15.0 Alliance Wars Update Discussion Thread

Summoners!

Our 15.0 Update is just about a week away, and with it, it's bringing a huge change to Alliance Wars! Check out everything you need to know about the Brand New Map, Scoring Changes, and new boosts in the Loyalty Store here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/17902/15-0-alliance-wars-update/

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Rajhp

Not playing current war because
Even if we do 100% with diversity we cant win because of hero rating.
As always opponent alliance is over powered which sucks with new war systems.
SO IMPROVE SCORING AND LINKED NODE SYSTEM..

RagamugginGunner

Anyone else having strike back delaying the power gain?

Phao

If we lose this AW because of you stupid scoring system, I'll be really pissed off. No defenders and no boss placed. We have placed everything and we will not score anything but exploration points. This just plain stupid of you, Kabam, get you **** together...

1haunted_memory

sounds like a rant, rants are not allowed on forum so I have been told/warned

Rajhp

Not playing current war because Even if we do 100 % with diversity we cant win because of the hero rating.

bdawg923

So bad. They need to up the difficulty and remove this diversity bs. Tier 2 feels like tier 18 now

EL_Rojo44

Very very frustrating... 100% with 3 boss kills.. then lose because you placed 3 more duped champs than they did... Only Kabam can screw up something that wasnt broken.. i`m all for the new map but why change the nodes and scoring system?

King_turd123

1haunted_memory wrote: »

sounds like a rant, rants are not allowed on forum so I have been told/warned

Nope it's definitely feedback (of the valued variery, that's their favorite! )

Vdh2008

Phao wrote: »

If we lose this AW because of you stupid scoring system, I'll be really pissed off. No defenders and no boss placed. We have placed everything and we will not score anything but exploration points. This just plain stupid of you, Kabam, get you **** together...

That looks like just a shell, you should be fine to win that one.

Micklownick

1haunted_memory wrote: »

sounds like a rant, rants are not allowed on forum so I have been told/warned

Only allowed to do the corporate complaint....two good things before one bad thing....

So if I may...Kabam I think your doing quality work on some different things that elude me right now, but I appreciate that the game isn't in emergency maintenance at the moment so kudos on that, but you know when you completely changed everything about war?

It's probably the worst thing you have done since you told Jackie in accounting she had a great rack at the Christmas party.

Let the warnings commence....

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Greywarden

Phao wrote: »

If we lose this AW because of you stupid scoring system, I'll be really pissed off. No defenders and no boss placed. We have placed everything and we will not score anything but exploration points. This just plain stupid of you, Kabam, get you **** together...

They have 5 people....I'd be angry if they somehow won but they obviously can't win.....

Unless your alliance gets hit by a meteor enjoy the easy win.

R4GE

If you lose that AW, you deserve it.

DD2

chunkyb wrote: »

The only two acceptable fixes are scrapping diversity or passing out rank downs

The ONLY acceptable fix is removing defender diversity.

Giving rank down tickets doesn't do anything. In the long run, you get screwed 10x over even with a rank down tickets.

Kpatrix

Phao wrote: »

If we lose this AW because of you stupid scoring system, I'll be really pissed off. No defenders and no boss placed. We have placed everything and we will not score anything but exploration points. This just plain stupid of you, Kabam, get you **** together...

There is no way you could lose that war unless you don't move enough to get the required exploration percentage. You are facing a shell alliance who are intentionally losing to drop tiers.

Even during the first week of this new system, you couldn't have lost, the zero defender stategy require 100% exploration. All you need to do now is run the map with a 1* and use your energy up. Boring as hell but impossible to lose, so just enjoy your free shards.

Voluntaris

theblueman wrote: »

Guys haven't you figured it out yet? It all about the $$$, pure and simple..no defender kills assures that..just do like our alliance does, stick to aq..rewards are better anyway

not really ... we just 100%'d all 3 BG's in which opponents had 4/55 duped Dorm's as bosses ... with no item use.

Kabam Zibiit

Hey folks, thanks for the continued feedback! Just a quick reminder to keep it constructive and, if you haven't had the chance to read our latest statement from last night, you can check out @Kabam Miike's post here.

DD2

Kabam Zibiit wrote: »

Hey folks, thanks for the continued feedback! Just a quick reminder to keep it constructive and, if you haven't had the chance to read our latest statement from last night, you can check out @Kabam Miike's post here.

It's REALLY hard to trust Kabam's judgement these days. It literally takes a minute to realize the problems with the new scoring system. How the heck was this ever approved and implemented? Either Kabam management is clueless (NOT the case), or you're not taking the health of this game seriously at all.

It literally takes 2 seconds to hash out the new system's weaknesses. How could this ever have gotten off the ground? We don't trust that you guys will make this game better. Month after month it keeps getting worse and worse.

No one likes 6*s either, but it seems like you will cram that down our throats as well.

Juggerneyks

i was completely fine fighting majik on boss nodes before, but now with that increased regen boss node, majik with md becomes way more annoying if you dont have a heal block or power lock champ to counter. Like she regen 15k on me in 1 limbo ( i wasnt paying attention and attacked her during limbo) that a hell of alot of regen power

Heywood

Juggerneyks wrote: »

i was completely fine fighting majik on boss nodes before, but now with that increased regen boss node, majik with md becomes way more annoying if you dont have a heal block or power lock champ to counter. Like she regen 15k on me in 1 limbo ( i wasnt paying attention and attacked her during limbo) that a hell of alot of regen power

Of all of the complaints I have seen about the new war, this is the first I have seen of it being too difficult.
If you see Magik on that node, you need to have someone who has the right champ fight her.

Heywood

@Kabam Miike Is there any update on when the diversity system will be across all BG's instead of by each individual BG?

borntohula

Wonderful experience. 115 defender kills versus 45. And lose.

H3llbat

The new pts system TOTALLY SUCKS !!! NO MORE REASON FOR WAR. negative review for the game for now on

LocoMotives

Just lost a war because two guys placed D in a rush and duplicated defenders. We led by 60+ d kills, not that that matters anymore. This was a top 100 war, skill has no place in this game mode anymore. Bafflingly stupid system, makes me question continuing to play.

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King_turd123

addisonbassist wrote: »

Kabam Zibiit wrote: »

Hey folks, thanks for the continued feedback! Just a quick reminder to keep it constructive and, if you haven't had the chance to read our latest statement from last night, you can check out @Kabam Miike's post here.

Sorry, but Miike's statement literally contains ZERO substantial or useful information of any kind... so I'm not sure why you would reference it as if it has any value to us whatsoever.

What miikes most recent statement does is tell us there are things he hasn't and will not tell us at this time.

I'm dead serious, what was the point of this?

Edit- I just read it again. It begins with "we have made changes" and ends with "will update you as we make progress".
Okay, so what changed? Or was a change, but not deemed as progress, and therefore excluded from the we will update with progress clause?

You guys are coming apart at the seams. Got quests with infinite rewards, then a rash of server outages, a vast 5* punisher conspiracy, then flood the game with cursed gold, got vision power burning himself to death, I fear for you all.

Mcord11758

borntohula wrote: »

Wonderful experience. 115 defender kills versus 45. And lose.

But that diversity bro. Diversity

WOK

I agree with most comments in regards to the updated AW being less than "favorable and entertaining". Just one of the many reason I regretfully said farewell to my alliance and discontinued playing.

When the announcement was initially made about the "big changes" coming with version 15.0 and other news, I along with my entire alliance was sparked with renewed interest and excited anticipation of something great. Personally, other than the possibly new map(when I look at it as whole and not by sections when we are "on the map", keeps reminding me of an AQ or quest map Ive seen before with just some sections cut out) everything else was a complete and utter letdown.

From the obvious inconsistencies with the points scoring, the inconsistencies of announcements made by Moderators regarding the the specifics of how diversity was to be tallied up, the fact that for our 1st war post update I had to advise my alliance to just place 3*'s if their rosters would duplicate someone elses placed before them, the glitch of billion gold rewards for skirmish and lockout of arenas.......I will end the list of reasons here because its beginning to depress me once again.

I am what you could consider a 1st time player of online gaming, or more coloquially "noob". With that said, in truth I dont have previous gameplay of other apps to compare.

I must however add, that even if in fact what has been painfully prevelant this year with issues and whatnots is considered to be "normal or avg" for this type of platform, I would still find it very difficult to understand how this could be. With all the talk about the development team discussing this or that, the Moderators taking new information from the community regarding this or that, the assertion of beta testers finding this or that and fixes made......

Are we in a new "age" now that the oldschool general "rule of thumb" for any business or service provider is to implement high standard QC into their products and services considered a thing of the past?

Because again I find it difficult to understand or believe that the previously mentioned issues and inconsistencies are in reality, not such and worked as intended. Along with the possibilties of alliances winning an AW match without placing a defender also designed to be that way.

Lastly, If we were in the month of April, I would have chalked it up as a fools joke when the news was given that diversity will be taken into consideration for the entire alliance and not seperated by BG to later find out to the contrary.

Something unmistakably positive needs to be done, and soon I would hope.

NinjaWarrior99

Please fix AW.

Ebbtide

Draco2199 wrote: »

Ebbtide wrote: »

Immunity Boost is rejecting Power Drains. Immunity ignores debuffs, but Power Drain is not a Debuff. Is this intentional?

Power drain has never been a debuff its a passive effect

That's exactly my point though. In Alliance War, my Hawkeye was not Power Draining an Immune Mini Boss with his Special 1. It's impossible to beat a Magik on that node then, as there is no way to combat her Limbo if there is no way to limit or drain her special meter.