Legendary class deal

KILLMФИGЕЯ · May 2020

We’re almost halfway through 2020 and $69 gives you a 80% chance at a 4 star?
Please kabam update your deals, I get it that “not every deal is meant to please everyone” but cmon now, it’s time to retire this legendary crystal lol

00Incredible_Hulk00 · May 2020

Did you guys remember they introduced the same thing earlier this year where the price was equal to the daily cavalier bundles for two weeks and they kept rotating on the basis of the class of that day and provided the option to choose from the three when opened. It was in my opinion a much better offer than this and I would surely buy atleast one if that deal comes back.

Feeney234 · May 2020

But its a "Focus Crystal"... that definitely adds about $40 value to it 🤣🤣🤣

Mellymel62 · May 2020

Mine is 49 bucks. Still too much. I’ll pass.

Osfan8 · May 2020

$69.99 in Canada. $49.99 in the US. Either way insane.

Bugmat78 · May 2020

Guaranteed 4* of your choosing. QoL upgrades.

CoatHang3r · May 2020

It’s 3 80% chances and you choose which one you want.

I’m curious what price point would you pay or what offer would you like to see?

DarthCorleone · May 2020

These are straight garbage. Just money hungry Kascam at its finest. Just stop buying them

DrZola · May 2020

The price is in my opinion laughable, but the offer doesn’t upset me. I would interpret any of these Nexus-type offers as an effort by the game to gather data on the amount of value the community puts on a Nexus product. More Nexus offers would (hopefully) suggest Nexus type products are on their way to becoming a prevalent game fixture.

But—what’s the easiest way to demonstrate to the game team that this price point is too high? Don’t buy.

Dr. Zola

Menkent · May 2020

CoatHang3r said:
It’s 3 80% chances and you choose which one you want.

I’m curious what price point would you pay or what offer would you like to see?

You're wrong about the math. 80% chance its a 4* nexus crystal, 20% chance it's a 5* nexus crystal. Even if it were a 5* class specific nexus crystal I wouldn't pay $50 for one. $30 maybe if it came with some better extras.

Thicco_Mode · May 2020

Menkent said:

CoatHang3r said:
It’s 3 80% chances and you choose which one you want.

I’m curious what price point would you pay or what offer would you like to see?
You're wrong about the math. 80% chance its a 4* nexus crystal, 20% chance it's a 5* nexus crystal. Even if it were a 5* class specific nexus crystal I wouldn't pay $50 for one. $30 maybe if it came with some better extras.

I thought they rolled three separate crystals, so you could have 1 five star and 2 four stars

CoatHang3r · May 2020

Menkent said:

CoatHang3r said:
It’s 3 80% chances and you choose which one you want.

I’m curious what price point would you pay or what offer would you like to see?
You're wrong about the math. 80% chance its a 4* nexus crystal, 20% chance it's a 5* nexus crystal. Even if it were a 5* class specific nexus crystal I wouldn't pay $50 for one. $30 maybe if it came with some better extras.

You’re right. 80% once. 20% chance to choose from 3 5*.

FRITO_Man · May 2020

Thicco_Mode said:

Menkent said:

CoatHang3r said:
It’s 3 80% chances and you choose which one you want.

I’m curious what price point would you pay or what offer would you like to see?
You're wrong about the math. 80% chance its a 4* nexus crystal, 20% chance it's a 5* nexus crystal. Even if it were a 5* class specific nexus crystal I wouldn't pay $50 for one. $30 maybe if it came with some better extras.
I thought they rolled three separate crystals, so you could have 1 five star and 2 four stars

no. It's star specific. For example, if you buy this and get a 4*, then it will be a 4* Nexuc
If a 5* shows up, it will be a 5* Nexus
still a trash deal tho

Jkw634 · May 2020

I bought it thinking each individual roll for a champ was a 20 percent for a 5 star not the whole crystal being either a 4 star or 5 star

Chovner · May 2020

These bundles are so damn bad... They need to fire the people who are responsible for creating these, this should cost $10CAD... Having 0 people buy a terrible $70 CAD deal is WAY BETTER than 1000 people buying a great $10 CAD deal...
Jesus.... *facepalm*

Notsavage19 · May 2020

No, I think by saying "specific rarity" they mean 4 and 5*s. That's the way it was with the Nexus PHC's.

Notsavage19 · May 2020

Also the chances of getting at least 1 5* hero in the three options would be around 60%. Someone check my math.

Mqc19 · May 2020

Terrible deal!

CoatHang3r · May 2020

Notsavage19 said:
Also the chances of getting at least 1 5* hero in the three options would be around 60%. Someone check my math.

There is a difference between Nexus and Focus crystals. Nexus basically rolls three crystals and presents them to you. Focus rolls a rarity then presents three options from that rarity.

*This is expressed in the text “three randomized champions of a shared rarity”.

Notsavage19 · May 2020

CoatHang3r said:

Notsavage19 said:
Also the chances of getting at least 1 5* hero in the three options would be around 60%. Someone check my math.
There is a difference between Nexus and Focus crystals. Nexus basically rolls three crystals and presents them to you. Focus rolls a rarity then presents three options from that rarity.

Exactly what I said.

You have a 20% chance of a 5* showing up in each slot, so you would have a 60% chance of having at least a 5* in a slot. But, the actual number is lower because you have to account for the duplication of champions.

Notsavage19 · May 2020

CoatHang3r said:

Notsavage19 said:
Also the chances of getting at least 1 5* hero in the three options would be around 60%. Someone check my math.
There is a difference between Nexus and Focus crystals. Nexus basically rolls three crystals and presents them to you. Focus rolls a rarity then presents three options from that rarity.

*This is expressed in the text “three randomized champions of a shared rarity”.

Nvm, I can't read lmao.

DrZola · May 2020

Notsavage19 said:

CoatHang3r said:

Notsavage19 said:
Also the chances of getting at least 1 5* hero in the three options would be around 60%. Someone check my math.
There is a difference between Nexus and Focus crystals. Nexus basically rolls three crystals and presents them to you. Focus rolls a rarity then presents three options from that rarity.
Exactly what I said.

You have a 20% chance of a 5* showing up in each slot, so you would have a 60% chance of having at least a 5* in a slot. But, the actual number is lower because you have to account for the duplication of champions.

Actually, I don’t think that’s correct either, even if it were possible to get different rarities among the three options. Probability doesn’t allow you to just add them up.

Dr. Zola

Jkw634 · May 2020

It says of specific rarity not shared. And at the end says rare chance for a 5 star champion. Should have said rare chance for 5 star champions If it was going to be all 4 or all 5 stars.

Notsavage19 · May 2020

DrZola said:

Notsavage19 said:

CoatHang3r said:

Notsavage19 said:
Also the chances of getting at least 1 5* hero in the three options would be around 60%. Someone check my math.
There is a difference between Nexus and Focus crystals. Nexus basically rolls three crystals and presents them to you. Focus rolls a rarity then presents three options from that rarity.
Exactly what I said.

You have a 20% chance of a 5* showing up in each slot, so you would have a 60% chance of having at least a 5* in a slot. But, the actual number is lower because you have to account for the duplication of champions.
Actually, I don’t think that’s correct either, even if it were possible to get different rarities among the three options.

Dr. Zola

I thought 20%*3=60%-x% that at least one of the choices is a 5*?
x% would account for the duplicates of champions, given that it doesn't work independently of each other.

StevieManWonder · May 2020

Straight up just a bad offer. It might be worth it if it were a nexus but even then it’s still about twenty bucks overpriced.

DrZola · May 2020

Notsavage19 said:

DrZola said:

Notsavage19 said:

CoatHang3r said:

Notsavage19 said:
Also the chances of getting at least 1 5* hero in the three options would be around 60%. Someone check my math.
There is a difference between Nexus and Focus crystals. Nexus basically rolls three crystals and presents them to you. Focus rolls a rarity then presents three options from that rarity.
Exactly what I said.

You have a 20% chance of a 5* showing up in each slot, so you would have a 60% chance of having at least a 5* in a slot. But, the actual number is lower because you have to account for the duplication of champions.
Actually, I don’t think that’s correct either, even if it were possible to get different rarities among the three options.

Dr. Zola
I thought 20%*3=60%-x% that at least one of the choices is a 5*?
x% would account for the duplicates of champions, given that it doesn't work independently of each other.

If each individual “roll” has a 80% chance of being a 4*, I believe the formula is 1-(.8^3) for a single 5*. But if you want to know the chance of whether or not you get 2 or even 3 5*’s, you’d need to get into permutations and use factorials and a different equation.

But my math is rusty and my brain is tired. Ask @CoatHang3r or one of the other quants on here for a better explanation.

Dr. Zola

AdixRaj · May 2020

Does kabam know the whole world is fighting Covid , economies gong into recession and unemployment at an all time high ?

Notsavage19 · May 2020

AdixRaj said:
Does kabam know the whole world is fighting Covid , economies gong into recession and unemployment at an all time high ?

Weren't you the user who wanted "kabam to step it up"? That's a hypocritical statement. You want Kabam to churn out more content and updates, which isn't very possible due to the outbreak (and is, therefore, very insensitive to the company), yet you also play the victim by saying Kabam is insensitive? Remember, Kabam is also fighting COVID, just like us.

BigPoppaCBONE · May 2020

It's 1 roll with an 80% chance for a 4 star and 20% for a 5 star. That's the probability unless you can get more of them.

Menkent · May 2020

DrZola said:
I believe the formula is 1-(.8^3) for a single 5*

This math would be correct if the crystals were three independent pulls. The more fun math is taking the 20% chance of it turning into what is effectively a 5* nexus and then going further to find the odds of getting a champ you actually want. For example, I only want three science champs in the current 5* pool (including the new midlife crisis captain america) of 25 champs. So for me the odds of getting at least one 5* version of a champ I want would be 0.2*(1-(22/25)^3). That comes out to about 6%. For other classes it would be even worse. Big nope.

Legendary class deal

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