Abyss Rewards Update [Merged Threads]

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  • Indrick781Indrick781 Posts: 422 ★★★
    This is a great addition, but those that haven't finished Abyss should not be penalized that heavily. Add the 15k 6* shards back and move the 6* Abyss Nexus crystal to a progression objective so people can actually see what they are looking for. Just like those that explored it already will get to do. My choice of which class crystal I get would vary greatly depending on what I get from the rest of the rewards.
  • MauledMauled Posts: 2,949 ★★★★★

    Mauled said:

    Haji_Saab said:

    Sooo people who have already 100% gets extra 15k 6* shards ...

    Why? this was never announced that if you do Abyss early you will get extra rewards

    All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
    Soooooo dumb. I thought you guys were trying to win back the player base. This is not how to do it.

    You are rewarding the whales and penalizing everyone else. Why not just reward and celebrate everyone equally?

    It boggles my mind that you think this is a significant improvement. If you can't increase the chance that the t5cc match the class of 6* that you would rank, there is limited incentive for non-whale players to do the content.

    I did one pass and got a skill t5cc. My only skill class 6* was vegan thor, FOR months...
    Your question highlights a possible answer. You have a Skill T5CC that you didn't want to use for months. If you still have it, you have the choice to choose a Skill Abyss Nexus crystal. From there, you can choose one of the 10 Champs you might want to take up. If you're really looking to chase a certain Champion, then maybe you decide to choose a different Class that you don't have a T5CC for yet. Abyss is not the only place to get T5CC, and every one of those is valuable and useable.

    The reason we went this direction with the Rewards update, and not with T5CC selection is because regardless of if you have a Champion to use your Skill T5CC on, it's still just as good as any other Skill T5CC. You will use it eventually. But if you open your 6-Star Crystal and get Groot, you're not likely to use him until he gets a Buff someday, and are going to be disappointed in the work you put in to get him.

    No, we are not going to remove Champions from the 6-Star Base pool, but we are looking at many solutions to mitigate that feeling. This is just one of them.
    Honestly, outside of adding a T5CC selector this is definitely the best option, potentially pretty fun too.

    The one question I have is - if I choose skill for example, will each champion in the reel be unique? 2 versions of Black Panther wouldn’t pop up in positions 3 and 6 for instance?
    I mean, there are 2 versions of Black Panther, but you wouldn't get 2 Black Panther (Civil War), or 2 Nick Fury. They will be unique.
    Cheers for the clarification. Right, back to arena
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Posts: 6,411 ★★★★★

    Knation said:

    MCOC_2020 said:

    Haji_Saab said:

    Sooo people who have already 100% gets extra 15k 6* shards ...

    Why? this was never announced that if you do Abyss early you will get extra rewards

    All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
    That is absolutly unfair.
    You are saying, that you want a fair competition and the fairness now is, that everyone exploring the abyss after the 25th gettin 15k 6* shards less?

    That is ridicilous!
    For that 15k, you get a Crystal that gives you a choice of one of 10 Champs. That currently doesn't exist in the game. Really nothing to be upset about.
    Well it’s more the fact that people who already 100% it know what t5cc they have and so can choose accordingly people who 100% after the change cannot
    If they have one, they know what they want. If they don't, then they can choose what they're going for. It's not that hard of a choice. 6 Classes. We all know what we're gunning for.
    How can you choose your T5cc?
    You choose the Champ you want. Who said the Cat must be choice as well?
    We're asking the option to know which champ to target. When you spend that much for 100% exploration, it makes sense.
    I understand the thought behind that and agree but in the end this is still a win for someone going through this. You'll eventually form every class of catalyst you won't necessarily eventually get or even get a good shot at a specific champ you want. People know who they want regardless of what catalysts they have. Yes, this would definitely be MUCH better if you could open all your t5c (at least you'll still have opened 1) but is still a very positive change for the vast majority of players.

    Personally it really doesn't do much for me but I'm glad that other people that have been wanting better odds at 6*s they want will have that option now. This is exactly what people have been asking for just not delivered particularly well.
    I agree that it's a positive change. I like the crystal. Definitely a step in the right direction. But they went about it in the wrong way. Reducing shards and making you open the crystal first is just plain wrong. Instead of being taken as a positive change which is was supposed to be, it has instead again created a difference between the player base.
    Like I said, not delivered particularly well at all lol.

    Regardless I think people would be a lot better off not always just focusing on the negative aspect of everything. In the end this is a big plus especially for those that aren't heavy spenders. They have really good odds at targeting a champ while not really giving the "whales" any more advantage. They have most of the champs they need already so giving out a t5c selector just gives me my 7th R3. This change does nothing for me personally but a whole lot for a lot more people
    I agree, but it does create a problem. Does that mean that in the future, every time they update Rewards newer players get the short end? Because if they do it once, they can do it again. And that's a bad standard to keep. It forces people to complete content earlier on if they would want the full rewards plus POSSIBLE additional rewards, thus again creating the problem of folks complaining if they do content without the right roster or time taken to plan.
    This isn't the 1st time something like this has happened at all and it pretty much went down the same way previously
  • Samuel030sSamuel030s Posts: 121
    edited June 2020

    People who aren't able to 100% Abyss aren't being that heavily penalized. The difference is legit 5k 6* shards, as small price to pay given that one can chose between ten Champions of a given class.
    Reducing the total amount of shards has clearly led to some outrage, but those who haven't attempted Abyss yet, over five months after it's been released, aren't likely to be close to completing, much less exploring the Abyss. For those that are close to exploring the Abyss, they have till June 25th to do so.

    The difference is 15k, not 5k. People that already did it will have 15k more 6* shards than people who haven't.
    Monk1 said:

    Duff12475 said:

    Duff12475 said:

    How bout adding a NEGATIVE 15,000 shards to 100% players? Then that would be fair

    If they penalized those who had already put time and effort into exploring the Abyss, the outrage would probably be even greater. Better to upset those who haven't done the content than those who have, I suppose,

    How bout keep both types of players happy with the update??!!

    And the negative shards was just a joke.
    Given the player reaction, keeping the 15k or at least only removing 10k would probably have been the better option.
    At this point, I'd put it this way. Would you pay 15k, or even 25k shards to purchase a 6-Star Crystal that guarantees a selection of 10 different Champions of a selected Class?
    I don’t think anybody would argue this is a great addition and worth 15k shards.. the issue is not that.

    The problem is those who have already done it are getting 15k shards more that those that complete it next month. There is no need for this.. just add the crystal and celebrate everyone being happy.
    Yes, those who have already explored the Abyss will have essentially gotten 15k more 6-Star shards than those who haven't yet.
    However, there is a difference of 5k shards when you compare only the rewards from now and to when they are updated. That's where that number comes from.
    I agree that they probably should've just kept the amount of 6*s the same, or offered a one-time Nexus Crystal deal as some have been saying.
  • Ebony_NawEbony_Naw Posts: 2,554 ★★★★★

    Haji_Saab said:

    Sooo people who have already 100% gets extra 15k 6* shards ...

    Why? this was never announced that if you do Abyss early you will get extra rewards

    All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
    Soooooo dumb. I thought you guys were trying to win back the player base. This is not how to do it.

    You are rewarding the whales and penalizing everyone else. Why not just reward and celebrate everyone equally?

    It boggles my mind that you think this is a significant improvement. If you can't increase the chance that the t5cc match the class of 6* that you would rank, there is limited incentive for non-whale players to do the content.

    I did one pass and got a skill t5cc. My only skill class 6* was vegan thor, FOR months...

    No, we are not going to remove Champions from the 6-Star Base pool, but we are looking at many solutions to mitigate that feeling. This is just one of them.
    Does this mean you're having discussions regarding the punishing RNG of the 6* pool in general, or was that only a discussion that took place regarding Abyss rewards?
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Posts: 6,411 ★★★★★
    loader187 said:

    Haji_Saab said:

    Sooo people who have already 100% gets extra 15k 6* shards ...

    Why? this was never announced that if you do Abyss early you will get extra rewards

    All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
    Soooooo dumb. I thought you guys were trying to win back the player base. This is not how to do it.

    You are rewarding the whales and penalizing everyone else. Why not just reward and celebrate everyone equally?

    It boggles my mind that you think this is a significant improvement. If you can't increase the chance that the t5cc match the class of 6* that you would rank, there is limited incentive for non-whale players to do the content.

    I did one pass and got a skill t5cc. My only skill class 6* was vegan thor, FOR months...
    Your question highlights a possible answer. You have a Skill T5CC that you didn't want to use for months. If you still have it, you have the choice to choose a Skill Abyss Nexus crystal. From there, you can choose one of the 10 Champs you might want to take up. If you're really looking to chase a certain Champion, then maybe you decide to choose a different Class that you don't have a T5CC for yet. Abyss is not the only place to get T5CC, and every one of those is valuable and useable.

    The reason we went this direction with the Rewards update, and not with T5CC selection is because regardless of if you have a Champion to use your Skill T5CC on, it's still just as good as any other Skill T5CC. You will use it eventually. But if you open your 6-Star Crystal and get Groot, you're not likely to use him until he gets a Buff someday, and are going to be disappointed in the work you put in to get him.

    No, we are not going to remove Champions from the 6-Star Base pool, but we are looking at many solutions to mitigate that feeling. This is just one of them.
    I am pretty sure I have never got a champ I can use from 100% Act 5, Act 6, LOL and completing 3 paths in ABys

    Duff12475 said:

    Duff12475 said:

    How bout adding a NEGATIVE 15,000 shards to 100% players? Then that would be fair

    If they penalized those who had already put time and effort into exploring the Abyss, the outrage would probably be even greater. Better to upset those who haven't done the content than those who have, I suppose,

    How bout keep both types of players happy with the update??!!

    And the negative shards was just a joke.
    Given the player reaction, keeping the 15k or at least only removing 10k would probably have been the better option.
    At this point, I'd put it this way. Would you pay 15k, or even 25k shards to purchase a 6-Star Crystal that guarantees a selection of 10 different Champions of a selected Class?
    your still not getting it. There was no reason to take anything away. Seatin said it perfect. "This Crystal is a win but there was no reason to take away 15k Shards." It only makes the whales happy. No matter the kind of math that you think this is, it is something that wasn't necessary.
    How does it help the whales? I'm legitimately curious what benefit you think we get. This change essentially does nothing for me at all. A t5c selector on the other hand absolutely gives me an advantage. I have all the champs I need already.
  • MauledMauled Posts: 2,949 ★★★★★

    Knation said:

    MCOC_2020 said:

    Haji_Saab said:

    Sooo people who have already 100% gets extra 15k 6* shards ...

    Why? this was never announced that if you do Abyss early you will get extra rewards

    All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
    That is absolutly unfair.
    You are saying, that you want a fair competition and the fairness now is, that everyone exploring the abyss after the 25th gettin 15k 6* shards less?

    That is ridicilous!
    For that 15k, you get a Crystal that gives you a choice of one of 10 Champs. That currently doesn't exist in the game. Really nothing to be upset about.
    Well it’s more the fact that people who already 100% it know what t5cc they have and so can choose accordingly people who 100% after the change cannot
    If they have one, they know what they want. If they don't, then they can choose what they're going for. It's not that hard of a choice. 6 Classes. We all know what we're gunning for.
    How can you choose your T5cc?
    You choose the Champ you want. Who said the Cat must be choice as well?
    We're asking the option to know which champ to target. When you spend that much for 100% exploration, it makes sense.
    I understand the thought behind that and agree but in the end this is still a win for someone going through this. You'll eventually form every class of catalyst you won't necessarily eventually get or even get a good shot at a specific champ you want. People know who they want regardless of what catalysts they have. Yes, this would definitely be MUCH better if you could open all your t5c (at least you'll still have opened 1) but is still a very positive change for the vast majority of players.

    Personally it really doesn't do much for me but I'm glad that other people that have been wanting better odds at 6*s they want will have that option now. This is exactly what people have been asking for just not delivered particularly well.
    I agree that it's a positive change. I like the crystal. Definitely a step in the right direction. But they went about it in the wrong way. Reducing shards and making you open the crystal first is just plain wrong. Instead of being taken as a positive change which is was supposed to be, it has instead again created a difference between the player base.
    Like I said, not delivered particularly well at all lol.

    Regardless I think people would be a lot better off not always just focusing on the negative aspect of everything. In the end this is a big plus especially for those that aren't heavy spenders. They have really good odds at targeting a champ while not really giving the "whales" any more advantage. They have most of the champs they need already so giving out a t5c selector just gives me my 7th R3. This change does nothing for me personally but a whole lot for a lot more people
    The marketing department need to go back to school. I frankly couldn’t care about that 15k shards - likely only going to be Rhino and the bottom half of Antman anyway. Outside of a T5CC selector which was my initial thought this is the best solution, but it’s infinitely more interesting.

    Hopefully it comes in the mail though so I can open my t5cc first, well, in another ~15k units worth of arena’s time
  • Samuel030sSamuel030s Posts: 121
    loader187 said:

    Haji_Saab said:

    Sooo people who have already 100% gets extra 15k 6* shards ...

    Why? this was never announced that if you do Abyss early you will get extra rewards

    All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
    Soooooo dumb. I thought you guys were trying to win back the player base. This is not how to do it.

    You are rewarding the whales and penalizing everyone else. Why not just reward and celebrate everyone equally?

    It boggles my mind that you think this is a significant improvement. If you can't increase the chance that the t5cc match the class of 6* that you would rank, there is limited incentive for non-whale players to do the content.

    I did one pass and got a skill t5cc. My only skill class 6* was vegan thor, FOR months...
    Your question highlights a possible answer. You have a Skill T5CC that you didn't want to use for months. If you still have it, you have the choice to choose a Skill Abyss Nexus crystal. From there, you can choose one of the 10 Champs you might want to take up. If you're really looking to chase a certain Champion, then maybe you decide to choose a different Class that you don't have a T5CC for yet. Abyss is not the only place to get T5CC, and every one of those is valuable and useable.

    The reason we went this direction with the Rewards update, and not with T5CC selection is because regardless of if you have a Champion to use your Skill T5CC on, it's still just as good as any other Skill T5CC. You will use it eventually. But if you open your 6-Star Crystal and get Groot, you're not likely to use him until he gets a Buff someday, and are going to be disappointed in the work you put in to get him.

    No, we are not going to remove Champions from the 6-Star Base pool, but we are looking at many solutions to mitigate that feeling. This is just one of them.
    I am pretty sure I have never got a champ I can use from 100% Act 5, Act 6, LOL and completing 3 paths in ABys

    Duff12475 said:

    Duff12475 said:

    How bout adding a NEGATIVE 15,000 shards to 100% players? Then that would be fair

    If they penalized those who had already put time and effort into exploring the Abyss, the outrage would probably be even greater. Better to upset those who haven't done the content than those who have, I suppose,

    How bout keep both types of players happy with the update??!!

    And the negative shards was just a joke.
    Given the player reaction, keeping the 15k or at least only removing 10k would probably have been the better option.
    At this point, I'd put it this way. Would you pay 15k, or even 25k shards to purchase a 6-Star Crystal that guarantees a selection of 10 different Champions of a selected Class?
    your still not getting it. There was no reason to take anything away. Seatin said it perfect. "This Crystal is a win but there was no reason to take away 15k Shards." It only makes the whales happy. No matter the kind of math that you think this is, it is something that wasn't necessary.
    I agree that it wasn't necessary, and it does like like a bad, or at least, untimely move on the developers part, given the state of the community.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 28,382 ★★★★★
    Here's the thing. The Abyss Nexus bypasses the RNG in spades. Do the math at the chances compared to Basics, Featured, or even regular Nexus Crystals. That's nothing to scoff at, really.
    However, I'm not sure where the expectation developed that all the RNG MUST line up perfectly between the Cat and the Champ. Thats one of those rare occurrences in RNG that's more akin to Acts of God (RNGesus) than anything. It doesn't always work out that way, and just because the content is more difficult doesn't mean that changes it. Sometimes things line up perfectly. Sometimes they don't.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Posts: 6,411 ★★★★★

    Knation said:

    MCOC_2020 said:

    Haji_Saab said:

    Sooo people who have already 100% gets extra 15k 6* shards ...

    Why? this was never announced that if you do Abyss early you will get extra rewards

    All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
    That is absolutly unfair.
    You are saying, that you want a fair competition and the fairness now is, that everyone exploring the abyss after the 25th gettin 15k 6* shards less?

    That is ridicilous!
    For that 15k, you get a Crystal that gives you a choice of one of 10 Champs. That currently doesn't exist in the game. Really nothing to be upset about.
    Well it’s more the fact that people who already 100% it know what t5cc they have and so can choose accordingly people who 100% after the change cannot
    If they have one, they know what they want. If they don't, then they can choose what they're going for. It's not that hard of a choice. 6 Classes. We all know what we're gunning for.
    How can you choose your T5cc?
    You choose the Champ you want. Who said the Cat must be choice as well?
    We're asking the option to know which champ to target. When you spend that much for 100% exploration, it makes sense.
    I understand the thought behind that and agree but in the end this is still a win for someone going through this. You'll eventually form every class of catalyst you won't necessarily eventually get or even get a good shot at a specific champ you want. People know who they want regardless of what catalysts they have. Yes, this would definitely be MUCH better if you could open all your t5c (at least you'll still have opened 1) but is still a very positive change for the vast majority of players.

    Personally it really doesn't do much for me but I'm glad that other people that have been wanting better odds at 6*s they want will have that option now. This is exactly what people have been asking for just not delivered particularly well.
    I agree that it's a positive change. I like the crystal. Definitely a step in the right direction. But they went about it in the wrong way. Reducing shards and making you open the crystal first is just plain wrong. Instead of being taken as a positive change which is was supposed to be, it has instead again created a difference between the player base.
    Like I said, not delivered particularly well at all lol.

    Regardless I think people would be a lot better off not always just focusing on the negative aspect of everything. In the end this is a big plus especially for those that aren't heavy spenders. They have really good odds at targeting a champ while not really giving the "whales" any more advantage. They have most of the champs they need already so giving out a t5c selector just gives me my 7th R3. This change does nothing for me personally but a whole lot for a lot more people
    I agree, but it does create a problem. Does that mean that in the future, every time they update Rewards newer players get the short end? Because if they do it once, they can do it again. And that's a bad standard to keep. It forces people to complete content earlier on if they would want the full rewards plus POSSIBLE additional rewards, thus again creating the problem of folks complaining if they do content without the right roster or time taken to plan.
    This isn't the 1st time something like this has happened at all and it pretty much went down the same way previously
    Basically something is broken, let it remain broken? That's not something that endears them to the player base.
    Not what I said at all. Just that this is far from the incident to set any precedent.
  • Sportsfan365Sportsfan365 Posts: 353
    This is as close to a champion selector we will ever get, I'm not sure I understand why people are complaining? This is a great change
  • BrokenBroken Posts: 172
    @Kabam Miike really people start hate this game coz bad pulls and act 6 exploration very very hard and that game is’t fun anymore need alot changes like arena system and solo objetive crystal we collect 6 shards like in 4 months and get bad pull and that feel so bad we work hard not for bad pulls i have like 18 6* not worth even 1 6* to r2 is this not hurt @Kabam Miike
  • MauledMauled Posts: 2,949 ★★★★★

    I will just say this as someone who has been looking at the abyss out of the corner of my eye but has not done any of it. I have R5 doom, Nick fury, Aegon (low sig), R5 max sig void (no torch), and Antman for the evade synergy. For me, this announcement makes it no more likely that I decide to run a single pass yet alone worry about exploration. I think if the goal was to entice people to play the content, this is not going to be effective at all. If this was an attempt to say thank you to players who have explored it, I am sure it is appreciated

    A single pass of AoL is probably a better use of 5k units than anything else in the game. Idk what it costs for most people to explore 6.2 but I wouldn’t be surprised if most people don’t drop an Odin on Champion alone.

  • KnightZeroKnightZero Posts: 1,211 ★★★★

    Knation said:

    MCOC_2020 said:

    Haji_Saab said:

    Sooo people who have already 100% gets extra 15k 6* shards ...

    Why? this was never announced that if you do Abyss early you will get extra rewards

    All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
    That is absolutly unfair.
    You are saying, that you want a fair competition and the fairness now is, that everyone exploring the abyss after the 25th gettin 15k 6* shards less?

    That is ridicilous!
    For that 15k, you get a Crystal that gives you a choice of one of 10 Champs. That currently doesn't exist in the game. Really nothing to be upset about.
    Well it’s more the fact that people who already 100% it know what t5cc they have and so can choose accordingly people who 100% after the change cannot
    If they have one, they know what they want. If they don't, then they can choose what they're going for. It's not that hard of a choice. 6 Classes. We all know what we're gunning for.
    How can you choose your T5cc?
    You choose the Champ you want. Who said the Cat must be choice as well?
    We're asking the option to know which champ to target. When you spend that much for 100% exploration, it makes sense.
    I understand the thought behind that and agree but in the end this is still a win for someone going through this. You'll eventually form every class of catalyst you won't necessarily eventually get or even get a good shot at a specific champ you want. People know who they want regardless of what catalysts they have. Yes, this would definitely be MUCH better if you could open all your t5c (at least you'll still have opened 1) but is still a very positive change for the vast majority of players.

    Personally it really doesn't do much for me but I'm glad that other people that have been wanting better odds at 6*s they want will have that option now. This is exactly what people have been asking for just not delivered particularly well.
    I agree that it's a positive change. I like the crystal. Definitely a step in the right direction. But they went about it in the wrong way. Reducing shards and making you open the crystal first is just plain wrong. Instead of being taken as a positive change which is was supposed to be, it has instead again created a difference between the player base.
    Like I said, not delivered particularly well at all lol.

    Regardless I think people would be a lot better off not always just focusing on the negative aspect of everything. In the end this is a big plus especially for those that aren't heavy spenders. They have really good odds at targeting a champ while not really giving the "whales" any more advantage. They have most of the champs they need already so giving out a t5c selector just gives me my 7th R3. This change does nothing for me personally but a whole lot for a lot more people
    I agree, but it does create a problem. Does that mean that in the future, every time they update Rewards newer players get the short end? Because if they do it once, they can do it again. And that's a bad standard to keep. It forces people to complete content earlier on if they would want the full rewards plus POSSIBLE additional rewards, thus again creating the problem of folks complaining if they do content without the right roster or time taken to plan.
    This isn't the 1st time something like this has happened at all and it pretty much went down the same way previously
    Basically something is broken, let it remain broken? That's not something that endears them to the player base.
    Not what I said at all. Just that this is far from the incident to set any precedent.
    Not saying that you said it. I'm saying that it's what it looks like when Kabam does it.

    Here's the thing. The Abyss Nexus bypasses the RNG in spades. Do the math at the chances compared to Basics, Featured, or even regular Nexus Crystals. That's nothing to scoff at, really.
    However, I'm not sure where the expectation developed that all the RNG MUST line up perfectly between the Cat and the Champ. Thats one of those rare occurrences in RNG that's more akin to Acts of God (RNGesus) than anything. It doesn't always work out that way, and just because the content is more difficult doesn't mean that changes it. Sometimes things line up perfectly. Sometimes they don't.

    Don't think you're able to understand the difficulty in getting a T5cc. Atleast if you know what class you have, you can target the class of champs. Especially since those who have finished it, have that option since they know the class they have to focus on based on the T5cc they have.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 28,382 ★★★★★

    Knation said:

    MCOC_2020 said:

    Haji_Saab said:

    Sooo people who have already 100% gets extra 15k 6* shards ...

    Why? this was never announced that if you do Abyss early you will get extra rewards

    All content is subject to change, and that includes Encounters, rewards, Champion abilities, etc. This will never be announced at the outset because our intention wasn't to change the rewards later.
    That is absolutly unfair.
    You are saying, that you want a fair competition and the fairness now is, that everyone exploring the abyss after the 25th gettin 15k 6* shards less?

    That is ridicilous!
    For that 15k, you get a Crystal that gives you a choice of one of 10 Champs. That currently doesn't exist in the game. Really nothing to be upset about.
    Well it’s more the fact that people who already 100% it know what t5cc they have and so can choose accordingly people who 100% after the change cannot
    If they have one, they know what they want. If they don't, then they can choose what they're going for. It's not that hard of a choice. 6 Classes. We all know what we're gunning for.
    How can you choose your T5cc?
    You choose the Champ you want. Who said the Cat must be choice as well?
    We're asking the option to know which champ to target. When you spend that much for 100% exploration, it makes sense.
    I understand the thought behind that and agree but in the end this is still a win for someone going through this. You'll eventually form every class of catalyst you won't necessarily eventually get or even get a good shot at a specific champ you want. People know who they want regardless of what catalysts they have. Yes, this would definitely be MUCH better if you could open all your t5c (at least you'll still have opened 1) but is still a very positive change for the vast majority of players.

    Personally it really doesn't do much for me but I'm glad that other people that have been wanting better odds at 6*s they want will have that option now. This is exactly what people have been asking for just not delivered particularly well.
    I agree that it's a positive change. I like the crystal. Definitely a step in the right direction. But they went about it in the wrong way. Reducing shards and making you open the crystal first is just plain wrong. Instead of being taken as a positive change which is was supposed to be, it has instead again created a difference between the player base.
    Like I said, not delivered particularly well at all lol.

    Regardless I think people would be a lot better off not always just focusing on the negative aspect of everything. In the end this is a big plus especially for those that aren't heavy spenders. They have really good odds at targeting a champ while not really giving the "whales" any more advantage. They have most of the champs they need already so giving out a t5c selector just gives me my 7th R3. This change does nothing for me personally but a whole lot for a lot more people
    I agree, but it does create a problem. Does that mean that in the future, every time they update Rewards newer players get the short end? Because if they do it once, they can do it again. And that's a bad standard to keep. It forces people to complete content earlier on if they would want the full rewards plus POSSIBLE additional rewards, thus again creating the problem of folks complaining if they do content without the right roster or time taken to plan.
    This isn't the 1st time something like this has happened at all and it pretty much went down the same way previously
    Basically something is broken, let it remain broken? That's not something that endears them to the player base.
    Not what I said at all. Just that this is far from the incident to set any precedent.
    Not saying that you said it. I'm saying that it's what it looks like when Kabam does it.

    Here's the thing. The Abyss Nexus bypasses the RNG in spades. Do the math at the chances compared to Basics, Featured, or even regular Nexus Crystals. That's nothing to scoff at, really.
    However, I'm not sure where the expectation developed that all the RNG MUST line up perfectly between the Cat and the Champ. Thats one of those rare occurrences in RNG that's more akin to Acts of God (RNGesus) than anything. It doesn't always work out that way, and just because the content is more difficult doesn't mean that changes it. Sometimes things line up perfectly. Sometimes they don't.

    Don't think you're able to understand the difficulty in getting a T5cc. Atleast if you know what class you have, you can target the class of champs. Especially since those who have finished it, have that option since they know the class they have to focus on based on the T5cc they have.
    Let's be rational. This isn't the only place T5CCs are available, and we know based on the game's history that they will be made more available in due course.
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