Hawkeye needs improvement

He is too simple for the time being, which many champions with awesome stuff have jointed the contest.

He is the guy with bow and arrow, but not only that, he has many kind of arrows. But in this game, all he does with his arrows is bleeding enemy. Yes, that's nice but he should be capable to do more since, as many of us know, he has many tricky and special arrows. The animations you have for Hawkeye should keep the same, just change the effect of them (like you did with Winter Soldier).

Special 1 - keeps causing that massive bleeding and draining power.
Special 2 - since there is some shock in this arrow, it should causes shock
Special 3 - many arrows that explode, huh? it should causes incinerate

Don't I need to say that shock and incinerate has to cause a big loss of HP like special 1, otherwise they're not that useful

Comments

Solrac_2

Agree! Please also increase his atrocious prestige.

Sungj

He is fine as he is there are so many champions that need buffs hawkeye isn't one of them. Yes he is simple but he is a case of a simple yet effective champion if multiple people can do LOL with him I think he is a good champ.

wolf

Sungj wrote: »

He is fine as he is there are so many champions that need buffs hawkeye isn't one of them. Yes he is simple but he is a case of a simple yet effective champion if multiple people can do LOL with him I think he is a good champ.

He still needs improvement anyway

Drewbe14

No...champions like colossus need the attention way more

wolf

Drewbe14 wrote: »

No...champions like colossus need the attention way more

Collossus, Hawkeye, a lot of them need improvement

Mr_Otter

I agree vs bleed immune he should get a Sp1 shock and Sp2 incinerate (about half the damage of Bleed with shock lasting slightly longer and incinerate being nearly double the length)

Now I agree both Hawkeye and Gamora signatures NEED multiple triggers in a fight but there are WAY more pressing issues

Vision needs a fix badly
Abomination needs his signature buffed
Black Widow needs some crit damage
X23 could easily lose her cap
War Machine needs a change to Sig
Both Magneto need updates
Kamala Khan needs something
Spider Gwen needs her modes combined
Joe Fixit needs stronger abilities
Karnak and Iron Fist need base armor
Luke Cage needs SOMETHING badly
Agent Venom needs an actually signature
Carnage and Venom need buffs kinda
Doctor Stranges needs a new job
Hood "expire" is a lie
Gambit needs his charges altered
The CA/WWII need a buff for past Act4
Moon Knight needs a built in star chart

Honestly Hawkeye sits in the upper class of One-Trick ponies. He's not a Swiss knife but he's a reliable Special bleeder and power drainer…

Skill class as a whole isn't particularly bad regardless of what niche it's being used for. They are kinda the opposite of science. Science has a wide range of abilities and niches that ultimately have 3 great champs and then a steep drop in quality where Skill has a bland but dependable line up.

Cavalier

Just let him swap out different arrows the same as Winter Soldier.

KhanMedina

Hawkeye is a beast. He really doesn't need anything.

TheMageHunter

Hes pretty good already just his sp2 and sp3 are quite lackluster

Dark_King888

What level are you? You would soon learn that Hawkeye is one of the best power control champs out there with Magik and Psylock. You can use him anywhere if you use him right. His bleed is a bonus.

wappykid

hawker against bleed immune is a bad fight

wappykid

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wappykid

hawkeye special 1 is OK but the special 2 is almost grew same in the amount of bleed

wappykid

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wappykid wrote: »

hawkeye special 1 is OK but the special 2 is almost grew same in the amount of bleed

wolf

Or kabam upgrades Hawkeye, or his special 2 and 3 will rarely used as every ancient player knows that special 1 is always your best choice. It's boring to be tied to only one type of strategy; bleeding and power burning is good, but sometimes you need different tricks and besides special 1, Hawkeye doesn't have much to offer

Cavalier wrote: »

Just let him swap out different arrows the same as Winter Soldier.

This

KhanMedina wrote: »

Hawkeye is a beast. He really doesn't need anything.

The word "beast" doesn't fit Hawkeye

wappykid wrote: »

hawker against bleed immune is a bad fight

yes, and he has nothing to make up for that

Dexman1349

"against bleed immune" is the key operative. Against these same nodes, even top tier champs like AA, Wolvie, Guilly, Gwenpool, and X23 are all at a disadvantage, which is why you don't use a bleed-dependent champ in those fights.

You need to learn how to fight without relying on bleed and/or other debuffs. Learn to use champs that have buffs (like Hype, Xbones, Thor, Hulk, etc) that allow them to hit like trucks.

Not being able to use a wide arsenal of champs is no reason to start nerfing/buffing others.

Mr_Otter

Dexman1349 wrote: »

"against bleed immune" is the key operative. Against these same nodes, even top tier champs like AA, Wolvie, Guilly, Gwenpool, and X23 are all at a disadvantage, which is why you don't use a bleed-dependent champ in those fights.

You need to learn how to fight without relying on bleed and/or other debuffs. Learn to use champs that have buffs (like Hype, Xbones, Thor, Hulk, etc) that allow them to hit like trucks.

Not being able to use a wide arsenal of champs is no reason to start nerfing/buffing others.

Except:
X23 has cruelty
GP still has her Sp1 incinerate
Guilly has her lifesteal sig
Wolvie has HUGE regen

AA needs a counter in sorry to say so he DESERVES to struggle against bleed immune!

But he IS known for trick arrows and all that so adding a SMALL shock/incinerate on Sp1-2 respectively ONLY against bleed immune wouldn't hurt

Voodoo has huge power burn and poisons (nothing's ever gonna really stop him)

Vision AoU has a gangster Sp2 P-BURN and steal and double immunities

Magik has her lock-drain-limbo trifecta PLUS buff denial

Dormammu has his Degen, Soul bonds, and Burns… plus a lock, a large drain, and essentially is Sp3 immune if you can fight with him

Even HOOD gets the Hex/Shock damage and a small siphon on buff spammers

Hawkeye is the only power control without reliable damage outside his primary and aside from Dormammu who is only a power control on a technicality or 2 he's probably at the bottom for consistent damage against all enemies