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  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,242 ★★★★★
    edited July 2020
    -sixate- said:

    I love how weak alliances were fine with a system that gave them war ratings higher than alliances they couldn't compete with if their lives depended on it. Now that you have to prove your war rating it's unfair!? Lol! I hate war with a passion, but this is actually a step in the right direction. You want top rewards, prove you're good enough or go to the properly placed tier.

    The system Matched people equally. Everyone earned their Rating by winning their own Matches. Not taking out weak Allies.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,242 ★★★★★
    Aleor said:

    I was thinking about how it's better to half ratings rather then resetting every alliance rating to 0, with wich top alliance of prev season could've probably have some new alliance of beginners.
    Yes, surely half ratings should make the transition faster
    Cutting them in half did nothing to stop the situation we have, which is the whole basis for this Thread. Now we have people facing these needlessly overpowered Matches, and others are just throwing it in their faces. Great solution. Treat people like #### and tell them they have no basis to complain.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,242 ★★★★★
    At the very least, this shouldn't have been implemented this way. People are working for their Season, and that's true for the first Alliance up to Master 1. It should have been implemented in a way that didn't ruin the Season for everyone but the highest. If you have to undervalue one section of the Player Base to make the other happy, you end up with a situation that's no better.
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  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Member Posts: 8,852 ★★★★★

    At the very least, this shouldn't have been implemented this way. People are working for their Season, and that's true for the first Alliance up to Master 1. It should have been implemented in a way that didn't ruin the Season for everyone but the highest. If you have to undervalue one section of the Player Base to make the other happy, you end up with a situation that's no better.

    even if one season was ruined, its better than keeping the old system, which I think we can all agree on. I respectfully ask you what you would have done if you were kabam so that smaller allies would not be boomed as war ratings were corrected. you may have said it but I didn't catch it.
    @GroundedWisdom
  • Zodiac_SignsZodiac_Signs Member Posts: 54
    Having read through all the for and against, I can only say I do see both sides of the coin. Removing rewards, GW actually has a point. Stripping down to basics, wars are fought between two evenly matched teams. It takes the same effort to secure a victory. So, I can see where he is coming from. He isn't against the objective but the implementation.

    That doesn't mean the use of war rating is wrong though. It is a long term gain and when the storm has settled, it will benefit everyone. At least we can genuinely say we are at where we belong.

    Give it this season. Play it competitively or play it leisurely. Just give it some time
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,242 ★★★★★
    edited July 2020
    ItsDamien said:

    Equal in whose eyes? Equality isn't equal, it dragged people down to raise others up who wouldn't have been able to beat the teams that were dragged down, that's an inherently flawed system.

    Imagine Olympic Sprinter Usain Bolt won 11 gold medals, but lost one race, but the system said "Well little Timmy here has won all 12 gold medals in his school sports day events, so he's definitely ranked higher than Mr Usain Bolt. So here Timmy, you get 20 million bucks. Mr Usain, you get nothing, but have a gold star for trying". That system is just bad, they're not in the same league. Timmy is no way better than Usain, and in a head to head they would get destroyed. Now with the fix that's been applied, we can see Timmy and Usain race, and proper rankings will occur.
    Equal as in equal. The Matches everyone was being placed in were within range of what they were working with. If people can't win their own fair Matches, they have no room to complain about skill. Forget about the Rewards. If the Matches were fair and they weren't winning, then they can't blame it on not being able to win agaisnt Allies that wouldn't be capable in an unfair Match. It's called being a sore loser.
  • QuikPikQuikPik Member Posts: 829 ★★★★
    @DNA3000 it was me that tried to pretend to be you with prestige based match making analysis. Apparently not everyone believes in science and numbers.

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/1290631#Comment_1290631
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,242 ★★★★★
    Let's not forget what triggered all of this. A certain Alliance who shall remain unnamed, were winning all of their Wars (by questionable practices "allegedly"), and threatened to take out a lower Alliance with a patsy Ally because they thought it was their right to do so. Then they switched it mid-Season last Season, but rather than make it a more fair transition, here we are with the same problem and a heads up. It's exactly like I said. No one can benefit from War but the top because they think they own the Board. Simple as that.
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