the same in-game. No matter how people try, I don't see them putting cheaters on blast.

    A cheater is just another word for someone that broke the rules.


    When someone breaks a rule on the forums are put on blast (Jail bars/ CARRY ON PERSON IS BANNED) but when they break a rule in game they shouldnt be put on blast?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    edited August 2018
    Dropfaith wrote: »
    Dropfaith wrote: »
    Being banned from the Forum is not the same as in-game actions.

    That's really not the point they say they dont want to display banned accts then display banned accts here..

    Separate entities yes but the policy is the same really or should be

    Actually, the issue with that is privacy. People create a handle for the Forum, and their Account is linked. It's not the same because displaying it here pertains to Forum etiquette. It doesn't affect your Account, and has nothing to do with your game behavior. There are reasons why displaying it here serves as an example. Not the same in-game. No matter how people try, I don't see them putting cheaters on blast.

    It serves as an example.. but in game it wouldnt?I mean let's be serious here we both know I feel all bans should be permanent. Thus putting them.on blast is meaningless anyways as the acct is dead

    It will lead to many more problems in-game. The Forum is Public Domain. We see the behavior. We don't see what people do in-game. That's a privacy issue that extends to the contract of personal information between the Users and Kabam. Here, you can see what people do that requires action. Blasting cheaters in-game is just a whole can of shady **** that is not only unnecessary, it leads to anarchy.
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  • TransTrans Member Posts: 12
    Dropfaith wrote: »
    Dropfaith wrote: »
    Being banned from the Forum is not the same as in-game actions.

    That's really not the point they say they dont want to display banned accts then display banned accts here..

    Separate entities yes but the policy is the same really or should be

    Actually, the issue with that is privacy. People create a handle for the Forum, and their Account is linked. It's not the same because displaying it here pertains to Forum etiquette. It doesn't affect your Account, and has nothing to do with your game behavior. There are reasons why displaying it here serves as an example. Not the same in-game. No matter how people try, I don't see them putting cheaters on blast.

    It serves as an example.. but in game it wouldnt?I mean let's be serious here we both know I feel all bans should be permanent. Thus putting them.on blast is meaningless anyways as the acct is dead

    It will lead to many more problems in-game. The Forum is Public Domain. We see the behavior. We don't see what people do in-game. That's a privacy issue that extends to the contract of personal information between the Users and Kabam. Here, you can see what people do that requires action. Blasting cheaters in-game is just a whole can of shady **** that is not only unnecessary, it leads to anarchy.

    So blasting people that break the rules on the forums are ok, not shady and necessary.

    Blasting people that break the rules in-game (which matters more) is not ok. shady and unnecessary.

    got it.
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  • TransTrans Member Posts: 12
    Kabam Miike said in this comment - https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/420618#Comment_420618

    "I will, however, pass on this thread to the team, and the feedback we have received on the desire for more information in regards to TOS Violations in Alliances."


    I wonder what came out of this feedback that he reported to his team - it has been over 2 months now and no feedback returned to us and only more frustration, people qutting, etc.

    How hard would it be to change the privacy policy? Similar to the new GDPR compliance where people had to agree to this new policy. I am sure most of the players would accept a new privacy policy - only the cheaters would push back on this.
  • Hammerbro_64Hammerbro_64 Member Posts: 7,463 ★★★★★
    What I think kabam should do when they catch a cheater is ban them from joining alliances and or automatically kick them.
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  • Kabam ZibiitKabam Zibiit Administrator Posts: 7,033
    Hey there, the two situations are handled a bit differently because they can have a different impact on players. If other people know someone's forum account was banned, that information isn't related to their game account and this doesn't really impact their ability to play the game or interact with other players within the game.
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