Alliance Quest Feedback [Merged Threads]

Map 7 requires way more planning and rankups than people are willing to do atm. Plus donations are pretty high compared to Map 6.

2 2% t5c crystals are not remotely worth stretching yourself thin over. That's 2 random class crystals between 6 classes. 150 weeks to form one of each cat if everything was even (which I know it's not). Think of where the game will be in 3 years...

You not going to stay "relevant" with that when basically everyone running them is doing it on map 7

Carmel1

You’re not wrong, but hungry person will fight for crumbs if this is all he can eat.

Getting the highest tier of rewards in a game requires more effort? Craziness

I think the SSD change will help as it basically makes it a nothing node now. Outside of a few paths it wasn't incredibly difficult to manage to begin with though. Adding the counterstrike global at some point definitely changes that a bit but with the current proposed changes basically most of the epic modifiers will wind up even easier than some of the master ones. Not sure why people are still even talking about them honestly

Do you read what you write? Or does it just come out without a filter? You're telling a Map 6 alliance who doesn't have interest in ranking up specific champs to do Map 7. And then telling that we don't want to put in effort. That's literally what I said. That we don't want the extra work. It's not about rewards. It's about staying where we are. Read the convo first.

G2DK

Does anyone know if OG Iron Man Regens at the start of a fight if he’s below 15% ?

I usually time out on HB around 2% to get the Corvus charges for buffed up In section 2.

Run477

Not to my knowledge. He never used to

G2DK

He has arc overload and regens when dropped below 15%. Just not sure if it will proc if he starts below that.

It's no different than when map 7 was added and people got mad they couldn't do the same they've always done and maintain their ranks. If they give the option to increase points gained and you choose to not take it, you don't have some grandfathered claim to that ranking just bc that's what you did last week or last month. You either adapt or drop.

Again completely missing the point. Read the conversation. Someone was asked why Map 6 alliances are doing Epic Modifiers. So I replied that it was to keep up with other Map 6 alliances that started to run them so that rank wasn't lost. I'm not sure what you're trying to bring in here. You just started with Map 7 and talking about putting in effort without reading previous posts.

And if those modifiers are too hard for you, don't run them. This isn't terribly complicated

You have tons of combinations of maps and modifiers to attain whatever rank you want. If you decide your not willing to do that to maintain a ranking then that's on you

danielmath

Once the changes are made, the epic mods will be easier then the old ones by a considerable margin. We’re running the power one today and my bg has used 6 items. Day 1 with F4.....different story 😬

Didn't say a word about modifiers. Better reply to someone who complained about them than me.
Also, a valid point was made no matter what you say. Void with 300% attack and Cascading Failure is a stupid fight. If Kabam is willing to cater to Map 7 fights that have specific counters, then doing so for Map 6 as well isn't a stretch. Noone is asking for the entire Map to be remade.
No idea why you have this sense of entitlement, but whatever. Whenever something you find is easy, people are supposed to feel the same.

Heavy spam him with Nick, you'll practically never have a debuff on you

I mean that's what I spoke about specific counters. Not sure what your point is here. Yes we know that certain champs can do it. But the entire point of communication with Kabam is too see if they're willing to make changes. If not, then we have to figure it out and move on. That's literally the entire point of communication.
I don't see why you have an issue everytime someone raises a problem that they feel can be changed. Be it fight wise or node. Feedback exists for a reason. It was literally one post in a thread about modifiers that you decided to focus on since it isn't an issue for you.

Then this thread shouldn't exist at all. If people aren't willing to throw all their items to a node that was broken on certain lanes, then they shouldn't run it. Nice logic.

You don't think it's a realistic expectation to have 3 out of 30 people to have a champ ranked up to counter something? That's the problem I have. Yes I have an issue when people want to complete something and then just say no I'm not doing that or no I shouldn't be expected to do that. The whole point of the game is building a roster to get through content whether that be story, AQ, AW, EQ, or whatever. If you get presented a problem in an alliance event then someone has to be able to counter it.

You don't have to throw items at anything. If something is too difficult and you don't have the needed options to counter it, step back and do something easier.

Markjv81

It has to be done, otherwise you actually get less rewards, this was my argument when modifiers were orginally introduced.

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Markjv81

You absolutely do get less rewards in some scenarios, before modifiers were introduced we were 6x5 top 250, the first week they were introduced we didn’t run any and placed outside the top 250. So we were doing the exact same map, with the same difficulty but hit less rewards.

The fact is if you don’t do them others will and you’ll drop ranks and potentially rewards.

If kabam didn’t want maps other than 6 or 7 to run them then they should only be limited to those maps.

LilMaddogHT

@Kabam Miike appreciate the tuning that is being done. Not here to complain about the modifiers, I think some tuning is needed and you guys have seen that and are trying to address it but I do have concerns about your recent statement above as it totally contradicts the announcement message of these new Epic modifiers...

I’m in a top 90 alliance, we run a mix of map 6 & map 7. We saw this first week as an opportunity to try out these new Epic modifiers with our normal map routine (some map 6 & 7). It gets us more points, higher point milestones and higher honor milestones. Some may argue if it’s worth it or not for the rewards but every alliance is different in their goals. After trying, we would then evaluate how we would use these Epic modifiers for our long term AQ plan.

So to go and say these are now only meant for Top 10 alliances? While I know how prestige works and relates to AQ points (I created to AQ estimator calculator), who is to say where you truly are at if you don’t attempt it?

So while the original announcement brings some excitement to try and bring something fresh to AQ to make it different and more challenging, now we are being given the excuse that it was never meant for the summoners outside of the top 300?! That attitude is like saying “It’s too hard for you because you won’t spend enough, because you don’t have enough viable counters at 6* R3 or 5* 5/65, etc...”

We went in knowing there would be some learning curves and more difficult and while we have been successful in getting Doom down so far in all battle groups each day, the cost (not solely items but time spent - so much time spent...) compared to prior AQs is quite flabbergasting. This experience is mainly tied to the So Sayeth Doom modifier. Cascading Failure & Power to Cower have been challenging yet manageable. We suspect the other 2 modifiers Parry Curse and Turning the Tide, also be more challenging but yet manageable.

Modifiers are built to be used by anyone on any map to challenge their Alliance for whatever map they are ready for. That is why the points scale across ALL maps. Strategies can be adjusted to conquer but you have to try to experience it first.

If this was truly meant for top 10 alliances and only Map7, don’t even let it be an option and don’t allocate points and rewards to it on lower maps. But I don’t think that is truly the case.

TheTalents

I would still like to know when the Epic modifier nerf will take place. Can someone respond or did I miss something?

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Markjv81

I said before modifiers were introduced meaning originally not epic modifiers.

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