@HksBindra I doubt they'd change something like this in the middle of a season.
For some further testing, I dropped my test alliance prestige from 4000 to 3200 and guess what...all of our matches also dropped down to other 3200 prestige alliances.
@HksBindra I doubt they'd change something like this in the middle of a season.
For some further testing, I dropped my test alliance prestige from 4000 to 3200 and guess what...all of our matches also dropped down to other 3200 prestige alliances.
@QuikPik they may have a reason now. Look at the alliance that's master rank 1 now. Overall master rank 4. They are the same losers I've been reporting here from the start. I've kicked many of them from my alliance back when my alliance was around 2500 rating. They can't even complete map 6 without items. They are a joke. Some of them aren't even level 60. And they're about to beat one of the top spending alliances in season rankings. I'm sure players from those top 3 alliances have emailed kabam. Kabam can't really afford them not playing. The only time they do something is when it starts affecting their pocket. Everyone knows this by now. I may be completely wrong but maybe they're finally fixing it.
And you nailed it the first time - matchmaking is completely based on prestige. I offered a solution here but no one discussed that further. I think that solution would work well with everyone.
@QuikPik what are you seeing now? Our last two wars were vs 9200 and 9500 prestige allies that finished plat 1 and plat 2 last season. But we destroyed both of them (my ally is 10,455 and finished plat 3 last season). Our opponents died 173 and 154 times vs our defense. Also every opponent this season for us has been within us by 20 spots on the leader board as it should be. Last season we had matchups 464 and 600 spots away from us on the leaderboards. I think it's safe to say that last season was a joke and now these allies that got a free season of not matching with tough defenses are getting bashed back down the rankings. I think matchmaking is fixed now to what it should be. If a 9500 prestige ally can beat us, awesome, congrats. But at least this season we are now matching to give both a chance.
Picture it.. a 9000 prestige alliance with mostly r4 5* champs finishing 1st place in seasons above a couple dozen alliances that would beat them 300 to 0 if they could ever match in war.
I wonder if that is what it will take for kabam to change matchmaking back to by war rating instead of by prestige.
Here's the updated list from 4-15-20. As you can see nothing has changed in their match making algorithm from last season.
Green - highest prestige alliance in tier Orange - alliances where prestige is less than 20-30% of highest rated alliance Red - alliances where prestige is at least 30% less than highest rated alliance
It's bad when in Plat 2 there's a 4300 prestige gap between the highest and lowest rated alliance. There's only 50 alliances in that tier. In Gold 2, the discrepancy is even worse. There's a 6800 prestige gap here. Yes there are a lot more alliances in Gold 2 but you should not have 4k prestige alliances in the same tier as an 11k alliance. Kabam is saying that an alliance fielding all R3 6* and R5 5* is as good at war as one that fields at best some R4 4*.
That 11k in Gold-2 is actually the outlier, and might not run a full 3 BG's, or at least plays casual without worrying about spending on Items, committing top champs to war, etc. So can’t really include them when saying how much of a Prestige spread there is in that tier.
Wonder if the apparent change in matching that may have just happened here mid-season will have the full effect in standings by end of this season, or if maybe won’t truly be reflected until end of next season standings.
Remember, I've only done the top 50 in each tier. I'm sure there are plenty of 10k alliances below rank 50 in Gold 2.
If Kabam has modified match making in the current season, it won't make much of a difference by the end of the season. The screen shots I saw in another post of 2 top rated alliances by war rating show something like +48/-8 adjustment. Alliances with inflated war ratings are still going to remain in the same tiers if they're only losing -8 in lop sided matches.
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For some further testing, I dropped my test alliance prestige from 4000 to 3200 and guess what...all of our matches also dropped down to other 3200 prestige alliances.
Look at the alliance that's master rank 1 now. Overall master rank 4.
They are the same losers I've been reporting here from the start.
I've kicked many of them from my alliance back when my alliance was around 2500 rating.
They can't even complete map 6 without items.
They are a joke. Some of them aren't even level 60.
And they're about to beat one of the top spending alliances in season rankings.
I'm sure players from those top 3 alliances have emailed kabam.
Kabam can't really afford them not playing.
The only time they do something is when it starts affecting their pocket. Everyone knows this by now.
I may be completely wrong but maybe they're finally fixing it.
And you nailed it the first time - matchmaking is completely based on prestige.
I offered a solution here but no one discussed that further.
I think that solution would work well with everyone.
I wonder if that is what it will take for kabam to change matchmaking back to by war rating instead of by prestige.
Green - highest prestige alliance in tier
Orange - alliances where prestige is less than 20-30% of highest rated alliance
Red - alliances where prestige is at least 30% less than highest rated alliance
It's bad when in Plat 2 there's a 4300 prestige gap between the highest and lowest rated alliance. There's only 50 alliances in that tier. In Gold 2, the discrepancy is even worse. There's a 6800 prestige gap here. Yes there are a lot more alliances in Gold 2 but you should not have 4k prestige alliances in the same tier as an 11k alliance. Kabam is saying that an alliance fielding all R3 6* and R5 5* is as good at war as one that fields at best some R4 4*.
Wonder if the apparent change in matching that may have just happened here mid-season will have the full effect in standings by end of this season, or if maybe won’t truly be reflected until end of next season standings.
If Kabam has modified match making in the current season, it won't make much of a difference by the end of the season. The screen shots I saw in another post of 2 top rated alliances by war rating show something like +48/-8 adjustment. Alliances with inflated war ratings are still going to remain in the same tiers if they're only losing -8 in lop sided matches.