should we be able to 'BLOCK' people on FORUMS??

Trolls, antagonists, noobs, know-it-all's,
or just the guy that finds it necessary to comment on EVERYTHING & wont shut up, when asked politely by several other people.....

Whatever your reasons,

Comments

username92847

Ya know GW, I didnt notice till now, but u have spent a lot of time formulating & typing comments & attempting to moderate this post.... for someone who doesnt even have a dog in the race. (U never voted)

GroundedWisdom

I_am_Groot wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

They censor the content based on the rules we all adhere to by using the Forum. There are rules to the Forum. Rules we agree to.

Censorship definition don't discriminate whether or not were rules and/or whether or not someone was agree.

Censorship just implies inhibit people from speaking freely whatever was the reason stated, as yourself then admit just one oration later.

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Censorship implies inhibiting people from speaking freely.

So even rules are censorship, technically inhibiting people for speaking freely.

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Moderation is not Censorship in that sense.

Just because you want use different sticks.
Whatever.

It's the last thing I'll write about this topic, because sadly I'm working with you derailing this thread.

My suggestion I think was very clear and it's not a human genocide, despite some people want to play the freedom knight role.
People everyday can and do block another people in Twitter/Facebook and that people cannot post again in anything of that person and nobody of us is "wording a strong freedom fatwa for the universal human right bs" neither overreacting anything.

My suggestion could have been a good tool to keep the forum clean and discussions contructives.
But I'll let the thread to the real suggestion now.

UwantUS_toQU1T wrote: »

This post is NOT about preventing anyone from commenting,...
It's about blocking someone's comment, from being SEEN by the individual person,
who has blocked them.

Sorry guy, that is the real topic.

Blocking someone's comments from your sight is not the same as stopping them from participating in a Thread. When you post in an Open Forum, it's for everyone. Not "Everyone except X, Y, and Z.". Has nothing to do with Human Rights. Has to do with the rights of participation in the Forum. When you put it out there, it's for everyone. If you feel the need to ignore someone, that would be your prerogative if the feature was available. You can't stop them from commenting on a Thread. It's not a personal Facebook Profile. It's not a Closed Discussion. It's an Open Forum.

GroundedWisdom

UwantUS_toQU1T wrote: »

Ya know GW, I didnt notice till now, but u have spent a lot of time formulating & typing comments & attempting to moderate this post.... for someone who doesnt even have a dog in the race. (U never voted)

It's not a requirement to vote to participate. Nor am I moderating. I'm participating. I'm indifferent. There are only two options. Doesn't bother me if people can Block.

username92847

Again, just so this post doesnt get shut down for getting derailed.....

This post is NOT about preventing anyone from commenting,

It's about blocking someone's comment, from being SEEN by the individual person,
who has blocked them.

(Hopefully, the end result is less conflict & more progressive conversation)

GroundedWisdom

UwantUS_toQU1T wrote: »

Again, just so this post doesnt get shut down for getting derailed.....

This post is NOT about preventing anyone from commenting,

It's about blocking someone's comment, from being SEEN by the individual person,
who has blocked them.

(Hopefully, the end result is less conflict & more progressive conversation)

I was discussing it because it came up. Conversations usually don't derail a Thread. Just when things get personal and people start coming for each other. The issue has come up before, and I'm personally not opposed to the idea. It's just not my decision to make. What concerns me is when people suggest stopping people from participating. That's not cool.
The other Forum had the ability. Not sure if this one does. They may have reasons for not having it. That I don't know. Wouldn't bother me either way. That's why I didn't vote. The other business about displaying the metrics and inhibiting people I have no time for. Lol.

GroundedWisdom

Dezz_1 wrote: »

wow over 2,000 posts. you've been busy

Literally worth nothing.

Hulksmasshh

It seems the ones who are against this the most are the ones in fear of having their avenue of being anonymously annoying to internet strangers taken away. It's clear what the majority of the community thinks based on the votes. Unfortunately most likely nothing will come out of it.

And to be clear, we are not talking about censorship here. We are talking about giving a person the right the ignore another user for any given reason. In any social media platform, there is a block function. In the old forums, there was a block function. In reddit, there is a block function. In cellphones, there is a block function. Why is this forum the only platform today without a block function?

GroundedWisdom

Hulksmasshh wrote: »

It seems the ones who are against this the most are the ones in fear of having their avenue of being anonymously annoying to internet strangers taken away. It's clear what the majority of the community thinks based on the votes. Unfortunately most likely nothing will come out of it.

And to be clear, we are not talking about censorship here. We are talking about giving a person the right the ignore another user for any given reason. In any social media platform, there is a block function. In the old forums, there was a block function. In reddit, there is a block function. In cellphones, there is a block function. Why is this forum the only platform today without a block function?

See, here's the fundamental problem with your theory. You assume that people are intentionally causing a disturbance when they could just be participating in a conversation, and they've been labeled Trolls so long that people become ignorant to anything they say. It happens.
The Block Function was not the debate. The debate was displaying the number of Blocks people have on them, and having the ability to Block others from a Thread. Also, this is not Reddit. Reddit is not an example of diplomatic conversation.

Hulksmasshh

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Hulksmasshh wrote: »

It seems the ones who are against this the most are the ones in fear of having their avenue of being anonymously annoying to internet strangers taken away. It's clear what the majority of the community thinks based on the votes. Unfortunately most likely nothing will come out of it.

And to be clear, we are not talking about censorship here. We are talking about giving a person the right the ignore another user for any given reason. In any social media platform, there is a block function. In the old forums, there was a block function. In reddit, there is a block function. In cellphones, there is a block function. Why is this forum the only platform today without a block function?

See, here's the fundamental problem with your theory. You assume that people are intentionally causing a disturbance when they could just be participating in a conversation, and they've been labeled Trolls so long that people become ignorant to anything they say. It happens.
The Block Function was not the debate. The debate was displaying the number of Blocks people have on them, and having the ability to Block others from a Thread. Also, this is not Reddit. Reddit is not an example of diplomatic conversation.

We are not talking about labeling trolls (at least I am not) or talking about showing the number of blocks someone has on them (that idea was shot down quickly). We are talking about giving a person the right to ignore another user for any given reason. The debate topic is literally the title of the thread: "Should we be Able to Block People on Forums?" About every form of digital communication today has some sort of user discretion block feature except this forum lol

GroundedWisdom

Hulksmasshh wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Hulksmasshh wrote: »

It seems the ones who are against this the most are the ones in fear of having their avenue of being anonymously annoying to internet strangers taken away. It's clear what the majority of the community thinks based on the votes. Unfortunately most likely nothing will come out of it.

And to be clear, we are not talking about censorship here. We are talking about giving a person the right the ignore another user for any given reason. In any social media platform, there is a block function. In the old forums, there was a block function. In reddit, there is a block function. In cellphones, there is a block function. Why is this forum the only platform today without a block function?

See, here's the fundamental problem with your theory. You assume that people are intentionally causing a disturbance when they could just be participating in a conversation, and they've been labeled Trolls so long that people become ignorant to anything they say. It happens.
The Block Function was not the debate. The debate was displaying the number of Blocks people have on them, and having the ability to Block others from a Thread. Also, this is not Reddit. Reddit is not an example of diplomatic conversation.

We are not talking about labeling trolls (at least I am not) or talking about showing the number of blocks someone has on them (that idea was shot down quickly). We are talking about giving a person the right to ignore another user for any given reason. The debate topic is literally the title of the thread: "Should we be Able to Block People on Forums?" About every form of digital communication today has some sort of user discretion block feature except this forum lol

It expanded. Hence the debate. Which is what prompted me to chime in. Actually the term Trolls was literally in the Poll, so yes it pertains.
Again, I have no idea whether it doesn't exist for a reason or not. I do know that the Flag System has been commented on as being visible so they can distinguish who is and is not abusing it. It may have some connection, but that's speculation on my part. I really don't have an opposition to it, but as I said, they may have their reasons.

Jaffacaked

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

UwantUS_toQU1T wrote: »

Ya know GW, I didnt notice till now, but u have spent a lot of time formulating & typing comments & attempting to moderate this post.... for someone who doesnt even have a dog in the race. (U never voted)

It's not a requirement to vote to participate. Nor am I moderating. I'm participating. I'm indifferent. There are only two options. Doesn't bother me if people can Block.

If people could block you then you would be left talking to yourself

username92847

Wow!!!... GW, looking back, ....
you are every other comment on this post.... & you didnt even vote.

Any chance you can humor me, for this post & pick a side ?
Left twix or right twix ?
Maybe prove to the rest of these ppl, that you ARENT representing the ppl that this post is really about.
(NO, i repeat, NO need to reply,... just vote)

Draco2199

As a person that was harassed on the forums I would agree a block function should be allowed. No one should be forced to be abused and should have the option to block a person if they feel they are crossing a line.

username92847

^^ i have also felt harrassed (part of the reason behind posting) & I'd feel more comfortable visiting forums, if i knew i didnt have to be subjected to negative ppl, whose agenda solely seems to be derailing, trolling, or causing conflict.

GroundedWisdom

UwantUS_toQU1T wrote: »

Wow!!!... GW, looking back, ....
you are every other comment on this post.... & you didnt even vote.

Any chance you can humor me, for this post & pick a side ?
Left twix or right twix ?
Maybe prove to the rest of these ppl, that you ARENT representing the ppl that this post is really about.
(NO, i repeat, NO need to reply,... just vote)

I already stated I'm indifferent. You only gave two options. Yes and No. If there was an in-between I would have selected that. It doesn't matter to me either way. I'm not pushing for it, but I'm not agaisnt it either.

GroundedWisdom

UwantUS_toQU1T wrote: »

^^ i have also felt harrassed (part of the reason behind posting) & I'd feel more comfortable visiting forums, if i knew i didnt have to be subjected to negative ppl, whose agenda solely seems to be derailing, trolling, or causing conflict.

Might want to point our that calling people "Trolls, antagonists, noobs, know-it-alls", and the rest of the paragraph in your Poll, is exactly what you are claiming to be subjected to.

username92847

Negative.
Its well known those types exist & no individual claims were made that this person or that person, is any kinda labeled thing...

But ppl read for themselves & judge accordingly, all the time.

No one can control that.
Except the person, whose comments are being judged.

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GroundedWisdom

This IS an Open Forum. One that has rules. Those rules state that people need to refrain from personal attacks and labeling others. If you're looking for a justification for that based on popular opinion, you will come up short.

OKAYGang

You can do it in the in game chat rooms, why not on the Forums? Good idea.

CoatHang3r

Take a queue from Lloyd he knows how to cope with things he doesn't want to listen to.

OKAYGang

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

This IS an Open Forum. One that has rules. Those rules state that people need to refrain from personal attacks and labeling others. If you're looking for a justification for that based on popular opinion, you will come up short.

I don't think the OP is personally attacking anybody. I took it as having the ability to tune people out if they annoy you much the same way you can block people in Global chat in the game. If I were to block you (hypothetically, of course) you would still be able to interact with mods and everyone else. I just wouldn't see your comments. That said, I probably wouldn't block you if it were an option so this is just an example. I have actually come to enjoy most of our intetactions lately and on rare occaisions you have even have managed to make me question my own views on some topics. You do occaisionally irk me with some of your many, many comments but not enough to block you. I honestly think this is a very good idea by the OP. It would certainly be more useful than the "flag" feature that does nothing and that everyone just abuses lately.

GroundedWisdom

There are rules to participating in a Public Forum. There are also rules to the In-Game Chat. If someone is being harassed, they have the means of dealing with it. It's not a free-for-all slander fest where people can fight amongst themselves.

OKAYGang wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

This IS an Open Forum. One that has rules. Those rules state that people need to refrain from personal attacks and labeling others. If you're looking for a justification for that based on popular opinion, you will come up short.

I don't think the OP is personally attacking anybody. I took it as having the ability to tune people out if they annoy you much the same way you can block people in Global chat in the game. If I were to block you (hypothetically, of course) you would still be able to interact with mods and everyone else. I just wouldn't see your comments. That said, I probably wouldn't block you if it were an option so this is just an example. I have actually come to enjoy most of our intetactions lately and on rare occaisions you have even have managed to make me question my own views on some topics. You do occaisionally irk me with some of your many, many comments but not enough to block you. I honestly think this is a very good idea by the OP. It would certainly be more useful than the "flag" feature that does nothing and that everyone just abuses lately.

The issue of Blocking is not what I was pointing out. The OP indicated that they were subjected to inappropriate responses, in whatever fashion. I was pointing out the fact that the Poll is inappropriate in and of itself because it encourages people to regard others as Trolls and know-it-alls. It's not constructive. It's actually the opposite. Frankly, this is not a place to label others and put them down. Even if the perception is "calling someone out", or "calling it as it is'. Blocking someone is fine. It's not the place to put people down. It's not the place to call anyone out. In fact, there are rules preventing that. I was pointing out the fact that someone who claims to be harassed simply because people they don't like participate in the Forum, is really not all that removed from contributing. There are many people we won't like. That doesn't give us the right to encourage others to hate on them by labeling them. Had the Post been simply asking if we should have Blocking Features, that would be different. Calling people Trolls, know-it-alls, and saying they won't shut up despite being told, displays a different intention.

[Deleted User]

Hey peeps, we've just added an 'ignore' feature that you can use if there are those you do not wish to see replies from. To use it:

1. Click on over to your profile page via your user name in the top right corner
2. On the profile page, click the drop-down arrow in the yellow box (it contains a small 'person' icon and is located to the left of the 'change picture' button)
3. Click on 'Edit Profile'
4. On the right hand side, click on 'Ignore list' at the bottom of your menu options
5. enter the user ID of the person you wish to 'ignore', hit okay.

This will result in this person's posts being automatically 'hidden' in threads that you're in. If the conversation doesn't make sense and you want to see what they've said, you can click on their comment to 'reveal' it, but by default they remain hidden. If there is a thread started by them, I would suggest you simply don't read it given that they bother you that much.

This feature will also prevent them from sending you private messages.

A LOT of what has been discussed here is non-constructive and includes thinly veiled comments about other Summoners, so I'm going to lock the thread down. But one more comment on harassing behaviour - we take this very seriously and if someone is insulting you or sending you threats please use our flagging system or notify a moderator if the behaviour has been targeted via private message.

Thank you.